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The Long Game: Learning with Longerstretch, Key Principles to Make Sustained Growth

Originally Posted by Patrik_16
I didn’t say heat that heat isn’t good I say that 4-5% difference between pre and post BPFSL is hard to get even with US over time. If you use conventional heat you wont reach 40+ temperature inside your penis and then there is not the same big advantage with heat or no heat. It probably is better than no heat at all but don’t expect +3% difference between pre and post BPFSL.

Alright, so you’re saying the problem is the heat source and not necessarily the vacuum hanging which hinders a big stress load.
I found the theory and this thread via Madyogi’s progress report on PEGym

And he didn’t write about US warm up and still reached 4% stress regularly.
That is why my opinion was that you don’t need US to reach this kind of fatigue.


[before PE] Start BPFSL: 17.6cm start BPEL: 16.7cm

[currently on Period 2] latest BFPSL: 19.7cm latest BPEL: 18.5cm

Click here to see my amazing progress report (always updated!Kyrpa's methodology) ;-)


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Originally Posted by CBateman
Alright, so you’re saying the problem is the heat source and not necessarily the vacuum hanging which hinders a big stress load.
I found the theory and this thread via Madyogi’s progress report on PEGym:

And he didn’t write about US warm up and still reached 4% stress regularly.
That is why my opinion was that you don’t need US to reach this kind of fatigue.


He must be a genetic freak when it comes to PE and you can’t compare yourself with a guy claiming to gain almost 5 cm BPEL in 9 months witch include a 2 months deacon. So he claims 5 cm gain in 7 months….don’t believe everything you read on internet man. I guess he has valid before and after pictures to😂 Most people that even gain 5 cm in BPEL need 10 years or more to do it.


190416 Bpel 16,5 Bpfsl 16,5 Meg 14,2 Beg 15,0

210312 Bpel 19 Bpfsl 19,6 Meg 14,5 Beg 15,3

___Gain Bpel +2,5 Bpfsl +3,1 Meg +0,3 Beg +0,3


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Super helpful thread, longerstretch. Because science.


Started: BPEL 6.5", EG 4.5"

Current: BPEL 7.0", EG 5.0"

Goal: BPEL 7.5", EG 5.5"

Man, this is such an amazing thread, it earned a bookmark from me.

I’m very happy that I’m seeing this early on in my PE career. It will likely save me a lot of time, possibly years, as well as quickening my progress.

This was very in-depth and I will apply everything you posted here.

Much respect G.

Originally Posted by elitestreet
Man, this is such an amazing thread, it earned a bookmark from me.

I’m very happy that I’m seeing this early on in my PE career. It will likely save me a lot of time, possibly years, as well as quickening my progress.

This was very in-depth and I will apply everything you posted here.

Much respect G.

Stay tuned to all the updated US threads my friend. Very exciting science going on.


06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 08/07/2020 BPFSL: 23cm (9.05") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm)

P.S.: Original start of PE is Circa 1998AD. Aprox size was BPEL: 17.78cm (7") EG: 12.44cm (4.9")

Great read. Not sure I missed this till now. Thanks.

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Firstly. Tune it down. Immediately. And don’t go above 2.0w/cm^2 before you master the technique. You are taking health risks when trying to compensate poor handling with upping the intensity.
It can cause you damage. Don`t do it.

How long is your heating session?
Do you use a lot of conductive gel?

Krypa do you feel that a single 1Hz machine is plenty for good heating these days or are you still using two? Sorry if I missed an update where you’ve clarified this.

I really wanted to use a better source of heating but I can’t now, a gel heating pad Is all I have now, stress relaxation technique is just as important as the rest if not more for someone that can’t really use heat, the relaxation technique will carry them long run, unfortunately my dick doesnt like to be stretched flacid, it just contracts, so I can’t really measure BPFSL, maybe after a routine.

I have already read the thread a lot but never said a word of appreciation for the knowledge given to me so early in my JOURNEY that will help me in the long run forever and make me avoid big plateaus or at least soon, thx.

Yea awesome thread , it’s given me a lot to think about I started manual stretches , jelqing months ago then stopped , but for the last 2 months I’m more determined to see this through so I made a home made ADS it was a pretty brutal prototype my dick felt and looked like mike Tyson had used it as a punching bag however I kept tweeking the setup in the end I had a similar concept to the phallosan around my wast but it kept getting pretty painful around the base as the ring that kept it all tight has pressure there too , my hours ranged from 2.5 to 6 being a big day however I couldn’t believe it actually worked I gained around 8 mm bpsfl over those couple of months , anyway as mentioned it was still pretty uncomfortable so I thought I’d wrap a belt a round my calf just below the knee and bingo soo much more comfortable and for the first tome I can do 6 hours without to much hassle it also gives a far better stretch especially walking like I do as the stretch is on off with every stride , as I do quite a lot of bush walks , fishing etc all the while wearing this ADS my dick appears to be reacting really positively it gets quite hot and I think more fatigued than the previous around the waist system, also I am a big fan of hoping in the spa 39.5 degrees and stretching I try & do that every day & finish with 30 jelqs , so today I pulled out my measuring stick and was stunned to see bpsfl I’d gained another 4 or 5 mm within the space of the last week , however as happy as I am with the results after reading this awesome post I can’t but help wonder if I could be pushing it as my ADS does have a fare bit of tension on it and 6 hours a day is a lot longer than the recommended 1 hour by longerstretch , I’m now thinking I mite back off a bit and focus on spa and cool down times , measure each day before and after to see if I’m spending to much time wearing the ADS.

Thanks for the awesome post iv added it to my favourites .

So .side note from the above post I just re measured to actually record my win !! But bugger me it’s gone or more than halved anyway , when I first measured I’d just taken the ADS off that was hours ago and now I’m nearly back to where I was .. Oh well tomorrow’s another day & I’m positive this system is working.

Can someone spell out explicitly what “cyclic stretching” is in plain English? I’ve searched around, and I can make some educated guesses as to what that precisely means; however, I’d appreciate it if someone could just explain in explicit detail what it is and how it differs from regular manual stretching.

Also, what is the consensus with jelqing after the US heated stretching? Are there any benefits? Potential girth gains? Or is it unnecessary?

Originally Posted by gjw965
Can someone spell out explicitly what “cyclic stretching” is in plain English? I’ve searched around, and I can make some educated guesses as to what that precisely means; however, I’d appreciate it if someone could just explain in explicit detail what it is and how it differs from regular manual stretching.

Also, what is the consensus with jelqing after the US heated stretching? Are there any benefits? Potential girth gains? Or is it unnecessary?

Repetitive stretching, produced in cyclical fashion. Having the work and rest phases equally emphasized.
On the stretch phase emphasizing on building up the load smoothly into the stretch. The duration of the phases being relatively short.
If your manual stretching is manoeuvred like this, then there is no difference.

Jelqing can and will benefit both BPEL and girth development.
The downside being the penis being relatively hesitant to be co-operative after the US for jelqing.
Secondly user ending very easily to overtraining and having downfall on EQ.

Done separately at different time in conjunction with the US protocol might be safer option.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

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