Thunder's Place

The big penis and mens' sexual health source, increasing penis size around the world.

Gaining volume with Kyrpa

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
You should. Maybe even more.

I am thinking my head off here as everything I am trying to reach with my girth protocol relies on achieving the therapeutic heat.
Otherwise it is just another girth routine which needs time and repetitions for god knows how long to achieve permanent results.

Going underwater with hot bath and metal reflector is one possibility.

How well does ultrasound work in water ?
How about a modified pump cylinder, move the connector to the side wall and cut a hole and fit an ultrasound head into the top of the cylinder, fill with hot water ?
An oversized tube with a narrow entrance would allow more water surrounding everything, a typical 2 stage type.

Originally Posted by capernicus1
How well does ultrasound work in water ?
How about a modified pump cylinder, move the connector to the side wall and cut a hole and fit an ultrasound head into the top of the cylinder, fill with hot water ?
An oversized tube with a narrow entrance would allow more water surrounding everything, a typical 2 stage type.

It works brilliantly under water.

The idea you are introducing could work .Having clamped penis. Sealant on the entrance. Vacuum inside.
Transducer(s) could be fixed as the cylinder sealed against the shaft is mobile. Could be slid along the shaft and rotated around the axis.

Great that you chimed in because I have had similar thoughts .


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by capernicus1

How about a modified pump cylinder, move the connector to the side wall and cut a hole and fit an ultrasound head into the top of the cylinder

Well with the difference that the transducer can´t be at the top of the cylinder as the penetrating depth of the 1MHz is still only 5-6 cm at human tissue.
Transduder(s) need to be cut and planted to the side(s) of the cylinder.

There are deeper penetrating lower frequency transducers (longwave) available but their heating capacity is too low as they are typically used for non-thermal US applications.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Hi, Its been a bit more than 2 weeks since I started following your protocol for length, so far the t0 BPFSL is up 0,4cm and I’m not even doing US yet(just heating pad, the US arrives this week), I’m really excited cause I’m a real HARD-gainer(0,5” of length after 15months and 0” girth with a lot of time invested and being constant) and it seems that I’m on the good track now, THANK YOU.

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Well with the difference that the transducer can´t be at the top of the cylinder as the penetrating depth of the 1MHz is still only 5-6 cm at human tissue.
Transduder(s) need to be cut and planted to the side(s) of the cylinder.

There are deeper penetrating lower frequency transducers (longwave) available but their heating capacity is too low as they are typically used for non-thermal US applications.

Understood.

Very interesting, Kyrpa. I need to make time to read this thread soon.

Have you looked into LEDT at all?


Start 11/30/17: 6” BPEL, 4.25" MSEG - My Progress Report

Latest 1/29/20: 7" BPEL, 4.75" MSEG - My Progress Photos

Originally Posted by lifestyle
Very interesting, Kyrpa. I need to make time to read this thread soon.

Have you looked into LEDT at all?

Thanks lifestyle.,

Not really. For skin darkening treatment purposes maybe but that´s about it.

We are focused on raising internal temperatures of penis up to 40-43 C while exercising.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)


Last edited by Kyrpa : 10-29-2019 at .

Originally Posted by eivbisi
Hi, Its been a bit more than 2 weeks since I started following your protocol for length, so far the t0 BPFSL is up 0,4cm and I’m not even doing US yet(just heating pad, the US arrives this week), I’m really excited cause I’m a real HARD-gainer(0,5” of length after 15months and 0” girth with a lot of time invested and being constant) and it seems that I’m on the good track now, THANK YOU.

Great eivbisi,

I am happy to hear you have found it working for you also.
Hope you get the needed boost once you reach better heating stage.
I am sure you can keep this trend going for more to come.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Happy with the flaccid hang

I am going for a decon as I am little bit exhausted for the whole PE at the moment.

I feel that I have found the way with the girth exercises but not happy with the workout temperatures.
To be able to transform bits of the great expansion made out of workouts in permanent girth gains by greater rate, it is crucial to achieve the therapeutic temperatures. As with the length same goes for girth, I am not going to wait for years something to happen.

At the moment I struggle to past the 40 °C.

I have gained small increase with girth measured in rest days and significant increase in girth when using cock ring during sex.
What I realized was the fact that now with the few weeks girth campaign I have been producing steadily similar progress on volume as I did during gaining length during recent period (P3)
Maybe this is the stabilized growth rate now with my penis, we will see during next length period and girth campaign.

I will take couple of weeks off and during the decon my intentions are to fix the temperature issue somehow.
Then come back with the girth if I have succeed or jump on to clockwork guaranteed elongation process with P4.

I am so happy for milestone which has been coming for couple of weeks now.

My flaccid penis is now at least as big as it was erect when I started July 24th.

I am staring it once in the while.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)


Last edited by Kyrpa : 10-30-2019 at .

Have a great decon break Kyrpa!


First redneck to say the phrase, “hold my beer while I go and microwave my unit for a bit”

Originally Posted by Mike03016
Have a great decon break Kyrpa!

Thanks Mike.

Keep it going.

I will be around checking in just in case :)


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

I have a couple of questions about ultrasound, so I ask here because you know about the subject:

1. Frequency (MHz) affects the speed of heating and intensity (W/cm2) affects the maximum thermal effect. Correct?

2. If the intensity is highest at the source (transducer surface) and the intensity decreases gradually with distance, then why the thermal effect of 1MHz ultrasound occurs only after the half-value depth (~2.3cm to ~5.0cm) and not between 0cm and 5.0cm?

Originally Posted by mercuryarms
I have a couple of questions about ultrasound, so I ask here because you know about the subject:

1. Frequency (MHz) affects the speed of heating and intensity (W/cm2) affects the maximum thermal effect. Correct?

2. If the intensity is highest at the source (transducer surface) and the intensity decreases gradually with distance, then why the thermal effect of 1MHz ultrasound occurs only after the half-value depth (~2.3cm to ~5.0cm) and not between 0cm and 5.0cm?

1) Frequency is responsible for both penetration depth and for thermal effect. These frequencies 1 MHz and 3MHz are chosen for therapeutic use because of the deep enough penetration and optimized thermal effects because of their wave lenght .
3 MHz thermal effect is greater than 1 MHz. Therefor heat build ups faster for given intensity higher frequency (3 MHz) being absorbed more rapidly than that with a lower frequency (1 MHz).
The lower the frequency the deeper the waves penetrate. Lower frequencies than 1 MHz does have better non-thermal effects but thermal effects collapse.

Intensity is the amount of energy applied in to tissue. The higher the amplitude of the waves is the greater the intesity (w/ cm^2) is.
More intensity means more energy absorbed in the target tissue forming heating effect.

2) The amplitude attunueates the further beam of waves travels. The half-value depth is the distance at which 50% of the ultrasound energy has been dissipated. Lenghtier wave is absorbed at slower rate so the waves are able to travel deeper and more energy is left at greater depth. In the nutshell It is a compromise of of both longtitudinal (depth) and amlpitudinal (intensity) attenuation.
Then with the 1MHz tissues at 0 - 2.3cm have not absorbed that much of the wave carried energy that they will do with 3MHZ . It is the 2.3- 5.0 cm the heating effect should peak not deeper, altough waves penetrating deeper but the energy level attenuating greatly.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by mercuryarms
I have a couple of questions about ultrasound, so I ask here because you know about the subject:

1. Frequency (MHz) affects the speed of heating and intensity (W/cm2) affects the maximum thermal effect. Correct?

2. If the intensity is highest at the source (transducer surface) and the intensity decreases gradually with distance, then why the thermal effect of 1MHz ultrasound occurs only after the half-value depth (~2.3cm to ~5.0cm) and not between 0cm and 5.0cm?

1. Wave length has meaning what comes to energy absorption at the tissue. Shorther the wavelength aka greater the frequency then more of the pulsing energy peaks the tissue absorbs in given time.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Thank you for the comprehensive answer.
From what you described, it seems to me that 3MHz is all around better for PE than 1MHz. I wish I had bought a 3 MHz device, but people here recommended the other.
Most people’s flaccid shaft thickness (when stretched) is closer to 2.3cm than 5cm, especially when flattened by the touching transducer. The peak heating effect range falls on the other side of the shaft completely. Is a 1MHz 1.6w/cm2 device good enough despite that?

Are there any easy tricks one can use to shift the peak range of a 1MHz device to hit the shaft? All I can think of is placing a chicken wing or some other meat between the shaft and the transducer with some ultrasound gel. Seems really desperate though.

Top

All times are GMT. The time now is 03:18 PM.