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Also in your previous cycles can you describe your heat cycles in more detail. For instance after your condition stretch you say 20 min US but don’t say what angle. Then you’ll say left and right sides at 3.0 kg and 4.0 kg for 10 min each. Do you heat one side at a time while stretching to one side or do you heat in SO position then go side to side.

Also can you elaborate on what cyclic stretches are providing for you. When I test my BPSFL after each exercise my manuals doesn’t provide any measurable increase. I know other factors could be at play and that it could be providing benefits that are not measurable.


My MaxVac Setup Longerstretch's Golf Weight and HTW setup My Log

Starting Size: circa 2003: 5 BPEL x 5.0 MSEG August 2007: 6 2/3 BPEL x 5.5 MSEG 04/22/08: 7.5 BPEL x 5.6 MSEG... On and Off again for a while... 11/25/13: 7.75 BPEL x 5.75 MSEG 08/01/19 BPEL 8.03 x 5.6 10/01/19 BPEL 8.19 x 5.6

Originally Posted by Kyrpa

This is without accurate temperature measurements, but I have noticed that heating beyond 10minutes it starts to be easier to maintain the heat. Also transducer starts to safety cut after reaching 43C occasionally.

Yes sorry the surface of the transducer head gets pretty hot I’ve noticed but haven’t measured it. Just wondering if you’ve noticed the same thing with your unit.


My MaxVac Setup Longerstretch's Golf Weight and HTW setup My Log

Starting Size: circa 2003: 5 BPEL x 5.0 MSEG August 2007: 6 2/3 BPEL x 5.5 MSEG 04/22/08: 7.5 BPEL x 5.6 MSEG... On and Off again for a while... 11/25/13: 7.75 BPEL x 5.75 MSEG 08/01/19 BPEL 8.03 x 5.6 10/01/19 BPEL 8.19 x 5.6

Originally Posted by longerstretch
Yes sorry the surface of the transducer head gets pretty hot I’ve noticed but haven’t measured it. Just wondering if you’ve noticed the same thing with your unit.

I haven´t measured either but this equipment I use has a safety feature, which cuts the power when the transducer head goes hotter than 43C. Indicator starts to flash until it has cooled below and is used again.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by longerstretch
Also in your previous cycles can you describe your heat cycles in more detail. For instance after your condition stretch you say 20 min US but don’t say what angle. Then you’ll say left and right sides at 3.0 kg and 4.0 kg for 10 min each. Do you heat one side at a time while stretching to one side or do you heat in SO position then go side to side.

Also can you elaborate on what cyclic stretches are providing for you. When I test my BPSFL after each exercise my manuals doesn’t provide any measurable increase. I know other factors could be at play and that it could be providing benefits that are not measurable.

I usually heat the unit while it is stretched 10 min to the left and another 10 min to the right. Shaft is laid against my thigh, rice sock between them as cushion.
I have backed down on load to 3- 3.5 kg, as the 4kg felt too intensive more than once.
I do heat one side at time but whole shaft is getting warm. By side heating I can point some heating efforts to each crus also.

Occasionally I stretch 20 min SO , but I prefer the side stretch 10 + 10 min.
I don´t know if I get better stretch either way, but side stretching position provides better heating .

Cyclic manual stretching has provided me 1mm more elongation measured repeatedly. That has significant value on strain percentage.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Addition to previous:

It could be possible to reach the last 1 mm with heat and continuous progressive loading,
but I starts to be unbearable intense at this strain for me, that I prefer not to try.

Also 20 min heating is already long time under therapeutic temperatures that I am not willing to increase the time.

I believe that the signs of warnings should be taken seriously going in to these strains to avoid any possible injury.

There for if I need to have the stretch while tissues cool down anyway, and there is still this 1mm achieved I can do it controlled and safe with cyclic stretching manually.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Do you have a picture of this rice sock? And how did you make it?

I’d like to make one too and try the side stretches with US.


Genesis 2006 = 5.8" x 4.7" /// Round 3 2019: Hanging again = 7.99" x 5.5" /// ST Goal 2019 = 8" x 6" /// End Game 2020 = 9" x 6.5"

Originally Posted by manko007
Do you have a picture of this rice sock? And how did you make it?

I’d like to make one too and try the side stretches with US.

Bamboo fiber sock. Fill it with rice.Any rice you want, this is not master chef. Tie it close. Put it in to microwave oven. Mold it in the shape you possibly like. I think there is not that much to show :)


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa

I do heat one side at time but whole shaft is getting warm. By side heating I can point some heating efforts to each crus also.

More detailed:

There is a 90 degrees twist in the shaft so the ventral side is pointing up.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Excellent I understand much more now. The way you are doing it would allow greater heat then my current A- stretch fulcrum hangs. You’ve given me a lot to consider. I have read the science of the cyclic stretches but for some reason I haven’t gotten the extra daily 1 mm that you are getting this week. It doesn’t take much effort though so I’ll keep it in my routine for now.

How were you stress relaxing with the bands and rubber cushion? Can you post some pics of this setup? I’m currently using an X4 extender with vac mod but it sounds like your way would be more comfortable.


My MaxVac Setup Longerstretch's Golf Weight and HTW setup My Log

Starting Size: circa 2003: 5 BPEL x 5.0 MSEG August 2007: 6 2/3 BPEL x 5.5 MSEG 04/22/08: 7.5 BPEL x 5.6 MSEG... On and Off again for a while... 11/25/13: 7.75 BPEL x 5.75 MSEG 08/01/19 BPEL 8.03 x 5.6 10/01/19 BPEL 8.19 x 5.6

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Bamboo fiber sock. Fill it with rice.Any rice you want, this is not master chef. Tie it close. Put it in to microwave oven. Mold it in the shape you possibly like. I think there is not that much to show :)

What are the dimensions of your rice sock once filled? I wanted to see if it is more flat than it is tall, etc to get an idea as to the shape of it. Because you say you place it on top of your thigh when you heat US left and right, and shaft over the rice sock, so I imagine the rice sock is rather flat, and not really a fulcrum, but more of a support or so the US doesn’t go into your leg, and also act as an extra heating pad sort of thing.

I am getting mixed up with the RSDT fulcrum I think…


Genesis 2006 = 5.8" x 4.7" /// Round 3 2019: Hanging again = 7.99" x 5.5" /// ST Goal 2019 = 8" x 6" /// End Game 2020 = 9" x 6.5"

Originally Posted by manko007
What are the dimensions of your rice sock once filled? I wanted to see if it is more flat than it is tall, etc to get an idea as to the shape of it. Because you say you place it on top of your thigh when you heat US left and right, and shaft over the rice sock, so I imagine the rice sock is rather flat, and not really a fulcrum, but more of a support or so the US doesn’t go into your leg, and also act as an extra heating pad sort of thing.

I am getting mixed up with the RSDT fulcrum I think…

Definitely not fulcrum, more like flat pad. Whole shaft sinks in all the way . At the start it is as hot as I can possibly bear and cools down during the stretch. 1 MHz penetrate that deep, it actually heats the rice at some extend when it has cooled down.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Great, I see what you are doing now. Probably you explained on earlier post but I didn’t catch it.

I will definitely make one. Is it a bamboo sock for any reason or can it be any sock?


Genesis 2006 = 5.8" x 4.7" /// Round 3 2019: Hanging again = 7.99" x 5.5" /// ST Goal 2019 = 8" x 6" /// End Game 2020 = 9" x 6.5"

Originally Posted by longerstretch
Excellent I understand much more now. The way you are doing it would allow greater heat then my current A- stretch fulcrum hangs. You’ve given me a lot to consider. I have read the science of the cyclic stretches but for some reason I haven’t gotten the extra daily 1 mm that you are getting this week. It doesn’t take much effort though so I’ll keep it in my routine for now.

How were you stress relaxing with the bands and rubber cushion? Can you post some pics of this setup? I’m currently using an X4 extender with vac mod but it sounds like your way would be more comfortable.

I have tried A- stretch myself in (P1) and found out that it is impossible to maintain high temperature.
I found laying the shaft against my thigh superior in heating and maintaining the heat. With or without rice sock.
If the shaft is exposed to air all the way it is hard heat and it cools down rapidly. Penis is a great cooler if we take a look at the pure mechanics of it.

I am willing to bet that your heat cycle needs some adjustments as you have maybe considered already. If you can get the whole shaft hot, not just the fulcrum area at time there could be some potential elongation left for each workout.

That said I have to say that with the history that long and gains already great, I would be amazed if you still would be pulling that much out of it as I can do at the moment.
In fact all of us would. If there is anything I can contribute for you trying to reach it, it would be pleasure.

Stress Relaxation with bands is reached sitting in the sofa. Stretch pull is approximately 120 degrees to upper body. Load is adjusted with the luggage scale and once reached the PM cup is laid resting against the rubbery pad which has slot to anchor the cup.

The band is pointing downward at angle so the cup really bites against the pad placed at the edge of the seat.
So the tension remains but it is not continuous load anymore when the cup has nowhere to move anymore. Not forward not backward.
It is reloaded every few minutes when the tension start to ease due the stress relaxation.

Hanger can do the same if using pulley. Just load the penis pulley pivoting the wire and then lock the wire and pulley blocking any movement.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)


Last edited by Kyrpa : 09-05-2019 at .

Originally Posted by manko007
Great, I see what you are doing now. Probably you explained on earlier post but I didn’t catch it.

I will definitely make one. Is it a bamboo sock for any reason or can it be any sock?

No reason , I just find them gentle for my cock. And it is funny to tell all these minor details.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

It’s amazing we arrived at similar routines reading similar threads, though you are on another level with your understanding and I’m kinda bumbling on and accidentally doing great things hahaa. For instance my cyclic stretch was just added to cool down while under tension. With the extender I have been increasing tension every 5 min up to uncomfortableness, first 10 min no heat, next 10 minutes heat and last 10 minutes no heat with no further extending. Those last 10 minutes as the tissues cool I can actually feel the tension greatly increase. So I added cyclic stretching after my hang sets because I didn’t want to add another hang set and wanted to cool in tension but apparently there is a lot of science for cyclic stretches increasing elongation and I have misinterpreted the data these last few weeks.

I obviously got started with US because of you and Manko’s work. Once I found out I could easily get over 40 C and hours of research I quickly bought my own machine. This kind of heat, my extended decon and these efficient techniques to progress up the stress-strain curve have been monumental to my recent gains that have come faster than I could’ve imagined and don’t show signs of slowing down yet. Your current measurements are my end goal lengthwise and I’m now closer than ever.

I have only a cursory and superficial understanding of these concepts though. I studied up a little on some of the physics, biomechanics and other subjects mentioned in these threads and your log. I have a medical background but not this kind of medical background. After doing this research I read through your log again and I now feel like I have a very general understanding of what your experiencing as well as me.

I am having trouble picturing exactly what you are doing with your conditioning stretch. If you could find time to take pictures I would greatly appreciate it. PM me if you don’t want to post here and I will recreate and post myself. I’m sure it would help give others options as well. True innovation is so rare here so when I see it come along I do tend to latch on. In the meantime the Vac-Extender is still getting me by.


My MaxVac Setup Longerstretch's Golf Weight and HTW setup My Log

Starting Size: circa 2003: 5 BPEL x 5.0 MSEG August 2007: 6 2/3 BPEL x 5.5 MSEG 04/22/08: 7.5 BPEL x 5.6 MSEG... On and Off again for a while... 11/25/13: 7.75 BPEL x 5.75 MSEG 08/01/19 BPEL 8.03 x 5.6 10/01/19 BPEL 8.19 x 5.6


Last edited by longerstretch : 09-06-2019 at .
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