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Fahrenheit users core temp = 98.6

105.8=10mins

107,6=3mins

109.4=50sec

111.2=20sec

113=10sec

114.8=9sec

116.6=6sec

118.4=4sec

120.2=3sec

122=2sec

123.8=1sec

125.6=1sec


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Has anyone observed a pattern in how BPEL grows relative to BPFSL? For example, do they find the relationship is 1:1 but with a one month lag, or something like that?

Originally Posted by Swole Straw
Temperature and application is going to be very vital here extremely vital in fact, like seriously a developed technique has to be applied, cells plaster at around 41.5 degrees, if your member goes 8 degrees over your core body temperature its over if you go over 10 seconds of application, cells and nerves start dieing, and by intervals of contact. That’s not even factoring factory faults in equipment, frequency, resonance, area of contact, immune system responses, types of collogen, the bright side is if you can maintain that 4 degree change its actually quite healthy and at 8min applications here is a application chart

Degree change 4 = 10min application
Degree change 5 = 3min
6=50sec
7=20sec
8=10sec
9=9sec
10=6sec
11=4sec
12=3sec
13=2sec
14=1sec
15=1sec

Anything over the application to degree Celsius ratio to core tempreture example, core tempreture is 37 degrees Celsius plus 6 degrees Celsius will yield a 50sec application anything over this will start cellular degregation

Iv cited from https://onlinel ibrary.wiley.co … m.2008.27.4.517

Hi Swole Straw,

Thank you for chiming in with the information. Appreciated contribution.

Reading the study linked and seeing similar papers before it is, if not safe to use US but at least we dare to say we are operating in the limits stated there.
Exposure time limitations you posted are easily maintained with the self cooling nature of the human penis.

We have run several tests measuring the urethral temperature as a guidance for the developing both efficiency and with a growing interests the safety as well.
Results seem to that we can reach mean temperature greater than 40° C peak temperatures being up to 44° C.
Resting penile core temperature both me and Manko007 have measured to be low, measured from the urethra it varies between 32,5° to 34.5° C.
I have been aiming the mean temperature of 41.5° C but failed to achieve it. With clamped penis failed to achieve more than 38° C mean temperature in the given 10 to 12 minutes clamping set duration.

It takes time to reach the +40° C temperatures up to 8-10 minutes with 1.6w/cm^2 1 MHz application. The temperature will stabilize at the 40-41° C range the mean temperature not rising any further after achieving it .

The study linked and your posted application chart for safe use fits in to our results.
Peak temperatures reached during tests drop down significantly once the transducer is moved. The drop at the temperatures above 40° C have been repeatedly shown to be in the range of
0,5 to 1° C in 10 seconds. Using the chart you provided that would mean if we accidentally reach temporary peak temperature of 44° C once the transducer is constantly moving it drops down to 40° C in the safety limits. What we have here is a natural safety features build in our manly units both resisting the temperature rise at certain threshold and the ability to cool down significantly at such a short time. But we can not rely on it we need to know the limitations and the application should be always used cautiously.

The main safety advises added with the info you provided:

- Transducer should be constantly moving.
- Circulate the transducer head around the spot for maximum of 10 seconds and move outside the area just treated.
- Not to visit same spot with the transducer head area in 10 to 15 seconds to allow the possible excessive temporary peak temperature drop down.
- Not to use more than 2.0w/ cm^2 intensities with the knowledge available at this point
- Total of 20 minutes application can be considered to be safe as the build up to + 40° C takes time up to 10 minutes which after the application time comes safety issue.*
It is likely user can´t keep the mean temperature up in the whole unit not using the temperature indicator.
* needs further clarification due more test runs with different intensities and frequencies.

Here are included test runs with the monitored urethral temperature published to date.
To be noted Mankos results are achieved with a single measuring spot using the transducer circulating at the same area.
Tests run by me are done with two measuring spots inside the urethra circulating the transducer for the whole shaft area of the penis.

Ultrasound for penile therapeutic temperatures

Ultrasound heating for penile therapeutic temperature part 2

US warmup and cooldown charts and data table


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)


Last edited by Kyrpa : 12-19-2019 at .

Originally Posted by sentii
Has anyone observed a pattern in how BPEL grows relative to BPFSL? For example, do they find the relationship is 1:1 but with a one month lag, or something like that?

No they don´t follow 1:1 at such a short time. Eventually they may.
There are lots of threads about this dilemma. There seems to be certain difference between which triggers the BPEL to follow the BPFSL lead.
What seems to be clear that once the difference starts to develop enough the BPEL gains follow with a short delay (days to weeks) and with the individual rate.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Kyrpa!
I wrote down my BPFSL pre and post my stretching routine.
9/12 18,7 19,3 3,2%
10/12 18,8 19,3 2,7%
12/12 19,1 19,3 1%
13/12 19,1 19,3 1%
15/12 19,2 19,4 1% Only pumping 2x15
16/12 19,2 19,4 1%
17/12 18,9 19,4 2,6%

As you can see my pre BPFSL differs allot compare to post BPFSL. And that affect the % strain as you can see. The reason for this is most likely different starting temperature of the penis. Last night I deliberately get cold going around my house with not much clothes on. I felt a little bit cold an as you know when you do the penis gets smaller and less flexible. I measured my BPFSL to 18,8 cm. Then I took my heated ricepad to get my dick warm again and after around 5 minutes i measured again. This time BPFSL was 19,3 cm.
And there was no stretching done only heat.
So my conclusion is that one should measure BPFSL after warm up.


190416 Bpel 16,5 Bpfsl 16,5 Meg 14,2 Beg 15,0

210312 Bpel 19 Bpfsl 19,6 Meg 14,5 Beg 15,3

___Gain Bpel +2,5 Bpfsl +3,1 Meg +0,3 Beg +0,3

Originally Posted by Patrik_16
Kyrpa!
I wrote down my BPFSL pre and post my stretching routine.
9/12 18,7 19,3 3,2%
10/12 18,8 19,3 2,7%
12/12 19,1 19,3 1%
13/12 19,1 19,3 1%
15/12 19,2 19,4 1% Only pumping 2x15
16/12 19,2 19,4 1%
17/12 18,9 19,4 2,6%

As you can see my pre BPFSL differs allot compare to post BPFSL. And that affect the % strain as you can see. The reason for this is most likely different starting temperature of the penis. Last night I deliberately get cold going around my house with not much clothes on. I felt a little bit cold an as you know when you do the penis gets smaller and less flexible. I measured my BPFSL to 18,8 cm. Then I took my heated ricepad to get my dick warm again and after around 5 minutes i measured again. This time BPFSL was 19,3 cm.
And there was no stretching done only heat.
So my conclusion is that one should measure BPFSL after warm up.

When I did the series of load strain curve measurements I did stabilize the pre-BPFSL measurement by using 0.6 kg extender for 10 minutes before measuring.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa

When I did the series of load strain curve measurements I did stabilize the pre-BPFSL measurement by using 0.6 kg extender for 10 minutes before measuring.

Yes, that is one way to do it.

I can now see that I’m not near 3% and definitely could use some more heat.


190416 Bpel 16,5 Bpfsl 16,5 Meg 14,2 Beg 15,0

210312 Bpel 19 Bpfsl 19,6 Meg 14,5 Beg 15,3

___Gain Bpel +2,5 Bpfsl +3,1 Meg +0,3 Beg +0,3

What depth of tissue penetration are you trying to achieve? Where abouts or what part in the penis.


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Originally Posted by Swole Straw
What depth of tissue penetration are you trying to achieve? Where abouts or what part in the penis.

There is not much to choose for the penetration depth with the thin piece of meat and the devices available. Using 3MHz and 1 MHz machines the depth is pretty much the whole shaft.
The 1MHz is heating best the opposite side to introducing site. So for instance applying ventrally the heat is building faster at the upper triangular formation of the septum and dorsal thickening of the tunica.
This of course includes the package of dorsal veins and nerves as well. 3MHz users are feeling more centered heat build up regardless of the introducing site.

Newest iteration is to use 1-2 cm thick ultrasound gelpads for adjusting the penetration depth. Other solution for adjusting the depth is to use ultrasound underwater if the transducer is waterproof.

We are mostly concentrating for the pendulous parts of the penis tunica, dorsal or ventral thickenings, septum. If the transducer is applied at the cruras the beam should be aimed side angles not to penetrate towards prostate.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

What module US do you have? I only ask because of wide range low range frequencies, I suppose the area of the gel pads effect range but more importantly I wanna know what transistors and how theyre wired are on the board.

Also Is it nessessary that it have to be ultrasound?


Bpel start 14.25cm

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SwoleStraw.,

My question to you regards your understanding on frequencies.

I am interested in low frequencies, long -wave applications for promoting healing and growth processes.
Low frequencies not very effective on thermal applications but really interesting because of the non-thermal capabilities.

So if I was to install 45KHz or similar transducer on the top of the water pumping cylinder how deep it would penetrate. Does it cover the whole shaft?


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Swole Straw
What module US do you have? I only ask because of wide range low range frequencies, I suppose the area of the gel pads effect range but more importantly I wanna know what transistors and how theyre wired are on the board.

Also Is it nessessary that it have to be ultrasound?

I can open my US Pro2000 2nd edition machine to investigate the electronics if you like.
I have already done that once. I took the thermocouple out side of the transducer head as it kepth cutting the output due the applcator head heating over 42C. Once it overheats it takes until the temp is below 40 to work again.

I have my interests as well because I know the frequencies should be tuned as we like in the range of 0.8 - 4 MHz to be perfect solution.

Infrared applications does not penetrate deep enough to effect septum. Also they have failed to produce above 40C urethral temperatures.
And they burn the skin. Ultrasound doen´t.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)


Last edited by Kyrpa : 12-19-2019 at .

Alright I’m out. Sound waves travel 4 times faster in water, keep that in mind before you cause micro implosions.

A pretty cool radar is the answer.


Bpel start 14.25cm

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Originally Posted by Swole Straw
Alright I’m out. Sound waves travel 4 times faster in water, keep that in mind before you cause micro implosions.

A pretty cool radar is the answer.

I am not going to go destructional in any case. There can be gel pad between as well.
They have 45 Khz solutions in use already thats why I asked.

Also it is a common practise in physical therapy to use 1MHz and 3MHz applications under water treating hands and feet etc.

But I asked and you did not answer the penetration depth aspect :) .


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
But I asked and you did not answer the penetration depth aspect :) .

I hardly refresh on this site, so I thought you were dodging the question after my reply with another question

Yo I know my stuff but not how they apply to human subjects, this is kinda a niche per se, like direct application vs indirect, doctors use bathtubs to target kidney stones so…

Once all outliers are assumed ie: risks/dangers afterwards, everyone can work inwards to solution

When I said I know about frequency and induction it not exclusively that only, apologies.


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