Gaining volume with Kyrpa

I was supposed to give some thoughts about this also.
When you have peaked the temperature you should try cyclic manual stretches as a part of your routine.
10 to 15 cycles of manual fulcrum stretches using your other hand grabbing the shaft and other hand grabbing the glans with ok grip.

Using the techniques described few times in my log you don´t need any other fulcrum tools but your hands.

I forgive you😂

I’m really grateful for you taking time to give me your opinion. I have to digest it and give it some thoughts.
I have some questions but I come back with them later if that’s ok?

You are welcome anytime.

Hey kyrpa

I imagined it was just using the US in the stretching (hang / extender) routines. I read a little of your diary but couldn’t understand the routines, it must be because my English is not native.

I’ll take time to read your diary more calmly. Thanks for describing everything to us.

Thanks freelancer,

Don´t worry English is not my native language either and maybe some things are sometimes explained in difficult way.
Somethings are not easy to cover at all in easily digestible fashion.

Since moving from length work to girth at the beginning of september stats has evolved like this :

BPEL 22.2m ->22.0 -0.2cm
BPFSL 23.9 cm->23.6 -0.3 cm
MSEG* 14.93 cm->15.2 +0.27 cm
*Documented mseg is average from base (16.3), midshaft (15.0) and behind the glans girth (14.3) for more accurate volume calculation
Volumetric change + 0.76 cubic inches

This three months girth campaign has been another learning curve trying to understand the basics of the girth development.
This campaign has been interrupted by on 5-6 days resting break and longer 19 days total rest decon break.

I have been doing girth work with exercises which allow to protect the penis from excessive longitudinal stretching to get much needed healing time.
This has been possible by using methods restricting the length well below the BPEL during pumping and clamping.
Occasionally pumping and clamping at free length and no manual stretching has been done.

Therefor I can say that I have been off from length work for more than three months and I am ready for next length work period (P4).

I have lost some length during the campaign still gaining in total volume by the increase in girth.

The first part of the girth campaign was experimental with using restricted length in pumping and using special squisher tool, a compression device pressing clamped penis from the glans axially against the base. Some of the workouts have been documented earlier in this log.
The main theme was to adopt the principles found productive with length to work as great with girth.
Using pre-conditioning by pumping sets prior the heated Squisher-clamping to be continued by cooldown in the pump cylinder.

Expansion during workouts was ridiculously huge but failing to produce the crucial therapeutic heat temperature during the main pressurized sets the permanent gains stayed mediate.
To administer the fluid retention turned out to be challenging as well. After some failures it was found to be able to control somehow.
I felt it to be pointless to report exercises putting out measurements of huge water balloon to be shrunk in couple of days back to normal and often even lower dimensions than before for day or two. More descriptive would be document dimensions and workouts after few days rest.

After 19 days rest I started with the same procedure to change it completely soon after.
The rest of the campaign I was experimenting with using the therapeutic heat prior the expansion workout not during.

US heated bundled stretches using 2-2.5 kg load by elastic bands turned out to be very effective way to prepare the penis for cyclic pumping set.
The shaft was twisted 360 degrees at the start to be added extra 40- 60 degrees during the set.
Two 12- 13 minutes sets were done shaft against the thigh each one pointing towards either right or left knee.
During second set the shaft was bundled opposite direction to first set.

Using two 1.6w / cm^2 1 MHz transducers separately to each other or even in the same position divided by 90 degrees angle was very effective.
Using them in the V- shape targeting them near or exactly same point elevates the heating effect in manageable fashion.

Using up to 25 inHG in cyclic fashion in pumping increasing the pressure slowly during 30 second ramp and taking 15 second pauses under 3 InHG worked well after the conditioning stretch with US.
The length inside the cylinder was restricted 20-30 mm under BPEL and this was the key for significantly greater radial expansion and packing of the tube.
The expansion after conditioning with bundled stretch and ultrasound heat seems to allow greater proportions.
And the best part I just love the most was no fluid retention whatsoever after the vacuum pressure was limited to 20 inHG. The thing is I just hate it. Going for water balloons it is both unnecessary and counterproductive.

It is clear that the donut while pumping or even worse water bagging is a marker of the workout gone over the limits.
Once the fluid starts to build significantly under the skin it is all over. We are no longer having any effect on Buck´s fascia and certainly not in the tunica.
Dermal layers have failed to stand the forces and we are only stretching our skin at this point.
Can´t say I am mastering it yet but it is coming after this learning process.

Both ways are triggering radial growth and I am voting them to be continued in the next chapter.

Kyrpa!

15,2 MSEG is 5,984 inches. Getting pretty close now to that 6 inch goal. Great work man.

Thanks Patrick,

Getting closer the goal. But not there. It is the average of base, mid and behind the glans. Measured MSEG is still at 15.0 cm.

It certainly was more than 6” a couple of times but I am not getting carried away with temporary peaks.
The potential is there as the clamped MSEG measured right after introducing the clamp has gained from 15.3cm to 16 cm already at the best.

Kyrpa, I don’t like edema either, but I don’t see why it changes the vacuum level seen by the fascia. A vacuum is a vacuum. Just because some water comes in doesn’t mean that the vacuum suddenly doesn’t reach the fascia. What am I missing? Water is incompressible.

Yes water is in-compressible. What I think you are missing is that to transfer the force one-to-one between skin and tunica via incompressable water the space between should be closed system and the elastic modulus of the tunica and outer layers should be equal.

Dermal layers being being multiple times more elastic once the dermal tissues start to build edema there is almost no stopping for it. Outer layers will show significant strain and because there is no limit for in coming water the space keeps filling water not transferring the force to the inner multiple times stiffer layers aka tunica.

If we could made it fully closed system by seriously tight clamp cutting all the in coming fluids flow, then we should transfer force with better rate between the layers having different modulus.

All in all the the force we are transferring via vacuum pressure between layers has really poor efficiency rate having edema or not.
Outer layers are really soft and elastic absorbing already significant percentage of the force.
Then the Buck´s fascia and the longitudinal layer of the tunica are firmly connected in unison resisting the force elastic outer tissues pulling it.
Going further inside the layer we are targeting the circumferential layer of the tunica is cconnected to the outer tunica with fully elastic bonds.
These rubbery strings trying to pull the less elastic and stiff inner layer we are again losing lots of the initial force introduced to the skin.

The conclusive sentence should be we can´t transfer the force via incomperssable fluid one-to-one if the fluid keeps on flowing in to the space between.
The dermal layer hold their form to a certain point which after the dam opens.
Also the excessive stressing of the skin leads in to all known unwanted PI´s with the skin.

I still don’t see the problem. Water coming in WOULD reduce the vacuum level if we weren’t pumping more, but we do. So the vacuum displaced by the ingress of water is just reinstated by the pump. So in the end the fascia still sees the same vacuum force. No? In the end, the vacuum level is still the same (I.e., dictated by pump), so there is still the same force pulling blood into the CC and pushing against the fascia 🤔

Do we really at that stage? Many of us like to stop there. Not talking about the tolerable nice little puffiness but real time water ballooning when the outer layers really fail to resist. And those who don´t stop here do they really gain more pumping to the point their skin start to hurt and get bruised all over because there it would lead using this method. Do you pump to the point the dermal layers start build edema at accelerated pace, if you do can you confirm what I described?

I do get what say and these are our views on this . Unless we can measure the stress on the tunica neither of us can prove one right or wrong.

You brought up interesting thing,which I have been thinking time to time Is the blood in the CC pushing against the fascia? And by which pressure, higher than natural erection does?. Are we talking about pressure clamping does?. I asked because I don´t know if it will. Nobody have proved that either.

Kyrpa,

My 3 MHz US unit has a max intensity of 3.5 w/cm^2…. what in the hell is that much intensity used for?

Just curious… I am fine at 2.0 but I am looking at my machine and I thought, hmmmmm.
Lol

The 3 or 3.5 w/ cm^2 is a standard set as a upper limit of therapy equipment. So there is enough studies behind to consider the use to be safe when used in a professional manner.
If you are about to heat your gluteus maximus then I suppose that you go wiht the max right from the start.
Treating tiny little pieces of meat I would consider that to be maybe too much?. Unless the transducer is moved at fast pace along the shaft it might be not tolerated very well.
I have used two 1.6w/cm ^2 transducers pointing at the same spot and found it to be tolerated. I don´t know what is the net intensity of the application as them waves can be neutralizing each other at some extend.

Here is attached couple of links concerning safety issues.
Other one is really heavy "bible" used as a guidance for healthy of the ultrasound in general.
It has some statements raising eye brows on some of the issues mentioned if taken out of context without understanding.

Other one is a lighter review relieving some concerns the first on may rise.

As the summary there is a key observation I have made. Most of the safety issues arise when cavitation or microstreaming has occured . And either of them are most probably not occurring in vivo.
Meaning under therapy for living tissues in practical applications. And to made them appear stationary application is needed most likely for minimum of 20 seconds at one place not moving the transducer.

Keeping the constant movement not sticking at one place more than few seconds and keeping the times under therapy not longer than necessary.
Also avoiding every day treatment and taking days off can be considered as a practical safety procedure.

https://apps.wh o.int/iris/bits … 9FF5?sequence=1
Overview of Therapeutic Ultrasound Applications and Safety Considerations

Now I am really glad that I asked the question.

Outstanding info Kyrpa,
Thank you