Gaining volume with Kyrpa

That’s interesting about your IGF1 usage. I too came to the conclusion that IGF1 LR3 was the greatest proponent for Stagestops’ gains though you also have to warrant the workout intensity of self induced priapisms.

Curious if you actually think a localised IGF1 strain would reap better results than systemic strains as I believe so long as blood serum IGF1 levels are higher than normal, the compound will have far more effective tissue building properties.

Have you also never pondered using IGF1 with your current PE regimen to see how it would synergise with your current protocol?

I’m following a basic manual stretching and dry jelqing protocol now for approximately 6 weeks and after 12 weeks have decided I want to try IGF1 LR3 to discern whether it would promote any significant progress but after reading your log I’m wondering if I should scrap the idea altogether.

I’m interesting in the equipment you’re using for your deep tissue heating, (the ultrasonic transducer?), and would like to know the specs and tech data on them so I can find a supplier in the UK.

There is a difference in local shots and all systemic level upgrade.

For the time the injected substance is trapped inside the cavernous bodies it will make the difference. In bodybuilding the core of the drug abuse is upgrading the hormone levels to supra physiological levels.
Using pharmacological dosages not physiological dosages to achieve high physiological levels.

There is no difference when reaching the growth effects on penis. We just simply can´t upgrade our IGF-1 levels that high systemically.
Yes they will raise by daily shots and we get the systemic effect also, but the local effect being supra physiological even for 1-2 hours a day makes the difference.
So there shouldn´t be the LR3 added if we only like to have our penis growing. It should be fast acting (IGF-1) or multiple times more potent (IGF1-DES).

We don´t need the systemic effect in our bodies after our circulating IGF-1 levels are nicely at the top end of the physiological range already.

To me it would be really big flashback to the very history I have already left behind. I am perfectly fine doing the thing as it is right now.
There is no substance abuse which does not come with some consequences.

If I ever were to take it back to the regimen it would be for making highly effective girth program given gains permanent if not happening otherwise.
Before that I would need to take really careful medical examinations before going that way again. And still not sure if would take the step again.
In all cases I would be in the favor for using it for serious girth protocol only.

I am using US Pro 2000 2nd edition and I haven´t found a European based supplier. Maybe there are for some different manufacturer I really don´t know.

Not to be a downer here but lr3 and des is pretty much useless and if you research it you will see why but real igf1 would be great but costs a fortune. Most info you will find on the benefits of lr3 and des are from papers and such referring to actual igf1 but unfortunately they don’t do the same thing and that’s the reason 1 is over $1000 and the other is under $100.

Another option to raise igf1 levels is using peptides = ghrh/Ghrp

Thank you for the response.

Is the US Pro 2000 the only equipment you use or do you have a conventional heater also?

Very tempted to get an ultrasonic transducer and attempt a modified routine following your theories.

I think it would be troublesome applying ultrasound through manual stretches so I’ll need a traction device as well.

What power settings should I be looking for I remember you mentioning 1.5 W being too weak and 2.5 W is ideal? Also lower frequencies are more damaging to the tissues so no lower than 1 MHz? Do I need a special type of jelly?

Thanks again for any and all information

Not at all ,you are not being downer as the whole chemical PE with substances available is pretty much useless.
Only few of them gaining significantly others suffering to gain , so not much different than without chemicals.

Yes. For our purposes the recombinant igf-1 (somatomedin-1) would be the medicine. Administered intracavernously. And the price tag can be way lower than you described.

Now that you have promoted up such a completely useless peptides for our purposes with men not having GH defiencies or suffering from diabetes mellitus for instance, I would kindly like to ask you to elaborate why the IGF 1 -LR3 is useless in this context? What kind of research we are talking about here.

Peptides you promoted simply are not going to have more than marginal effect on circulating levels of IGF-1.
Having marginal gain on circulating level of IGF-1 still staying in physiological levels is not going to do anything.
What we need are the supraphysiological levels and mainly locally.

Then again this kind of debating is not in the main concerns of this log and I would happily be discussing these somewhere else. Let this be kind of side trail tolerated this time.

Please take the time and read previous posts to find lot of info you are asking.

I am using heated rice socks with US.
It would be next to impossible to use US during manual exercises.

The ideal is 2.0 w / cm^2 . Users have settled pretty much at the level of 1.6 - 2.0 w/cm^2.
2.5w starts to be poorly tolerated as the intensity is felt to be uncomfortable and overheated spots might be formed.

They sell special conductive gel for the purpose and US can be applied under water as the water is the perfect conductive media. Of course you would need a transducer to be waterproof. Some are using aloe gel.
You may not find machines any other than 1 MHz or 3MHz commercially available.

Day1

1. Conditioning Stretching ADS 90 minutes with 1-2 kg

2. Conditioning Heated Pump 48mm, Length ~ 200 to 205 mm, 7 inHG 10min
- This cylinder starts to be too small already. I can pack it almost immediately with or without length restriction..

3. Heated pump 54 mm, 180 mm 7 inHG 10 min
- Packing it up to 80%

MSEG_t1 15.6 cm Clamped immediately after pump sets. Not 100 % erect.

4. Clamp Squisher compression 10min US heat compression.
- At the end felt uncomfortably pressurized as the shaft was really hard and rigid

5. Vacuum Cyclic Pumping cooldown 43mm cylinder ,0- 25 InHG
- No length restriction

6. Cool down pump 10 InHG 5minutes
- No length restriction

At the end MSEG measured while compressing manually pushing the glans against the manually clamped base.

Whopping MSEG_t3 18.2 cm girth with minimal fluid retention.

Day2

1. Conditioning Stretching ADS 90 minutes with 1-2 kg

2. Conditioning Heated Pump 48mm, Length ~ 200 to 205 mm, 7 inHG 15min
- Full packed from the start

3. Heated pump 54 mm, Length ~ 180 mm, 7 inHG 10min
- Packing it up to 80%

MSEG_t1 16.5 cm Clamped immediately after pump sets. Not 100 % erect.

4. Clamp Squisher compression 10min US heat compression
- Same as previous day at the end felt uncomfortably pressurized as the shaft was really hard and rigid
- Applying heat both from dorsal and ventral side. Applying ventrally the heat was felt rising and the steel braces actually reflect the US waves back to tissue and build up the intensity felt by the US source. This was such a great discovery

MSEG_t2 17.6 cm Clamped in the squisher.

5. Vacuum Cyclic Pumping Cooldown 0-25 InHG 10minutes

- ~ 180 mm length restriction and fully packed after 5 minutes.

6. Cool down cyclic pump 0-25 InHG 5minutes
- No length length restriction and fully packed.

At the end MSEG measured while compressing manually pushing the glans against the manually clamped base. Untolerable fluid retention.
Ridiculous MSEG_t3 19.0 cm

The stress relaxation pumping sets before the clamp squisher are in the crucial role for later fluid retention build up. This is clear as the times were increased to 15 minutes per set the fluid build up at the end of the workout is significantly worse as it seen in the ridiculous t3 result.

Signs of the accelerated water build up were seen already coming out of the clamp squisher.
Behind the glans is the area where the water build ups the most and I can keep it under control with a silicon cockring behind the glans .I am now looking for silicon head caps and sleeves fitting the purpose best.

I am sticking with the 10 min conditioning sets with pumping. We are in for the girth expansion business not for the skin made water balloon business.

Latest spec Squisher set up.

Would 2on 1 off 2on 2 off schedule be ok for your length protocol?

Depends on the response one get. To me the 1 day off feels too short rest and I would be in the favor of more rest in general. Next period(P4) I have planned to run 2+2 system.

Without a squisher device, how would you advise using the ultrasound for girth gains? I was thinking I could clamp and push my dick into my hand placed against a wall while I heat with the US in the other hand. Or else just forget about the squash and just clamp and heat.

At the moment I can only say that I am getting better expansion with the heat provided.

To recommend it would too bold as the gains are yet to be cinfirmed.

If were to do this it would be best if you make cushion where to push the glans in. You will need your other hand holding the shaft not to bend while using US.
DocJ is using US sort of this way. Not with the longitudinal compression but shaft pressed between his hand and the transducer and getting pretty decent results with girth already.

Ok thanks! And what about girth exercises? Better not to do them while pursuing length or can I do some girth sessions too?

Was hoping for a little guidance on stretching methods and aids. I do manual stretching whilst using US but seem to pull my glans too hard (or perhaps strangle blood supply) and it ends up white for a bit. Is there an aid that can be used while keeping much of the shaft available for US?