Gaining volume with Kyrpa

To give you inclusive answer I would have to give you the whole internet.

You should start to with using the search feature.
You should learn how to do newbie routines described in this forum.

First with jelqing and the manual stretching and all other manual exercise you can find.
Yes it is normal that you lose the erection while jelqing and you should not be fully erect to start with.

Learn how to kegel more blood inside your penis and how to do hand clamping at the base to fight the deflating erection.

Study the anatomy of the penis. Read this thread from the start to the end.
Read the biggest gainers highlights thread provided by beardeddragon. Search the guys mentioned and find out what have they been doing.
Go to the stats and look in the top stats. Then study what each other of them have done. Question their doing as well because you can find them contradicting.

Learn what the heat for collagenous tissues truly means when stretched.
Take a look in to my favorites and read the threads.
These threads should lead you time to time in to medical studies and don´t be afraid on looking for them.
Sometimes they are misleadingly interpreted here but you will learn how to filter the info provided.

It takes hundreds of hours for sure but at least it gives you something to aim for and prepares the mindset you will need to build greater penis.

I think I was using only manuals for the first 3-4 weeks. Vacuum extender was introduced first. Then came the US heat. At 3 months I had gained 1 cm BPEL and 0,8 cm MSEG and then I went on with the evolution phases of the concept seen in here.

I wish you good learning process and gains within.

Thank you for your very clear and useful reply, brother!

I might add that it appears much of the girth gains are more of the c. Spongiosum, it has visually gotten larger. The c. Cavernosum has become more “vascular” looking, but not as noticeable in size difference as the spongiosum.

After some time on experimental rounds and some hints of a progression with gains the basis for the protocol has been found. With this routine the principles found productive with length can be duplicated with girth. All the major aspects are covered with stress relaxation conditioning both longitudinally and circumferential.
Heated stretch is produced in compression device while clamped. Cool down stretch is produced with cyclical pumping procedure.

Pumping and clamping times are selected by trial to be the most effective with maximal girth expansion with minimal as possible side effects.
Every form of water retention ,skin darkening and bruising being at tolerable level.

So this is the routine I am running for the next few weeks with 2 days on 2 days off or 3 days on and 2 off, depending on feelings and my schedule.

1. Conditioning Stress relaxation stretch 2kg 30min. Or ADS 60-90 minutes with 1-2 kg
. With the girth protocol a prefer to use ADS so it does not involve that much because the actual girth routine demands a lot of attention and involvement.

2. Conditioning Heated Pump 48mm, Length ~ 200 to 205 mm, 7 inHG 10min
- Length is restricted by rolling a sock into to a 10” deep cylinder.
- Heated with rice socks
- This is a cylinder size filled in just minutes
- Looking for a stress relaxation effect

3. Heated pump 54 mm, 180 mm 7 inHG 10 min
- Length is restricted by piling items and rolling a sock into to a 12” deep cylinder.
- Heated with rice socks
- Looking for a stress relaxation effect
- This is a cylinder size filled up to 60% at the time. Ideal size would have been be between these two tubes.
- Once filled to 80% then restricted length should be increased to 190 mm.

4. Clamp Squisher compression 10min US heat compression.
- Adding compression 3-5 times during the heat builds up.
- Stress relaxation is obvious as the expansion emerges compression subsides.
- Tightly double clamped at the base putting compression length wise pushing against the Glans.

5. Vacuum Cyclic Pumping Cooldown
- Vacuum pressure ramp 0-25 inHG , 15-20 sec up , 10-15 sec hold, pressure off 15sec for 10minutes.
Using high(low) vacuum and to be noticed that pressure is ramping up gently not in any circumstances rushed to the max in just seconds.
Going up to 15 inHG in 0- 5 seconds and using rest 10- 15 seconds to build up to the max.
I am having three way connector in the tubing one input with open flow and it is used as an emergency valve and a valve for the pressure build up with using my thumb as a regulator as well.
I am using electric vacuum pump found from some industrial left overs inventory. It is having relatively low pumping capacity and maximal vacuum is 25inHG.
I don´t see any reason why this routine could not be produced with a decent hand pump altogether.

- Free length

6. Cool down pump 10 InHG 5minutes
- Free length

These steps are produced in 48 mm inside diameter Thickwall cylinder.

These routines are well thought out and dynamic. This makes a difference.

My current goal is to figure out dynamic on the fly. While results might be less, it allows me to move.

Today I was maintaining pressure during my heated clamping sets while literally stacking wood. I did this by periodically reducing my top clamp through my pants as my erection subsided. Heat comes through a heating element connected to a battery. Lol, all of my pants have holes cut into their pockets.

Great girth work definitely takes much hands on focus and energy.

You have sparked my curiosity in US, but my current focus is “on-the-move” PE, so anything that requires me to stay in one place too long loses my attention, ADD PE in the flesh.

Keep up the great work Kyrpa, it’s inspiring brother and appreciated!

Very interesting. I was thinking of using PEFF style cyclical pumping as well. Where did you get your times? I was thinking of doing a set of cock coffin because of strain eclipse. Then pump something similar as I like that idea and then move to PEFF pumping.

Reading your log it’s clear you did a ton of other exercises besides stretching under ultrasound heat. It makes ultrasound seem less impressive and not such a silver bullet to gains.

Can you give a quick summary of the most effective exercises you did to improve your EQ and vascular growth?

Thank you LittleEngine,

Great that you have found some inspiration here.

You are taking whole another road with your approach , I wish you can keep it a rolling on the move wearing your famous PE pants. While I was stacking wood what I could do simultaneously was listening new Tool album on my earphones.

Yes I did a ton of different things while learning.

In this post I have put out a summary very recently.
Kyrpa - Gaining volume with Kyrpa

During the most recent 71 days long run (Period 3) the concept was simplified to the bones. Stress Relaxation, Therapeutic heat stretch, Cooldown stretch.

There have been no doubt about the importance of the heat with PE community. But the conclusive understanding how much is really needed and when to use it have been lacking.

For me it is crucial. It turns me from NON gainer to HIGH gainer as simple as that. It is the active therapeutic heat application not just any warm up obligation.

I got the vascular look coming more pronounced during the first 6 to 8 months. after that not that different visually. Previously deflated looking and cold glans keeps improving and gaining size with vacuum stretching. AM 3 inspired jelqing of the CS alone is keeping the glans healthy. EQ which was quite poor at the start has improved lately the most .

Timing for heated pump sets comes from the efficiency, I can fill these chambers in that time the best possible . If I were to prolong these times there were no additional expansion other than excessive fluid build up. With 20 minutes sets under vacuum I ended up compressing impressive water balloon on the squisher set.

With heated clamping I can´t go further than 10 minutes judged by the coloring, oxygen has been used by then really effectively.
I had additional clamping set as a cool down set compressing in cyclical fashion. That can be used as well but I decided to go with the pump application.

Pumping in cycles after the heated clamping recovers the penis from the hypoxic condition really nicely pumping fresh oxygenated blood in to the tissues.
Still warmed tissues use oxygen in accelerated mode until they cool down to normal temperature. Pulling out of the chamber I can find fresh looking penis with nice reddish tone.

Cyclic timing have been adopted from the length protocol. Slowly build up comes from the fact viscoelastic tissues should not be loaded fast, they will stiffen and resist and strains would be smaller by that. Stupidest thing to do is the ballistic stretch which is the case when going from zero to full vacuum in only few seconds. The originator used to have the unit 45 seconds under the pressure and to date to me he seems to be pretty much the only one with impressive results

Thanks!

I have found AM 3 to be a good for EQ, too. I modified it a little bit but the essence is the same. That combined with regular HIIT cardio, my EQ has been improving nicely. Perhaps I should take the plunge and order that ultrasound device, finally.

Well there start to be a punch of guys other than me already who can confirm the benefits with the US application. It is the catalyst and thoughtfully picked and composed exercises during and surrounding the application are giving the needed outcome.

For me the AM has taken the shape of kegeling strongly and then jelqing the the blood through the CS from the bulb to the glans. And it really has put a new life in to my CS and the glans.
And surely I believe that the the HIIT cardio is doing great things for you.

When you were doing the heating with just one ultrasound device, did you run the transducer (the probe) along the entire shaft or just do small circles around one spot on the shaft?

Have you tried holding any metals on the other side of the shaft to reflect the ultrasound waves back to heat up even more?

Sweeping circles or eights one half of the shaft at time at the start of the session from the half point to the end more along the whole shaft .If you take a look at the test run Heat 2 documented here was made closely that way. And I was using heated rice below and top of the shaft to maintain the heat. Skin was exposed only where the transducer was moving.

No I have not tried any metallic reflector. But Manko did under water. Any metal shield should be firmly connected to the skin using either conductive gel or water as a wave transmitting substance.
No air can be between. The wave attenuation in air is too big. He have also tried with multiple trasducer setup and initial results indicate that the wave sources should not be interfering each others as the heating effect is felt decreasing. Not actually measured yet.

Using a reflector can be either good or bad. Super-compensation of the waves can happen either increasing the amplitude or reducing it by counter waves hitting the source.
In this context I simply don´t know as I have not tested the difference.