Gaining volume with Kyrpa

In the news, sudden increase in US transducer sales for unknown reasons… haha

Recording thermometer equipment would be beautiful.

I also hate inconclusive logs. People should at least mention it didn’t work at end of log so people don’t waste their time reading.

Dipping US transducer in a cup of gel is genius… I didn’t think of that. I’ve been applying gel directly like an idiot. Thanks for that tip

Every man and his dog should have a couple of them.

oh man, let’s not get too far ahead of ourselves haha

I’m just starting my 8th week (I do strain sets on Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday. Light girth on Thursday, and then rest for the remainder of the week). Things have been progressing well. First couple of weeks were just getting used to the protocol and finding the weights that suited me. After that I saw consistent 3.4 to 3.5 strain for about four weeks or so. Last week I saw a consistent 2.56 over my three work days. This week I’ve started with 2.06. T0 BPFSL is still increasing, but is now closing the gap with t-max (which looks like it might have stalled now). Is it at this point that you guys recommend a longer break?

I have several long-hauls for work coming up, then kids that will be home studying for exams, and then Xmas/school holidays - my long break (pretty much enforced due to privacy) is going to be on the order of 2 - 3 months. I’ll probably be able to get some sporadic ADS and jelqing in during this time. Hopefully, that will be enough to cement, and I won’t lose ground.

Hi Zaphoid,

You should be producing the stalled t-max until you have repeated it minimum of 10 workouts, which would mean 2-3 weeks more I suppose.
By that that time your t0 BPFSL gains start to diminish. There you can change for the girth, jelqing and ADS because there is still window left for BPEL gains.
If you are still producing BPEL gains then keep it going before taking the prolonged rest.

Because the break you are heading is that long, if you have the possibility to have this privacy few more weeks you should take the advantage of it.

During Period 3 (70 days )

BPEL 21.4cm ->22.2 +0.8cm
BPFSL 22.7 cm->23.9 +1.2 cm
MSEG* 14.8 cm->14.93 +0.1 cm
*Documented mseg is average from base (15.7), midshaft (14.8.) and behind the glans girth (14.3) for more accurate volume calculation

P3 done and dusted and learned critical things of the stretching and heating during it.
Went all the way on minimizing efforts in time spend on exercises. The involvement and investments mentally, studying and documenting and with the precision of the prosecution went to the roof.
The interactivity with followers took a step in to positive direction. If there were none I would just grow some dick and be mostly silent in my “dicklab”. Thank you for everybody interested and especially for those who have actually started to adopt some of the tricks seen in here.

Some statistics attached to show the minimized efforts put in.
Compared to previous round the time spend under heated stretching manoeuvres increased greatly hitting 18 % of total work hours.
Complete workout time totaling 41 hours going down to 40 % of the average from P1 and P2 combined.

Reading PI´s this P3 was the best time of my on going PE career. EQ was just great most of the time and the unit was healing fast from exercise exhaustion and possible soreness.
I think I am not going to miss jelqing and stretching without heat cycle included at all, if them to be ditched while concentrating on BPFSL elongation during the first part of the Period.

This time the descending trend of diminishing strains caught the post BPFSL as early as 30 days and 4% elongation from the baseline. This is compared previous rounds two weeks earlier and with a lower percentage(4% vs 6,5% vs 7%)
Capenicus1 once asked if I am having diminishing strains regularly, I am not when talking about single workouts but in the window of Period level these are the stages it kicks in.

“Are we seeing diminishing returns ”, asking Buckfever once in the while. You are friendly invited to judge it.
I personally see it being on the verge, results slightly lagging but hanging by the hair still.

Next round will be decisive as if these (P3) results are duplicated then being in the winners list already.
Not hoping but still presuming significant drop in length gains at 1,5 – 2 years in PE bracket. If not that will be some story.
I have made a graph presuming future length gains and as them being reasonable, therefor assuming not being shot down by readers either.
As mentioned next round will have tremendous effect on this goal setting of course.

Still not achieved the girth goal and I am now continuing with girth work for few weeks before the taking decon break heading for P4. I think after few cycles in and with a glimpse of positive signs I am getting there.

Graphs included showing P1-P3 progression on BPEL and BPFSL (Graph 1). Workout statistics (Table 2).
Estimated longrun gains(Graph 3).

Is there a size you’d stop at if it would be that the gains just simply wouldn’t end and you’d start having real life costs due to your size, or would you just go on for the sake of PE and the theories?

Pakko kyllä ihailla tätä asialle omistautuneisuutta.

Kiitos.

What a dream it would be, non stopping gains. Its all hypothetical as they will stall.
Maybe girthwise the 6.5 inches MSEG would be the ultimate milestone.

I wouldn´t go for the sake of PE. I have no intention to spend my life focusing on my dick.

No matter the size I will bail out after 40 months in PE at latest.

Se selittää omistautumisen tason. Asetin aikatavoitteen ja kehitän siihen mennessä niin paljon kokoa kuin mahdollista.

Congratulations for your amazing gains. Your PE approach and progress thread is a huge contribution to the community. I plan to apply your routine in the future.

About the diminishing returns, the counter argument is that when you reach a certain size, for example at your case 22.2 cm in length, any small increase is more valuable. That’s because every 2-3 mm gain makes your size even more rare. Gains are more valuable statistically when your size is already rare.

From that angle i think its worth it and 30 minutes a day still allow you to do other more important things in your life. I speak in general not exclusively for you.

Although i agree that after some time and past a certain size there is no point and the motivation is fading away.

Thank you I appreciate,

Sounds great if you can add some elements found here to your work. I hope you can find them productive as well.

The thing with the diminishing returns have come up because the lack of progressive workouts. Either loads or volumes are not increased. We are curious to see if I can keep the engine running, and how long only by concentrating on intensity.

The operation running is forward continuation of the in-build procedures and mentality developed with bodybuilding.
It is as demanding and exhaustive as it is rewarding. Been there long enough already to know it is better to limit in couple of years only.

After that it will be maintaining mode in some form. Without attitude, measurements etc. Just concentrating on penis health.

Yep, my length gains have (as Kyrpa is thinking to happen to him) slowed down now that I have passed 1,5 years mark and am getting closer the 2 year mark. That’s the end of ”newbie honeymoon”. But, however, girth has only started to come after one year mark. I presume it will keep on that way a bit longer than length.

Decided to take couple of weeks break and resume back in October. Now time to rest and clear mind to prevent compulsive thoughts and over training.

Anyways, Kyrpa you will most certainly reach 35-40 cubic inches and possibly even 45-50 by the end of you 40 month ”trial”. + you are already writing a new legend in the field of PE.

“Retired at 40months with 40 cubic inches” . What a headline that would be.

We are all mortals and besides how much we would like to master our bodies, there are things along the way hindering our dreamful journey.
Gain rate will decelerate at some point for all of us, the bigger the “honeymoon” gains are the more noticeable the settlement should be.

Breaks are inevitable as the healing is needed after gaining significantly at great pace.

You have been really supportive and highly enthusiastic about my potential in this project. Every time you have given these hugely complimenting praises I feel very humbled. Thank you USoE.

I have never set any goals based on wishful thinking. I like to stand firmly supported with my beloved charts. At the moment it seems impossible to past 35 cubic inches in such a time frame if at all.
I really need to step up the game with girth even if the length could reach + 10 inches. Of course even small increments make huge impact on volume at length both of us have already.

I have had this chart from the beginning and every now and then I have been re-evaluating the situation. Here it can be seen how much we really need to gain if figures USoE could be reached.

That chart sure is something, gives much to ponder.

Have been pondering this and the yearly wrap-up as well. If the log have somewhat hard to read or to understand content I hope this will clarify some of it further.

Getting widely appreciated it is not entirely in my hands. Widely appreciation comes if there start to be other users adopting the methods, principles or even the whole concept as it is.
If them finding the value, we should be hearing from them I suppose. I am not hurrying to push it as I have enough in my hands and brains already running this operation alone with a clock ticking.

That said I surely like to encourage some of the victims of plateauing or hard to gain worries study these things. Changing nothing in their approach they will achieve nothing from here to infinity.
Easy gainers continue do just fine with traditional methods, though these tricks found in here could push them even further or get them more awarding results with permanent elongation.
As you wish here is what I recall for having found in layman´s terms, put in the frame of one years in wrap up.

CONCEPT
Officially signed off from IPR methods. Not trying to cause micro-failures on collagenous tissue, not trying to trigger inflammation response with exercises. No progressive workouts either increasing loads nor workout volume, surely not giving any thought on any form of progressive overloading.
Keeping only the having enough rest between workout cycles and using decon breaks adopted from the IPR- environment.
Everything is based on doing as little as possible harm or damage with maximum results possible.

PENIS UNDER STRETCHING INDUCED STRESS
When stretched cold if we progressively introduce more load with 10 minutes intervals, penis stretches linearly behaving to a certain load and/or time before not seeing any additional elongation.
Adding more load at this point doesn´t give more strain unless we keep hanging multiple times longer if at all.
It is measurable and be can be confirmed by testing and measuring.

After all the initial elastic elongation is reached penile tissues stiffen radically resisting any additional strain to form. After this everything is just brutal forcing and hopeful fishing without heating.
If tissues are heated during stretching the achieved elongation is significantly better.
Heated to therapeutic temperatures tissues elongate further before the stiffening occurs.

If we were to increase loads further by a huge amounts, the stiffening should ease at some load and loading time and we will reach the proportional range (elastic).
There on the stretched behaviour is linear again but the needed loads are really heavy and loading times should be really long.

HEAT
With therapeutic heat 40° to 43 °C (104° to 110 °F) we can have significantly better strain while stretching.
In this context it means having maximum of 2 % strain when stretching at natural temperature.
When heating as described the strain can be anything between 2,5% - 4,5% from pre exercise BPFSL.
Heating above 40° C (104° F) collagenous tissues can go through thermodynamic induced plastic deformation during stretching.
Stretching induced elongation while operating under therapeutic temperatures results significantly less damage in the tissue than stretched “cold” for the similar strain percentages or even beyond.

PERMANENT ELONGATION
This plastic deformation will result as permanent elongation some portion of the stretched length not recovering back to baseline.
In this context we are talking about 1mm permanent elongation on BPFSL within three workouts inside 5 days bracket.
Without heat plastic deformation occur only in small percentage of the structure therefor permanent elongation hard to achieve and the gain rates being minimal.
Having the whole collagenous structure under plastic deformation without thermodynamic deformation would need strain percentages of 6-8 % and to achieve this we would need hanging time and load sky high. So differing from the descriptions from many PE practitioners me included , we are not going to reach plastic region with stretching by any means in single exercise.

MAXIMIZING RESIDUAL ELONGATION
Keeping elongated tissues stretched at maximal length during the cooldown from therapeutic temperatures provide better permanent elongation than letting tissues cool down freely.
It can be done as we wish but I have found it productive with extender at fixed length or manual cyclic stretching during tissues cooldown. Preferring manual stretching method for reason I have been getting some extra strain due the procedure. It has been measurable indicating 1 mm additional elongation topping already achieved lengthening while stretching under heat. As we can calculate 1mm extra resulting significantly on total strain percentage.
We have confirmed by testing tissues cooldown time to be minimum of 10 minutes.

DURATION OF THE ELONGATION PERIOD, WORKOUTS AND REST
Stretching workouts produce elongation with this concept from 4,5 % - up to 7 % from the BPFSL measured as a baseline at day one of the Period.
After the post exercise BPFSL not showing any additional elongation the focus is turned to repeating it for ten exercise minimum for cementing the permanent elongation. Not trying to force the elongation by any means of overloading etc. This occurs at 30 -45 days margin.

The focus is the then move for girth exercises which are used to keep BPEL progression on going.
Penis is a 3-dimensional volume and volumetric enlargement is needed to form BPEL gains.
BPEL and BPFSL are elongating further to take a plateau at 60-70 days for BPFSL.
This is the stage the working Period is called off. Any longitudinal stretching after this is not going to be anything but counterproductive.
Either going to prolonged rest or continuing with girth, using methods not stressing tissues excessively longitudinally.

Everything is already put up in details in the log with multiple documents and references if someone find this raising interests.

Great synopsis!