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Originally Posted by sithvicious
I think I’m doing something wrong. The US doesn’t seem to do much at a setting below 2.5 w/cm^2, and up to 3.5 all it does is transiently warm up the area right under the transducer head. Even though it’s a 1mHz machine, I can’t feel any warmth on the other side of the shaft, just right under the transducer. And the moment I move to another area it cools right down. Can’t stop and focus on one area because at 3.5 it feels uncomfortably hot if I hold it static.
But 5 seconds after stopping everything feels just as cool as normal.
Any tips?

Firstly. Tune it down. Immediately. And don’t go above 2.0w/cm^2 before you master the technique. You are taking health risks when trying to compensate poor handling with upping the intensity.
It can cause you damage. Don`t do it.

How long is your heating session?
Do you use a lot of conductive gel?


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)


Last edited by Kyrpa : 12-22-2019 at .

Originally Posted by sithvicious
I think I’m doing something wrong. The US doesn’t seem to do much at a setting below 2.5 w/cm^2, and up to 3.5 all it does is transiently warm up the area right under the transducer head. Even though it’s a 1mHz machine, I can’t feel any warmth on the other side of the shaft, just right under the transducer. And the moment I move to another area it cools right down. Can’t stop and focus on one area because at 3.5 it feels uncomfortably hot if I hold it static.
But 5 seconds after stopping everything feels just as cool as normal.
Any tips?

Here is some tips .

Sit in the chair. Use your hanger and hang OTL . Which means over the leg. The weight hanging down on your right or left depending which side you are hanging. Your penis against the skin of your leg.

Tune your machine to the 2.0 w/cm^2 intensity.

Use a lot of conductive gel .
Using a lot of conductive gel circulate the the transducer 5 minutes at the area of half of your penis constantly moving.
Using a lot of conductive gel circulate the the transducer 5 minutes at the area of other half of your penis constantly moving.

At this point you will be feeling the shaft is warming against the skin of your leg. Switch side and hang OTL over your other leg.
Using a lot of conductive gel repeat the procedure seen above for heating.
At the 15 minutes point you can feel the heat inside your penis being constant and you are able to move the transducer along the whole shaft without losing the warmth on the area you are not operating at the moment.
After total of 20 minutes turn the US off and continue with manual stretching for 10 minutes or hanging down or straight forward depending of your gear, with a greater load than used in heating phase.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by sithvicious

Any tips?

What are the setting options with the Pulse ratio of you machine if there is options.

I you are using some of the pulsed modes no wonder your heat is not building up.

100% duty or continuous mode is what you are looking for.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)


Last edited by Kyrpa : 12-22-2019 at .

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Firstly. Tune it down. Immediately. And don’t go above 2.0w/cm^2 before you master the technique.

Message received loud and clear! Will dial back down to 2.

Yes, I’m using continuous mode, and lots of conductive gel, reapplying more everytime it starts getting dry. Hanging straight out, though, from a pulley and not over the leg. Does that make a difference?

Also feel like the transducer head at 1.5 inches is a bit wider than my stretched out shaft - could that be a factor?

Though from reading your last response maybe I’m expecting it to warm up much faster than reasonable? Tried it through a 10 minute set before getting frustrated and moving on to my usual pumping. Will try again tomorrow for a much longer set.

Originally Posted by sithvicious
Message received loud and clear! Will dial back down to 2.

Yes, I’m using continuous mode, and lots of conductive gel, reapplying more everytime it starts getting dry. Hanging straight out, though, from a pulley and not over the leg. Does that make a difference?

Also feel like the transducer head at 1.5 inches is a bit wider than my stretched out shaft - could that be a factor?

Though from reading your last response maybe I’m expecting it to warm up much faster than reasonable? Tried it through a 10 minute set before getting frustrated and moving on to my usual pumping. Will try again tomorrow for a much longer set.


Read the tests run by me and Manko to find out the graphs which show that you will need some patience. Settle to sit down in the position your penis in firm skin contact all the way with your thigh while hanging SO then. This the best way to control the process by the feel.

Links are in my log only few posts ago.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Thank you for your patient and in-depth responses! Will do this.

Kyrpa, hope you don’t mind my linking your other thread for anyone else following along over here? Or else, maybe an admin can delete this?

Gaining volume with Kyrpa (p. 46)

Post #678 is gold.

Originally Posted by longerstretch
he previous 2 posts were from a guy that was brave enough to place a sterile thermometer up his urethra while he compared different forms of heat and recorded the heat up and cool down between the ultrasound and far infrared heat. This was both very brave and monumental to my understanding of heat and what would be the ideal form of heat. I’m done for now. I’ll welcome discussion. Read the studies and links posted, reflect and draw your own conclusions. I’ll post more info, next will probably be cyclical stretches (manual work or even cyclical hanging sets).

My current routine is a mirror copy of Kypra at another forum with my own spin. After reading similar threads and drawing similar conclusions our routines were similar, though he started this line of thinking before me. We both continued to tweak it and I noticed I started getting better results when I left my cyclical stretches in and followed more in line with his reasoning and was able to drop my workload and time commitment with the same results if not better, because again using BPSFL as a roadmap. Now my routine is right at an hour, takes about an hour and 20 min to fully complete. I do 1-2 on with 1-2 off depending on schedule. My ideal would be 2-3 on and 1 day off. I’m a nurse so schedule is crazy. These numbers don’t have to be set in stone.

Current Routine
30 min extender using stress relaxation every 5 min, increasing tension slightly every 5 min
20 min hanging with heat, I do fulcrum hanging with ultrasound heat
10 min cyclical stretches (15 second build up into stretch , 15 second max tension, 15 seconds rest)

Other routines will work as well but try to start incorporating these principles. Take a look at my log starting on page 50 for recent breakthroughs. (This is my MOS log, though I’ve been updating my log here with recent updates starting in June of 2019)

I bought an LG Hanger to hang while using US like you have but now realize that it won’t work because the silicone sleeve needs to run up quite a bit of the length of the shaft.

Could you say what kind of hanger you are able to us with US? Sorry if you already listed this information somewhere else.

Love this thread, thinking of getting a good US within the $100 or $150 range, any suggestions guys?

Originally Posted by sentii
I bought an LG Hanger to hang while using US like you have but now realize that it won’t work because the silicone sleeve needs to run up quite a bit of the length of the shaft.

Could you say what kind of hanger you are able to us with US? Sorry if you already listed this information somewhere else.

Interested as well, would love to see a picture of US heated hanging setup

This is one of the craziest threads I have ever read ( in a positive way!).
You guys are so logical and scientific in your thinking, I’m amazed.
I only use an LG Hanger, 1h in the morning , 1h in the evening.
My questions:
1) If I buy an ultrasound device, I have to actively use the head of the system and go up and down on my penis while hanging to warm the whole cock, right?
This is too strenous for me if correct
2) Alternatively, what if I set up a infrared lamp and heat my penis passively while hanging? or use a heating pad around the penis? Would this work?
3) Do I understand it correctly that if the heat works, I should see a bigger past workout BPFSL than if I just hang without the heating?
And: when should I measure the pre workout BPFSL? Before warming up with my heating lamp or completely cold?

All the best! :-)


[before PE] Start BPFSL: 17.6cm start BPEL: 16.7cm

[currently on Period 2] latest BFPSL: 19.7cm latest BPEL: 18.5cm

Click here to see my amazing progress report (always updated!Kyrpa's methodology) ;-)


Last edited by CBateman : 12-05-2020 at .

well, I cannot edit my post.

So here is another question:

Today, I measured my BPFSL before warming up. Then, I hung for 1h while using the infrared lamp to keep my penis heated.

Afterwards, I measured again and calculated the stress.

Keep in mind I am just hanging (with the LG Hanger) for 4 days now, 1h in the morning and 1h in the evening and only 2.5 lbs. my stress was only about 1-1.3%.

Can I assume I simply have to increase the load to get enough stress after the hanging? Meaning, I have to increase the weight UNTIL I reach let’s say 4-5% of stress?

Or, if I needed e.g. 5lbs for 4% stress and I overdid it and hung 10 lbs, could it be my stress level is also little (below 1.5%) although I used TOO much weight?

It would be incredibly useful to know that.


[before PE] Start BPFSL: 17.6cm start BPEL: 16.7cm

[currently on Period 2] latest BFPSL: 19.7cm latest BPEL: 18.5cm

Click here to see my amazing progress report (always updated!Kyrpa's methodology) ;-)

Originally Posted by CBateman

well, I cannot edit my post.

So here is another question:

Today, I measured my BPFSL before warming up. Then, I hung for 1h while using the infrared lamp to keep my penis heated.

Afterwards, I measured again and calculated the stress.

Keep in mind I am just hanging (with the LG Hanger) for 4 days now, 1h in the morning and 1h in the evening and only 2.5 lbs. my stress was only about 1-1.3%.

Can I assume I simply have to increase the load to get enough stress after the hanging? Meaning, I have to increase the weight UNTIL I reach let’s say 4-5% of stress?

Or, if I needed e.g. 5lbs for 4% stress and I overdid it and hung 10 lbs, could it be my stress level is also little (below 1.5%) although I used TOO much weight?

It would be incredibly useful to know that.

You will not reach 4-5% with any heat and probably not even with US.

If you can get 2-3 mm in one session over time that will give you gains. But I think any heat might be better than no heat at all. One tip though, don’t get the chamber with your glans in it to hot because heat can trigger blisters to pop up.


190416 Bpel 16,5 Bpfsl 16,5 Meg 14,2 Beg 15,0

210312 Bpel 19 Bpfsl 19,6 Meg 14,5 Beg 15,3

___Gain Bpel +2,5 Bpfsl +3,1 Meg +0,3 Beg +0,3

Originally Posted by Patrik_16
You will not reach 4-5% with any heat and probably not even with US.
If you can get 2-3 mm in one session over time that will give you gains. But I think any heat might be better than no heat at all. One tip though, don’t get the chamber with your glans in it to hot because heat can trigger blisters to pop up.

Of course heat will help, the concept makes a lot of sense. Why do you think the stress is so little, Patrik?
It is hard for me to believe that . Especially because longerstretch is an experienced and successful lg Hanger user himself!
Please enlighten us, longerstretch :-D.
If you mean it is not achievable with the LG Hanger.
I mean, I can create nearly unlimited and very specific, measured force under heat ?!
But thanks a lot for the blister warning! That is kind :-)


[before PE] Start BPFSL: 17.6cm start BPEL: 16.7cm

[currently on Period 2] latest BFPSL: 19.7cm latest BPEL: 18.5cm

Click here to see my amazing progress report (always updated!Kyrpa's methodology) ;-)

Originally Posted by CBateman

Of course heat will help, the concept makes a lot of sense. Why do you think the stress is so little, Patrik?

It is hard for me to believe that . Especially because longerstretch is an experienced and successful lg Hanger user himself!

Please enlighten us, longerstretch :-D.

If you mean it is not achievable with the LG Hanger.

I mean, I can create nearly unlimited and very specific, measured force under heat ?!

But thanks a lot for the blister warning! That is kind :-)

I didn’t say heat that heat isn’t good I say that 4-5% difference between pre and post BPFSL is hard to get even with US over time. If you use conventional heat you wont reach 40+ temperature inside your penis and then there is not the same big advantage with heat or no heat. It probably is better than no heat at all but don’t expect +3% difference between pre and post BPFSL.


190416 Bpel 16,5 Bpfsl 16,5 Meg 14,2 Beg 15,0

210312 Bpel 19 Bpfsl 19,6 Meg 14,5 Beg 15,3

___Gain Bpel +2,5 Bpfsl +3,1 Meg +0,3 Beg +0,3

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