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I bought Delta brand from India through Ebay. It said new and is okay. Transducer cable came with slight defect where it plugs into machine and head doesn’t look exactly brand new. If I have to end up buying another one will go with more reputable seller and more than likely get 1 mHz for price point.


My MaxVac Setup Longerstretch's Golf Weight and HTW setup My Log

Starting Size: circa 2003: 5 BPEL x 5.0 MSEG August 2007: 6 2/3 BPEL x 5.5 MSEG 04/22/08: 7.5 BPEL x 5.6 MSEG... On and Off again for a while... 11/25/13: 7.75 BPEL x 5.75 MSEG 08/01/19 BPEL 8.03 x 5.6 10/01/19 BPEL 8.19 x 5.6

Do you have before (when you started) and after pictures?

Alright, so 1MHz ultrasound should be enough to break the first major plateau which comes after gaining ~0.75” with an extender.

Originally Posted by mercuryarms
Alright, so 1MHz ultrasound should be enough to break the first major plateau which comes after gaining ~0.75” with an extender.

You will need to have a machine with intensity enough. 1.6 w/ cm^2 output in continuous mode seems to be the minimum.
I will be using two US Pros in parallel assembly. If you look in to test runs documented here and to my log you will find out the heat buildup takes some time with one only.
Maybe you should take a small decon before starting with therapeutic heat.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa

If you look in to test runs documented here and to my log you will find out the heat buildup takes some time with one only.

Does that (slow heat buildup) hinder gains or just make the sessions longer?

Originally Posted by mercuryarms
Does that (slow heat buildup) hinder gains or just make the sessions longer?

Making sessions longer. What we are looking for is the therapeutic heat window being long enough.
Time under +40C is what matters


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by gettingbigger97
Do you have before (when you started) and after pictures?

I don’t but since my campaign 1 I definitely gain around 1.8cm. With IR and fulcrums and a little US use at end of campaign 2. But for campaign 3 used US mostly, saw great BPFSL gains but didn’t translate into BPEL. Not sure why. Now BPFSL back to end of campaign 2.

Before all this I gained through various methods.


Genesis 2006 = 5.8" x 4.7" /// Round 3 2019: Hanging again = 7.99" x 5.5" /// ST Goal 2019 = 8" x 6" /// End Game 2020 = 9" x 6.5"

Everyone PM it is better you post here. That way I can answer better in one place.


Genesis 2006 = 5.8" x 4.7" /// Round 3 2019: Hanging again = 7.99" x 5.5" /// ST Goal 2019 = 8" x 6" /// End Game 2020 = 9" x 6.5"

So I made another 2 cock coils for pre con and post sesh. Now I have 3. If anyone wants to make some, use 3/4 inch shrink tubing instead of 1/2 inch as it is so much easier to insert the lead coil, it shrinks from 3-1 ratio to the coils 1/4 inch thickness so it is perfect. When I did 1/2 inch for firts CC I made, it was a pain getting the coil in the tubing.

Anyway, after reading Kyrpas thoughts on stiffening and quick loading, after forgetting many times about this, geez thanks stubborn brain, I’ve decided to use these CC precon for 1 hour, divided into 20min, each 20 min up it by 1 CC to a total of 1.5lbs at end. That way there is no quick stiffening from quick loading. Also because I use the phallosan at the end, it is so comfortable so I can do it while I work and do other things, just need to sit at the edge of the chair.

I am planning to go back into the water, the tub, but this time fill it up and then throw in a pot of boiling water, to up the temperature several degrees , hopefully reaching 110 for the water temp. This conductive temp will mantain everything nice and warm while 2 US heat up the cord.

I wasn’t seeing good heating even with 2 US without water. The shaft needs to be flat enough for US transducer to make 100% contact with surface of shaft to transfer the waves, if you are not doing that you might be wasting your time. As the waves are not being transfered and heat is not happening. This is specially problematic when you add a fulcrum in the mix, You now got a thin shaft and US just didn’t heat well.

Now that I got my PA I can use it while I am US’ing under water, and it doesn’t matter there if shaft is thin or flat as water medium transports waves 100%. Only problem is that it is such a hazzle.


Genesis 2006 = 5.8" x 4.7" /// Round 3 2019: Hanging again = 7.99" x 5.5" /// ST Goal 2019 = 8" x 6" /// End Game 2020 = 9" x 6.5"

Originally Posted by manko007
So I made another 2 cock coils for pre con and post sesh. Now I have 3. If anyone wants to make some, use 3/4 inch shrink tubing instead of 1/2 inch as it is so much easier to insert the lead coil, it shrinks from 3-1 ratio to the coils 1/4 inch thickness so it is perfect. When I did 1/2 inch for firts CC I made, it was a pain getting the coil in the tubing.

Anyway, after reading Kyrpas thoughts on stiffening and quick loading, after forgetting many times about this, geez thanks stubborn brain, I’ve decided to use these CC precon for 1 hour, divided into 20min, each 20 min up it by 1 CC to a total of 1.5lbs at end. That way there is no quick stiffening from quick loading. Also because I use the phallosan at the end, it is so comfortable so I can do it while I work and do other things, just need to sit at the edge of the chair.

I am planning to go back into the water, the tub, but this time fill it up and then throw in a pot of boiling water, to up the temperature several degrees , hopefully reaching 110 for the water temp. This conductive temp will mantain everything nice and warm while 2 US heat up the cord.

I wasn’t seeing good heating even with 2 US without water. The shaft needs to be flat enough for US transducer to make 100% contact with surface of shaft to transfer the waves, if you are not doing that you might be wasting your time. As the waves are not being transfered and heat is not happening. This is specially problematic when you add a fulcrum in the mix, You now got a thin shaft and US just didn’t heat well.

Now that I got my PA I can use it while I am US’ing under water, and it doesn’t matter there if shaft is thin or flat as water medium transports waves 100%. Only problem is that it is such a hazzle.

You definitely had the best heat cycle of us all under water, no doubt about it. So it is clearly needed to back down more like campaign 2. What ever it was then, fulcrum , heat cycle etc. or the combination what your unit seems to need. Some how the growth response was not fully confirmed with the latest run.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)


Last edited by Kyrpa : 10-08-2019 at .

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
You definitely had the best heat cycle of us all under water, no doubt about it. So it is clearly needed to back down more like campaign 2. What ever it was then, fulcrum , heat cycle etc. or the combination what your unit seems to need. Some how the growth response was not fully confirmed with the latest run.

Yeah I need to retrace my steps. I don’t want to go to 9-11kg hanging again though. So I am trying your methods more to see if it works. But I keep getting only 2-5mm strains, which is 2-3% strain, but maybe this is enough over time to cause permanent elongation. I am used to drastic mm increases week over week with my campaign 1 and 2 so I think I got spoiled from that. Need to learn some patience and discipline and consistency.


Genesis 2006 = 5.8" x 4.7" /// Round 3 2019: Hanging again = 7.99" x 5.5" /// ST Goal 2019 = 8" x 6" /// End Game 2020 = 9" x 6.5"

My bath water experiment was a total fiasco. The bath water spilled all over the floor, US got water inside device (as only transducer on omegas are waterproof, I guess literally ONLY the transducer, and not the head… but they still work, even though water was coming inside from the head) and impossible to use a PA in a bathtub. It was a circus show to say the least. And risking electrocution is no joke.

The only one thing that did work was pouring the pot of hot water into the tub raised the heat from 104 to 111. So when I went in it was really hot, and then after 20min it was 107. But touching the surface of shaft with thermometer temp was 105. So maybe inside temp even lower. Thanks amazing blood cooling system we have.

Strain of 2.5%, so after all that work, not much to write home about. I could have easily done some easy fulcruming with US and hardcore bib stretches for same strain.


Genesis 2006 = 5.8" x 4.7" /// Round 3 2019: Hanging again = 7.99" x 5.5" /// ST Goal 2019 = 8" x 6" /// End Game 2020 = 9" x 6.5"

Oh man! A tested GFCI receptacle is a must but I would absolutely not fool around with that kind of voltage around the tub. :^/

Stay safe!

Originally Posted by manko007
My bath water experiment was a total fiasco. The bath water spilled all over the floor, US got water inside device (as only transducer on omegas are waterproof, I guess literally ONLY the transducer, and not the head… but they still work, even though water was coming inside from the head) and impossible to use a PA in a bathtub. It was a circus show to say the least. And risking electrocution is no joke.

The only one thing that did work was pouring the pot of hot water into the tub raised the heat from 104 to 111. So when I went in it was really hot, and then after 20min it was 107. But touching the surface of shaft with thermometer temp was 105. So maybe inside temp even lower. Thanks amazing blood cooling system we have.

Strain of 2.5%, so after all that work, not much to write home about. I could have easily done some easy fulcruming with US and hardcore bib stretches for same strain.

If working with not completely waterproof equipment it can be slipped inside the condom or plastic bag and seal it with a tape. And still be careful.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

So any PMs from now on I am not going to answer because it is a hazzle. But I will reply to the last ones:

Starshiner asks:

First and foremost congrats on your gains. I have a question that I hope you can help me with.

I have been PE’ing on and off for 15 years roughly. I have a steel cord which I have been trying to heat up but it still will not budge. I recently read a thread by Kyrpa on using a US device to heat up the cord. Kyrpa’s experience or reasoning explains exactly what I have experienced.

I have started extending again this past July. My BPFSL is 6 and my BPEL is 6. What I have noticed is if I set the extender to 6" there is no tension and I can wear it all day and feel nothing. If I add a rod to make the measurement 6.5" then with a few turn of the tension screws I see the first tension line not showing. But all the tension is on cord which will be pulling back on the extender trying to escape.

My question is to gain length would I be able to wear an extender and heat up the cord until it is no longer taking on the tension then let it stay at this tension for hours after with no heat? Or should I use fulcrums to target the cord also (don’t have much time to do these).

I work two jobs and barely have time to PE anymore which is why I chose the extender.

Also, what US machine do you use?:"

Thanks Starshiner.

You and me, and a lot of others are on the same boat. Your case seems quite interesting as your BPFSL and BPEL are both the same. Probably once your BPFSL starts to increase, your BPEL will as well, but at an ever decreasing rate, as it has been in my experience.

I am not familiar with the extender so I can’t comment on that.

I would get this PA fulcrum https://www.ali express.com/ite … .75d74c4dm3aLkl and the bib hardcore which is $75 and do atleast one sesshion a day. You can do this in 20min after you’ve been extending.

Wrap your dick for the bib, put the PA over, then attach bib. Attach a resistance band to a fixed point (I use my closet hanger bar) then buy a luggage scale and some clamps, so you can attach the scale to the resistance band, plus the clamp can be used later for girth work clamping. You can get the clamp at walmart, the lugagge scale on amazon (buy a nice one that won’t break 20-30$)

Then you can hang "flexibly" by moving around and your PA can target multiple fulcrum spots on your shaft. I do 3 spots, near base, middle, and below bib. You can go as crazy as you want. I suggest fulcruming the shit out of your shaft for 20min. You don’t know what other structures are activated (and may be limiting) your gains besides the ovbious cord you have, so it is good to fulcrum it each direction, different spots, and feel which produces the greatest fatigue on the cord. All this during 20min.

Remember to use heat if you can while you are doing this. I use to use an IR lamp but I had to use my hand. You only have two hands so get an IR lamp that can stand and point directed IR heat into your shaft while you are fulcruming it. I am planning to get one soon as my macro campaign 1 I got the most gains from fulcrum plus IR.

I am on the fence these days about US as I am a bit at a loss from my campaign 3 which I didn’t solidify my gains, however I did see BPFSL increase, and a handful of members are reporting significant gains with it.

My two US I got were Omega brand but they broke now because I put them underwater. I said they were fine, but today they didn’t work anymore.

So I am sticking with my Sound Care Pro which is $650. Ill try to return the other ones hopefully.

Ill probably end up using one US while IR lamp and PA fulcrum in the BIB. That is of course after precon hanging to get all the elasticity out, but you can read about that extensively here and on Kyrpas log.

You should have 20min, 30min with set up, per day.

Then you can wear your extender again if you want to maximize your gains, but in my experience it is not that necessary as long as you do atleast 3 workouts a week, preferably do it every day.

Like in bodybuilding, frequency of workouts is king, as long as you don’t fatigue too much in a single seshion.

Try to log your numbers BPFSL pre extender, BPFSL after extender, and BPFSL after bib fulcruming. That way you can see what strains you are getting and if it is effective.

Good luck!


Genesis 2006 = 5.8" x 4.7" /// Round 3 2019: Hanging again = 7.99" x 5.5" /// ST Goal 2019 = 8" x 6" /// End Game 2020 = 9" x 6.5"

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