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Originally Posted by manko007
Even if they were closer than 6cm, would that be a problem? Do you think the sound waves could collide in some way to cause problems?

Cavitation could be possible. It have not been confirmed in vivo in normal use with one transducer , but we don´t know.
Maybe nothing.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

If not, we could have 4 US sandwich. Two on each side. That would be the ultimate heating machine.


Genesis 2006 = 5.8" x 4.7" /// Round 3 2019: Hanging again = 7.99" x 5.5" /// ST Goal 2019 = 8" x 6" /// End Game 2020 = 9" x 6.5"

Originally Posted by manko007

If not, we could have 4 US sandwich. Two on each side. That would be the ultimate heating machine.

Rotating around the shaft. Spring loaded to touch the skin. Rotaror frame used as a penis extender. All set


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Ooo your talking dirty to me now… that woild be ridiculously cool

Just need some time and ingenuity


Genesis 2006 = 5.8" x 4.7" /// Round 3 2019: Hanging again = 7.99" x 5.5" /// ST Goal 2019 = 8" x 6" /// End Game 2020 = 9" x 6.5"

Well I got two more US transducers. Now I have three… two 1.6w 1mhz and the sound care plus.

So im thinking tie two in line and the other 3mhz targeting closer to target cord.

Also today I revisited fulcrums and got great strain almost 3% but got that good fatigue burn on the cord after workout. And it took me less than an hour.

So it got me thinking about why that is. Why fulcrums work better than just straight out hanging.

Then I thought about the architecture of the penis. A good 10 20min went by. Just pondering. What if I were able to compress hanger just the cord. Wouldnt that be tje optimal way to grasp just the cord. Alas, there is no way.

But what if I turned the hanger such that in the narrowest groove the cord lay rest. My cord being at the 7 o clock position or left to my urethra on the ventral side. Then i ran my fingers up and down the cord. Feeling it. Becoming one with it.

And i pondered what it would be like to stretch just this ligament. This cord that is the reason for all my struggles. The reason I am here.

So it came to me. How can one target it. How did i gain so much in macro 1 and macro 2. Was it the IR? Why did US produce temporary bpfsl gains that went away. What did i do different.

And so I thought if i attach the hanger perfectly in line with shaft and below coronal ridge I am grasping thus both corpora cavernosa. Behold the other cord to the right of the urethra, yet not as big and limiting, it is thus there. Divide and you shall conquer I thought. Two cords against the forces. Two cords against my goals.

Two cords that divided can be overcome. The fulcrum is the answer. The fulcrum. All along it was always and has always been the source of my greatest gains. Without it two cords are overpowering. Two ichiocavernosus run along cords that together abolish my efforts. Macro 3 cycle was all straight out. Hardly any fulcrums. Just US with no fulcrums.

And so I realize how fulcrums are the great dividers. At each fulcrum point one cord may now suffer the whole force of the load. At another, the other. So on and so forth can one go back and forth. Divide and conquer. The fulcrum is the divider.

Now that I see this more clearly let me never forget for if I do I will suffer the time being wasted. For what is wasted may never return.

The PA longerstretch is using may yet be the greatest thing I ever use. Accompanied with 2 dorsal 1mhz US and 1 3mhz ventral US, the chords divided, they stand no chance.


Genesis 2006 = 5.8" x 4.7" /// Round 3 2019: Hanging again = 7.99" x 5.5" /// ST Goal 2019 = 8" x 6" /// End Game 2020 = 9" x 6.5"

Originally Posted by manko007
Well I got two more US transducers. Now I have three… two 1.6w 1mhz and the sound care plus.

So im thinking tie two in line and the other 3mhz targeting closer to target cord.

Also today I revisited fulcrums and got great strain almost 3% but got that good fatigue burn on the cord after workout. And it took me less than an hour.

So it got me thinking about why that is. Why fulcrums work better than just straight out hanging.

Then I thought about the architecture of the penis. A good 10 20min went by. Just pondering. What if I were able to compress hanger just the cord. Wouldnt that be tje optimal way to grasp just the cord. Alas, there is no way.

But what if I turned the hanger such that in the narrowest groove the cord lay rest. My cord being at the 7 o clock position or left to my urethra on the ventral side. Then i ran my fingers up and down the cord. Feeling it. Becoming one with it.

And i pondered what it would be like to stretch just this ligament. This cord that is the reason for all my struggles. The reason I am here.

So it came to me. How can one target it. How did i gain so much in macro 1 and macro 2. Was it the IR? Why did US produce temporary bpfsl gains that went away. What did i do different.

And so I thought if i attach the hanger perfectly in line with shaft and below coronal ridge I am grasping thus both corpora cavernosa. Behold the other cord to the right of the urethra, yet not as big and limiting, it is thus there. Divide and you shall conquer I thought. Two cords against the forces. Two cords against my goals.

Two cords that divided can be overcome. The fulcrum is the answer. The fulcrum. All along it was always and has always been the source of my greatest gains. Without it two cords are overpowering. Two ichiocavernosus run along cords that together abolish my efforts. Macro 3 cycle was all straight out. Hardly any fulcrums. Just US with no fulcrums.

And so I realize how fulcrums are the great dividers. At each fulcrum point one cord may now suffer the whole force of the load. At another, the other. So on and so forth can one go back and forth. Divide and conquer. The fulcrum is the divider.

Now that I see this more clearly let me never forget for if I do I will suffer the time being wasted. For what is wasted may never return.

The PA longerstretch is using may yet be the greatest thing I ever use. Accompanied with 2 dorsal 1mhz US and 1 3mhz ventral US, the chords divided, they stand no chance.

Applauses. Non-stopping.

There is no wasted time. You have learned. You have done what most non gainers never do.

Now that the armament race is on and you have set the table for stupendous length gains , in the mean time I`ll have to work the girth concept to the level we have with length already.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Applauses. Non-stopping.

There is no wasted time. You have learned. You have done what most non gainers never do.

Now that the armament race is on and you have set the table for stupendous length gains , in the mean time I`ll have to work the girth concept to the level we have with length already.

That is true. The mistakes of the past are only mistakes if they are not learned from.


Genesis 2006 = 5.8" x 4.7" /// Round 3 2019: Hanging again = 7.99" x 5.5" /// ST Goal 2019 = 8" x 6" /// End Game 2020 = 9" x 6.5"

Ive been getting those great raging morning boners since I started with fulcrums again. Its like my dick is trying to tell me something. Talk to me. Tell me Im doing the right thing.

A great PI along with cord burn fatigue and good strains. Hmmm it seems the stars are aligning.


Genesis 2006 = 5.8" x 4.7" /// Round 3 2019: Hanging again = 7.99" x 5.5" /// ST Goal 2019 = 8" x 6" /// End Game 2020 = 9" x 6.5"

Originally Posted by manko007
Ive been getting those great raging morning boners since I started with fulcrums again. Its like my dick is trying to tell me something. Talk to me. Tell me Im doing the right thing.

A great PI along with cord burn fatigue and good strains. Hmmm it seems the stars are aligning.

There clearly was something missing with your case. Maybe the restricting ventral thickening should not be underestimated as it is part of the longitudinal layer of the tunica consisting skeletal muscle intruding in distally.
It is actually bulbocavernous muscle striations going inside the thickening.

Hopefully the fulcrum comeback is the piece of the buzzle which provide better permanent gains again.

Anatomy of the Human Penis.pdf

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START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Cavitation could be possible. It have not been confirmed in vivo in normal use with one transducer , but we don´t know.
Maybe nothing.

I was thinking about the same thing with multiple transducers. Remembering way back to physics, and take what I have to say with a grain of salt, I’m no expert, but wave based energy when coming into contact (from multiple transducers in our situation) superposition occurs. That is the waves combine in a way that is either additive (constructive interference making the amplitude bigger) or or subtractive (making the amplitude smaller). It would make sense that there would be less interference if the sources did not oppose each other (transducers facing each other), but rather ran in the same direction (transducers lined up on the same side). Also, perhaps there would be less chance for destructive interference if the waves were different amplitudes. That is, maybe alternate one 3MHz next to one 1MHz so they don’t cancel each other out. Just food for thought. Heres a simple description, you probably already know this stuff.

https://courses .lumenlearning. … th-sound-waves/

You two seriously are the Mavericks of the applied science behind PE. One of my favorite reads, The Big Bang by Simon Singh PhD is about the history of science from the beginning of the human race all the way to quantum physics and beyond. Great stories of scientists and their passionate endeavors. Singh, a reporter for the BBC and physicist, brilliantly portrays how hypotheses and theories get disproved, proved and on an on to build upon each other to what we know today. You two could have a chapter in this book on the emerging science of PE.

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
There clearly was something missing with your case. Maybe the restricting ventral thickening should not be underestimated as it is part of the longitudinal layer of the tunica consisting skeletal muscle intruding in distally.
It is actually bulbocavernous muscle striations going inside the thickening.

Hopefully the fulcrum comeback is the piece of the buzzle which provide better permanent gains again.

Anatomy of the Human Penis.pdf

That’s it! That is exactly it. The VT is my cord. Left one is thicker than the right one. So that when i pull straight out the left VT is much more tense, the tensest thing, in my whole dick. This is why it is the limiting factor. Everything else is lax relatively.

This graph shows exactly how think this mofo is. Look at that. On part C it is so thick. This is what I target all the time and what feels fatigued when I do fulcrums.

This is what I hoped to inject nkisk into to chill it the f out and let the lenghthening happen.

Its so good to finally be able to see it.

The answer to the question, how to grasp this VT has always eluded me.

The bib is the only thing that can take on some tought fulcruming. I hope to be able to cause the most compression on this VT so it is fixed at the constriction point. This way when i hang I know the compression point is fixed and the proximal shaft well fixed of course to the body. And then fulcrum it. However attaching the bib to compress and get a fixed grip on the VT is not easy.

If you afix the bib to both cc, the VT will lie right below the left CC in my case. The compression is not right over the VT. So when I pull or hang the CC is being pulled the most and VT is almost like a stabilizer. If I can reverse this so VT is the main bearer of load I can optimize cord lenghtening.

One way to be sure is to tighten bib as much as possi le. But this hurts. If I could just tighten around VT so that the VT is primary load bearing then not much tightening would be needed. Maybe tilting the bib so the walls of the bib are strictly parallel and VT is centered on the wall it would be the best. Outer side of left VT would be in touch at left wall and lay centered so when compressed at least one side is against a wall and right side of VT well will just have to be compressed with all other parts of the penis until reaching other wall of bib. Which is not optimal, but probably better than holding both CC symetrically as it was intended.

Or it doesnt matter if CC is symetrical as the fulcrum will take care of distributing the loads to the most tense cords in the penis, the left VT by natured of simple physics, as its been my recent epiphany.

If I could put this VT on a vice of some sort. Separate it by pulling it out somehow and clamping it. Perhaps narrowing the bib at the bottom and tilting penis so VT is right above the bibs well at the narrowest point and close it, then it would face compression from two sides two walls and not only one wall and a bunch of penile tissue.


Genesis 2006 = 5.8" x 4.7" /// Round 3 2019: Hanging again = 7.99" x 5.5" /// ST Goal 2019 = 8" x 6" /// End Game 2020 = 9" x 6.5"

Originally Posted by DocJ
I was thinking about the same thing with multiple transducers. Remembering way back to physics, and take what I have to say with a grain of salt, I’m no expert, but wave based energy when coming into contact (from multiple transducers in our situation) superposition occurs. That is the waves combine in a way that is either additive (constructive interference making the amplitude bigger) or or subtractive (making the amplitude smaller). It would make sense that there would be less interference if the sources did not oppose each other (transducers facing each other), but rather ran in the same direction (transducers lined up on the same side). Also, perhaps there would be less chance for destructive interference if the waves were different amplitudes. That is, maybe alternate one 3MHz next to one 1MHz so they don’t cancel each other out. Just food for thought. Heres a simple description, you probably already know this stuff.

https://courses .lumenlearning. … th-sound-waves/

You two seriously are the Mavericks of the applied science behind PE. One of my favorite reads, The Big Bang by Simon Singh PhD is about the history of science from the beginning of the human race all the way to quantum physics and beyond. Great stories of scientists and their passionate endeavors. Singh, a reporter for the BBC and physicist, brilliantly portrays how hypotheses and theories get disproved, proved and on an on to build upon each other to what we know today. You two could have a chapter in this book on the emerging science of PE.

I think you hit the nail on the head on this one.

I tried to use 3 transducers today but it was strange like they were canceling out or something. Two at 1mhz and 1 opposing at 3mhz. Didnt get much heating when opposing them.

Then put the all on series and the heating was good.

Funny how good your timing of your post was with my experience of it today.

I like science cause you can point to it and say this is what happened, this is what I can do to do it better. Sure some people just go at it by sense and have great results as well. I consider those people amazing because I cant sometimes use my sense to do things well. Specially without explanation. But of course the problem with the latter is that what they do by sense may just work for them. With science I think it can work for everyone.

Sorry for my bad spelling. Ironically this autocorrect is messing everything up and not letting me correct it.


Genesis 2006 = 5.8" x 4.7" /// Round 3 2019: Hanging again = 7.99" x 5.5" /// ST Goal 2019 = 8" x 6" /// End Game 2020 = 9" x 6.5"

Originally Posted by DocJ
I was thinking about the same thing with multiple transducers. Remembering way back to physics, and take what I have to say with a grain of salt, I’m no expert, but wave based energy when coming into contact (from multiple transducers in our situation) superposition occurs. That is the waves combine in a way that is either additive (constructive interference making the amplitude bigger) or or subtractive (making the amplitude smaller). It would make sense that there would be less interference if the sources did not oppose each other (transducers facing each other), but rather ran in the same direction (transducers lined up on the same side). Also, perhaps there would be less chance for destructive interference if the waves were different amplitudes. That is, maybe alternate one 3MHz next to one 1MHz so they don’t cancel each other out. Just food for thought. Heres a simple description, you probably already know this stuff.

https://courses .lumenlearning. … th-sound-waves/

You two seriously are the Mavericks of the applied science behind PE. One of my favorite reads, The Big Bang by Simon Singh PhD is about the history of science from the beginning of the human race all the way to quantum physics and beyond. Great stories of scientists and their passionate endeavors. Singh, a reporter for the BBC and physicist, brilliantly portrays how hypotheses and theories get disproved, proved and on an on to build upon each other to what we know today. You two could have a chapter in this book on the emerging science of PE.


Thanks Doc ,

You are the number one fan of this series. Just a first production season and we already have the follower.

What you are talking about is active noise reduction by interfering the sound waves from certain direction with a additional wave source.
Apparently frequencies above 1MHz are the easiest to interfere. They can be reduced from just about any direction.

So the sources should be in line pointing at same direction and separated wide enough from each other.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by manko007

If I could put this VT on a vice of some sort. Separate it by pulling it out somehow and clamping it. Perhaps narrowing the bib at the bottom and tilting penis so VT is right above the bibs well at the narrowest point and close it, then it would face compression from two sides two walls and not only one wall and a bunch of penile tissue.

I trust you know the limitations of your physics and the operation window if it got tightly clamped.

I said it because not anyone should be doing the next thing I am about to suggest.

You have been talking about double clamping, one at the base and another behind the glans. Which is a description of the extender having cable clamp at the proximal part and the bib hanger distally.

The reasoning is simple. VT is part of the longitudinal layer of the tunica. Going back to the anatomic described in the very same study I posted there is said that longitudinal layer of the tunica is a continuation of the Ischiocavernosus muscle striations.

This meaning the proximal attachment of the longitudinal layer of the tunica is not fixed firmly in any pubic bones or ligaments at the ventral side. Instead it is attached very flexibly to´layer of skeletal muscle striations.
By clamping tightly at the base you can fix it to be stretched in isolated manner.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by manko007

I like science cause you can point to it and say this is what happened, this is what I can do to do it better. Sure some people just go at it by sense and have great results as well. I consider those people amazing because I cant sometimes use my sense to do things well. Specially without explanation. But of course the problem with the latter is that what they do by sense may just work for them. With science I think it can work for everyone.

We prefer measuring.

There is commonly described that user “getting better stretch” by some input . By not measuring the impact they might be just getting greater stress on the tissues.
Now we are talking about viscoelastic tissues which are stiffening via greater stress, so their better “stretch “might be counterproductive for their effrorts without knowing if they are having strain or not.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

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