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I may be getting a US Pro 2000 as a Christmas present.


Short term goal: 5.25" NBPEL by 31/12/2019

Ultimate goal: 6"+ NBPEL x 5.5"+ girth. Hoping to reach 6" NBPEL by 20/5/2020, my 37th birthday

Dream size: 8"+ NBPEL x 6"+ girth

Originally Posted by MajorSmile
I may be getting a US Pro 2000 as a Christmas present.

In that case I will be happy to help you on your process.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by mercuryarms
Thank you for the comprehensive answer.
From what you described, it seems to me that 3MHz is all around better for PE than 1MHz. I wish I had bought a 3 MHz device, but people here recommended the other.
Most people’s flaccid shaft thickness (when stretched) is closer to 2.3cm than 5cm, especially when flattened by the touching transducer. The peak heating effect range falls on the other side of the shaft completely. Is a 1MHz 1.6w/cm2 device good enough despite that?

Are there any easy tricks one can use to shift the peak range of a 1MHz device to hit the shaft? All I can think of is placing a chicken wing or some other meat between the shaft and the transducer with some ultrasound gel. Seems really desperate though.

Your case is not any different than others. The flaccid shaft of mine is 1.5 cm when pressed against other hands fingers, rice sock or my thigh. If you have read Manko007 reporting heating tests you can find out the heating can be done with both 1MHz and 3MHz,
With 3 MHz the temperature is reached sooner. This is really new for all so here have mostly been reported experiences not that much recommendations I believe.

Anyway the picture is not that clear with the thickness of the shaft and the penetration depth.

When the waves reach the boundary of two different contact media there will be a reflection.
The greater the reflection the bigger the difference between two medias.
Some percentage of the waves are bouncing back inside the shaft when reaching the opposite skin to air boundary.
You should be able do it with 1MHz.

There are few things to try to accelerate the heat build.

Use a lot of conductive gel.

Place your fingers opposite the transducer and press the shaft between.

Do it under water if your transducer is waterproof. Placing it inside a condom or latex glove any transducer gets waterproof. Then you can adjust the penetrating depth as the transducer don´t have to be against the skin water being perfect conductive media.

There is also ultrasound gel pads available which are in my purchasing list already and I will take then to test. There are medical test found with these pads if you do the google search .
Not having one yet they look to be suiting in our cases just fine.

Another possibility is to fill latex glove with water and using it as a pad applying US through it. Lots of gel at each side.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Kyrpa have you had any thoughts on heated bundled stretches to warm up for pumping or clamping ?

Also sorry if you mentioned it before but have you tested infrared for heating ?

Originally Posted by capernicus1
Kyrpa have you had any thoughts on heated bundled stretches to warm up for pumping or clamping ?
Also sorry if you mentioned it before but have you tested infrared for heating ?

I have thought about it. It could be more effective for the purpose than the conditioning stretch I have done lately.
US could possibly cause even better energy absorbtion also as the density on the shaft increases with the twist packing the shaft quite nicely.
In fact I have been pondering the attachment because for what I have been twisting the shaft the glans tends to revolve in the PM suction chamber under the stretch.

I don´t have a infrared in my disposal. I like to barbeque though.

Joking aside as the secondary heat source it should be really fine but for me hitting the core with enough heat not a choice I would prefer as a primary tool.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Has anyone used this model? 3MHz – Model HS-3040 – Belllaire Industry it seems a little too affordable, but I do understand it’s not new or secret technology so maybe it shouldn’t be expensive to start with.


Start 9/25/19 - 6 3/4" BPEL -> 11/20/19 - 7" BPEL -> 9/1/20 - 7 1/4" BPEL -> trying to hit anything over 8" BPEL (only updating every 1/4" it's slow but it's working)

- You only have one dick. Don't break it.

- Give her an orgasm before you stick your prick in her.

I have the delta 3 mhz LCD screen. I doubt the one you listed will be strong enough.


My MaxVac Setup Longerstretch's Golf Weight and HTW setup My Log

Starting Size: circa 2003: 5 BPEL x 5.0 MSEG August 2007: 6 2/3 BPEL x 5.5 MSEG 04/22/08: 7.5 BPEL x 5.6 MSEG... On and Off again for a while... 11/25/13: 7.75 BPEL x 5.75 MSEG 08/01/19 BPEL 8.03 x 5.6 10/01/19 BPEL 8.19 x 5.6

Originally Posted by capernicus1
Kyrpa have you had any thoughts on heated bundled stretches to warm up for pumping or clamping ?

Spend some time for trying.
a) With penimaster vac cup it is impossible as the glans very quickly slips out because of the twist.
b) Also tried with different cushion materials with clamp behind the glans with 50% success rate.
c) Manual grip with the slippery conductive gel all around is pretty much doomed.
d) Traditional bib style hanger setup would be most successful for the purpose. Which I don´t have.

For choices a to c there could be possible to use skin adhesive for providing the grip.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Spend some time for trying.
a) With penimaster vac cup it is impossible as the glans very quickly slips out because of the twist.
b) Also tried with different cushion materials with clamp behind the glans with 50% success rate.
c) Manual grip with the slippery conductive gel all around is pretty much doomed.
d) Traditional bib style hanger setup would be most successful for the purpose. Which I don´t have.

For choices a to c there could be possible to use skin adhesive for providing the grip.

I’ve done them successfully using my vachanger, no slippage problems.
I used a spring scale attached to a door handle for accurate tension and that leaves both hands free, one to twist the hanger and one to hold my IR lamp.

Originally Posted by capernicus1
I’ve done them successfully using my vachanger, no slippage problems.
I used a spring scale attached to a door handle for accurate tension and that leaves both hands free, one to twist the hanger and one to hold my IR lamp.

I found it. It can be done twisting full circle.

Using the old trick learned before. Wearing two of them blue penimaster sluices one inside the other releasing the inner from the ring to form a sleeve.
No adhesive other than drop of spit to slip the glans inside. No (cap) diaphragm or wrapping.Spongy cushion at the bottom of the cup protecting glans from blisters.

I will add this set up for bundled conditioning stretch to be used prior pumping and (squisher) clamping


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

I have been doing the ultrasound length protocol for a few weeks now with zero gains in BPEL or BPFSL. Either this is another one of those PE methods which miraculously work only for some people or I’m missing something. Either way this is data. It’s useful to know how many people see gains with this method and how many don’t.

In short, I did this: 2kg in stress relaxation for 30 minutes, then 20 minutes of ultrasound (1MHz, 1.6W/cm2, 100% duty cycle) while increasing stretch to 3kg, and lastly 10 minutes of +4kg dynamic manual stretching (15s buildup, 30s hold, 15s off) while cooling down.

During the heating phase the only thing I feel is heat in the shaft and mild pain in the glans from the stretch (held by a vacuum cup). The heat is generally hot, but with a rick sock on the other side it becomes burning and unbearable. I feel no soreness in the shaft from the stretch whatsoever; only heat. Any soreness I get is felt in the glans because of the intense tension force. In fact, the manual stretches during the cooldown phase feel very painful in the glans.

Is there a specific feeling we should be chasing when heating and stretching the shaft?

Originally Posted by mercuryarms
I have been doing the ultrasound length protocol for a few weeks now with zero gains in BPEL or BPFSL. Either this is another one of those PE methods which miraculously work only for some people or I’m missing something. Either way this is data. It’s useful to know how many people see gains with this method and how many don’t.

In short, I did this: 2kg in stress relaxation for 30 minutes, then 20 minutes of ultrasound (1MHz, 1.6W/cm2, 100% duty cycle) while increasing stretch to 3kg, and lastly 10 minutes of +4kg dynamic manual stretching (15s buildup, 30s hold, 15s off) while cooling down.

During the heating phase the only thing I feel is heat in the shaft and mild pain in the glans from the stretch (held by a vacuum cup). The heat is generally hot, but with a rick sock on the other side it becomes burning and unbearable. I feel no soreness in the shaft from the stretch whatsoever; only heat. Any soreness I get is felt in the glans because of the intense tension force. In fact, the manual stretches during the cooldown phase feel very painful in the glans.

Is there a specific feeling we should be chasing when heating and stretching the shaft?

I don´t know if there are any secret tricks. If you know how your penis behaves stretched with a given load or time that would be the knowledge you are after.
We are building on measurable values using the BPFSL as a indicator for efficient exercises. The feel is secondary but the exhaustion should be minor and certainly no pain is desired or needed.

First of all have you adjusted these loads to suit in your case by the history of yours?
If your load is too high your penile tissue stiffens and resist the elongation.
If too low you need more weight or time . If you are already uncomfortable then with the tension on the glans then prefer time.

What we should do is to find the load needed to get the maximal strain available in 30 to 50 minutes.

For me it was found to be 2- 2,5 kg by increasing the weight every 10 minutes by 0.5 kg. After 30 minutes with 2.5 kg there is no additional elongation.
After 2.5 kg there is no additional elongation available either. Unless introducing the heat.

The feeling you are having fits in the environment most of us are experiencing with the heat. When heated I personally found the limit on the shaft being around 4kg where the untolerable exhaustion was felt in the shaft. I backed down with the weight to 3-3.5 kg.

If you have seen the stress stain curve I have plotted you should know it looks similar with all of us but the threshold loads should vary.

Are your exercises producing strain. And how much? We are after measurable elongation in each exercise. The feeling can be then traced back to it.

I chose to perform the cooldown by manual grip for the same reason you have described. With vacuum cup it is painful. With manual v - grip not so. The feeling at the end of the exercise is that there is no elasticity left no matter how strong you try to stretch.
The load was again chosen by the resulting elongation not by the feel.

Others going the similar route should give their thoughts as well. Each one of them have adjusted the load and timing to fit in to their environment.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)


Last edited by Kyrpa : 11-11-2019 at .

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If you are not getting any additional elongation during heated stretch your heat cycle could still not be optimized.
If not having any additional elongation during cool down stretches you should try manual grip.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by mercuryarms
I have been doing the ultrasound length protocol for a few weeks now with zero gains in BPEL or BPFSL. Either this is another one of those PE methods which miraculously work only for some people or I’m missing something. Either way this is data. It’s useful to know how many people see gains with this method and how many don’t.

In short, I did this: 2kg in stress relaxation for 30 minutes, then 20 minutes of ultrasound (1MHz, 1.6W/cm2, 100% duty cycle) while increasing stretch to 3kg, and lastly 10 minutes of +4kg dynamic manual stretching (15s buildup, 30s hold, 15s off) while cooling down.

During the heating phase the only thing I feel is heat in the shaft and mild pain in the glans from the stretch (held by a vacuum cup). The heat is generally hot, but with a rick sock on the other side it becomes burning and unbearable. I feel no soreness in the shaft from the stretch whatsoever; only heat. Any soreness I get is felt in the glans because of the intense tension force. In fact, the manual stretches during the cooldown phase feel very painful in the glans.

Is there a specific feeling we should be chasing when heating and stretching the shaft?

What strain% do you achieve? I’m getting nice BPFSL gains and I don’t even use an US machine, only heating pad. Also I found doing mostly fulcrums(A and V stretches) on the cyclic stretches gives me more elongation than just directional stretches. I also tried to do all the hanging SO and the strain was awful, over the leg works much better for the heated set.


Last edited by eivbisi : 11-11-2019 at .

Originally Posted by eivbisi
I also tried to do all the hanging SO and the strain was awful, over the leg works much better for the heated set.

Most of the heating exercises I have produced are over the leg stretches also.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

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