Manko007's road to big dick land

If we both do the microwaved sock , we should weight the mass of the sock and choose the introducing temperature for the heat source homologation.

So here it is the results of the temp test.

IR was excluded as it was hard to do it, but after 8min only managed 99 degrees

Temperatures are in Fahrenheit.

Charts are in 30sec intervals. But data table has up to 10 sec intervals.

Data table has important notes that explain some temperature fluctuations.

Caveats:
-IR test was done first for 8 min
-1mhz test was done second
-3mhz test was done third and last
-test was done over a non pre heated rice sock. sock is part of girls stocking

Personal takeaways:
-3mhz ramp up was much faster than 1mhz. In 3min already reach 108 degrees, which is 42 celcius
-3mhz was much more stable than 1mhz this time
-1mhz was much more variable, specially when reapplying gel, moving side excess gel to center, and turning thermometer back on, lost temp fast, but regained fast
-I could feel thermometer tip inside urethra heating up and almost burning against inside wall
-1mhz cooldown slower than 3mhz it looks like, but also starting temp at cooldown for 1mhz was higher than 3mhz
-only 1mhz reached 110.6 peak temp recorded for about 5-10 secs. highest temp with 3mhz was 108 around.

Ill post a summary statistics for both warm up and cooldown as well after this post.

The most important thing I realized was the concentric circle is the only way to get to 108 degrees around. If you start to swing the transducer over a larger area, then this goes down by a couple degrees. More so with 1mhz than with 3mhz. Once reapplying transducer recovering 108 takes a while.

So in my experience with this I would say keep your circles very small. Speed of circle doesn’t matter much. So if you target the cord, you have to target in segments 1 at a time. Can’t be swinging this thing around because the temp will go down a lot as data table shows.

Here is summary statistics for the tests.

Pretty similar when looking at it. Std of 1mhz is higher, but range and max temp is higher.

Mean median and mode temps are pretty similar.

Sum of temps about the same.

Here is cooldown summary statistics for both tests

Nothing much to say here except max starting value for 1mhz was 108.5 vs 106.1 for 3mhz test.

Stopped at about 11min of cooling down because the temps were cooling down very slowly at bottom as can see in chart almost plateauing, so very boring to watch.

How did I do it if anyone wants to try?

post tests:
use cellphone as video camera and speak out temp reading every fluctuation.
put video files on computer and in video editor trim to start of test so starting time count is 0

for tests:
boil thermometer in hot water for 10min to sterilize it
use sterile lube to put thermometer down urethra
wash hands with soap and water and disinfect with alcohol
drink water after each test
pee after each test to clear urethra and prevent infection
be very careful to not puncture your urethra, had to sand down thermometer tip to make it non puncture tip

Here is both data sets put together in 1 chart

This is a better ramp up chart with the labels from the data table to explain the temp fluctuations.

There is some lagg in the recording of the commentary for the explanations, as you can see when I write “doing large 4 inch swings” for 1mhz line, that started maybe 30secs ago or so. Same as “really small concentric circles” right before, that was to explain how I got so high temp, but the data point is right before a temp dive. You can sort of guess though

Great Manko,

Could you bring the statistics of the actual time under therapeutic temperature, starting from 104 F?

Few thing to take from this study:

- 3 MHz does not have them peaks and lows , which could mean better overall heat distribution, at the depth of the measurement is placed at least.
- The actual operative range is 106-108 F (41-42.5C) starting from 2.5 minutes point.
- The duration of the cool down stretch should be 10 - 15 minutes at minimum.

Thank you for your contributions once again.

here is from 104

103 on 3mhz should say 104 sorry

And don’t forget to get 108, 107, 109 and above must do small concentric circles

I only did large swing of transducer for <30secs before starting concentric circle motion again. Maybe if kept doing swings temp could go <105.

Also I applied US dorsally.

It seems conclusive that 3mhz is better for target depths that are half way through a dick. At least a 1.75 diameter dick. Actually urethra is maybe 2/3 of the way through shaft?

I think another test with wide swings would be good. That is what I usually do. But from this experiment wide swings dont work well. May not do much in fact. The old divide and conquer may need to be applied here.

How do you apply US? Like how do you segment time into segments of your shaft? Or do you just randomly swing transducer around which is sort of what I always did.

Actually I think that the thermometer placed in urethra and transducer applied dorsally could present the core temperature consistency quite accurately with 3 MHz.

For me it looks like confirmed the 1 MHz application needs to be accompanied with external heat source for the temperature to be consistent.
No matter the radius of the circulation, these fluctuations occur when we chance the focus few centimeter away. The shaft should be maintained in target temperature no matter what.

I wouldn´t be using 1 MHz without heated rice sock or heat pad to maintain the overall heat. These methods should be bullet proof, otherwise we fall to level of adjusting grips and debating wrappings and other secondary issues found in traditional PE moving the focus off from the top priorities.

I adjust the timer on transducer for 10 minutes. And I focus on half length of the shaft dividing it to two portions, swapping between these fourths circulating them small circles .
When the 5 minutes indicator is on I chance to other half and the first part is now dependent of the external heat pad. Repeat the procedure when direction changes.

Now I am thinking of introducing two rice socks burying the other half completely while focusing on other half with US.

This is exactly what I had in mind yesterday as I was introducing a rice sock into my routine. I think it would be especially beneficial in your case using a vacuum device and doing over the leg you have a greater area that can be kept warm.

The rice sock support seems like a must now. When I did this test last time it was mostly underwater in the tub and the 1mhz was more stable than 3mhz. Also this test now the gel was drying up and to reapply increase the variability a lot. Moving gel around to push back to target spot cause temp drops. So having enough gel is important.

I am not sure yet about the radius of circulation because if you look at this area of table below why or how can it drop from 109 to 104.5 or so in around 15 seconds of starting swing motion. After resuming small circles it took 20 secs to recover 106 or 30 secs to 107 but about a min to get back up to 108. Only in this instance.

min temp
9.1 108.5
9.2 104.5 doing large 4 inch swings
9.3 105.4
9.4 105.8 small circles again to recover temp
9.5 106
10 107.2
10.1 105.5
10.2 106.3
10.3 106.5
10.4 107.8
10.5 108.5

In the second instance when had to reapply gel, temp dropped from 108.5 to 104 in 30 secs, and 100.5 in 50 secs ( not sure how this is possible also as cooldown ramp it is not this steep drop, at least stays at 101 for a minute) but recovered to 108.7 in 30 secs, which supports your theory more.

11.5 108.5
12 106.7
12.1 104.7 reapplying gel
12.2 104
12.3 103
12.4 100.5
12.5 104.6 transducer back on
13 107.2
13.1 108.7
13.2 106
13.3 107.1
13.4 106.5 moving gel around
13.5 104.7
14 108.5

However, I think that looking at the cooldown ramps, there is some doubt in my mind as to how ‘real’ these high 107, 108, etc temps are. Because how can tissue cool this down so fast? In 1 minute already lost 8 degrees for 1mhz and 3 degrees for 3mhz. I am no expert but I am not sure about this fast cooldown. It is fishy. I have some suspicion that thermometer tip is reacting some way with US wave that affects only the tip of the sensor for very short periods.

The most real thing from this data now that I think about it is the residual heat left after US is removed to find evidence of actual heat efficacy. Looking at the data in table below for cooldown ramp. Comparing below:

COOLDOWN
min 1mhz 2w 3mhz 2w
0 108.5 106.1
0.1 104.9 105.2
0.2 104.2 104.5
0.3 103.1 104.2
0.4 102.4 104.2
0.5 102 103.8
1 101.3 103.1 3mhz better retaining temp at 1min mark
1.1 101.3 102.3
1.2 101.3 102
1.3 101.1 101.8
1.4 101.1 101.8
1.5 101.1 101.5
2 101.3 101.1 at 2min now both are about same temp retention
2.1 101 100.9
2.2 101.1 100.2
2.3 100.8 100 now 1mhz is better
2.4 100.6 100
2.5 100.6 99.7
3 100.4 99.9
3.1 100.4 100
3.2 100.4 99.9
3.3 100.4 99.7
3.4 100.4 99.7
3.5 100.2 99.5
4 100.2 99.3
4.1 100.2 99.2 1mhz has better long term temp retention it seems
4.2 100 99.1

I am so confused as to what is happening. With this results above. What is better long or short term heat retention?

Here are descriptive statistics for min 1 through minute 6 of cooldown ramp to see how heat retention is for 1mhz vs 3mhz.

This can be useful if you split your shaft into segments so you know how long the heat can retain after you move to another section.

Of course, these figures are after 15min of heating. So it may not be perfect if you heat 5min and move to another area for 5min. But it can be used as some proxy for efficacy.