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Gaining volume with Kyrpa

Originally Posted by Didgeridoo
So no manual at all.. I was gaining during that time around 1 mm per week BPEL and after 3.7 I switched routine to this:
- 30 - 50 mins vac stretch 2 kg
- 20 min 3 MHz (1,6-2 w) US heat with 3 kg
- 10 mins manual stretches 5-9 kg

I did that routine and my BPEL and BPFSL started to stagnate and ultimately decrease. By 10.8 I decided to return back to what I did before and lo and behold, I am again gaining roughly 1 mm per week in BPEL and BPFSL.

Somehow those manuals didn’t feel right and maybe I was causing my unit to stiffen or something? There are so many variables so it’s hard to even ask what I could have done wrong.. Maybe my unit just works differently.


I have also questioned my cyclic stretching as I’ve read that can cause tissue strengthening vs elongation. I added it initially to keep tissues stretching while cooling after US heat. I recently got a new LG cylinder and may add a set of vacuum hanging after fulcrum hang set.


My MaxVac Setup Longerstretch's Golf Weight and HTW setup My Log

Starting Size: circa 2003: 5 BPEL x 5.0 MSEG August 2007: 6 2/3 BPEL x 5.5 MSEG 04/22/08: 7.5 BPEL x 5.6 MSEG... On and Off again for a while... 11/25/13: 7.75 BPEL x 5.75 MSEG 08/01/19 BPEL 8.03 x 5.6 10/01/19 BPEL 8.19 x 5.6

Originally Posted by longerstretch
I have also questioned my cyclic stretching as I’ve read that can cause tissue strengthening vs elongation.

All this can be relative also. Strengthening might be relative to load and time let´s not forget. Doing many things with high loads for collagenous tissues being cold, meaning normal body temperatures can be traced as a source of tissue strengthening.

Personally I can say cyclic stretching while cooling down has provided me better strain than being in the extender with fixed length.
Being in the extender while cooling from + 3% strain can be very uncomfortable and easy to form slippage on vacuum attachment.
For me stretching being more comfortable way on ending the workout.

For the main product, BPEL elongation there is not so much difference I guess. So either way suites fine.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)


Last edited by Kyrpa : 09-02-2019 at .

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
During Period 3 (55 days so far)
BPEL 21.4cm ->22.0 +0.6cm
BPSFL 22.7 cm->23.8 +1.1 cm
MSEG* 14.8 cm->14.83 +0.0 cm
*Documented mseg is average from base (15.7), midshaft (14.7.) and behind the glans girth (14.1) for more accurate volume calculation.

That triggered me to change the focus on girth exercises and keeping only the conditioning stretch in regimen as only stretching exercise for the rest on this period(P3).

BPEL and BPFSL measured at rest are still developing as they should , but I can confirm gains starting to slightly diminish compared to previous rounds.
If I have already reached the turning point of the long term gains remains to be under speculation. I am predicting it to happen before 1.5 years point in any case.
In attached chart we can see gains especially BPFSL development lagging, still there or thereabouts in the tolerances.

With length I dare to say having found a formula producing gains time and time again.
Experimenting with traditional girth exercises and reading a lot of clamping and pumping experiences from others, I do think going with traditional regimens will not guarantee any productivity.

Therefor I have decided to adopt principles found productive with length in to girth development.
Switching from lengthening longitudinally to circumferential lengthening adopting the concept in to this environment. Stress relaxation and heated circumferential stretching via cavernous expansion.
Pumping or clamping cause stress on longitudinal tunica layer straightening it to partly resist circumferential expansion forming the known rigid skeleton for erection.

Circumferential expansion during increased pressure externally on vacuum cylinder or internally via clamps, is restricted by both longitudinal layer of the tunica and Buck´s fascia which has similarly arranged longitudinal collagenous properties as the first mentioned.
Not as tough and inelastic as TA layer but similarly acting envelop restricting any longitudinal elongation while erect. Causing significant stress on longitudinal layers and therefor making them stiffen as they are known to do when increasing the load when stretching at flaccid state also.
I am going with methods which restrict length in pumping and clamping exercises, reducing the effect these envelops mentioned have on preventing circumferential expansion.

The application of Poisson´s Ratio has been taken in the practical use in here. If we don’t allow them erectile chambers to expand freely longitudinally , they will expand more circumferentially reaching the volume available. Therefor stretching circumference more than normally capable.

It should be mentioned that doing these things fully erect with hard as possible are not doable.
Trying to force fully erect rigid penis in to shorter stage would be painful and dangerous in worst case.
Erections should be produced already clamped, or in the vacuum chamber, or if occurred naturally then in 70-80% stage.

Vacuum chambers must be dimensioned in the way the penis should expand to fill the chamber.
Starting with chamber which could be filled in minutes, stress relaxation occurs when filling the cylinder with restricted lengthening.
For next step bigger chamber is used and stress relaxation with greater expansion is reached with pre-heated unit with US and heatpad /rice sock during.
For clamping I am using experimental devise which anchors itself between two cable clamps and compressive force can be introduced pushing glans towards the base.

Folding of the compressed penis is prevented by using straps limiting sideways movement still allowing the expansion to form. This is crucial as the accidental folding of the expanded shaft could cause to get hurt or injured very easily.

Stress relaxation based girth routine

1. Conditioning stretch 2kg 30min.
2. Conditioning pump 48mm, longitudinally restricted 15-20 mm below free pumping length, 5 inHG 10min
3. Heated pump 52mm, longitudinally restricted 15-20 mm below free pumping lenght 7 inHG 10 min
4. Clamp Squisher Cyclic compression 5min US heat baseline compression.
5. Clamp Squisher Cyclic compression 5min 30sec max compressions
6. Repeat steps 4 and 5

At the moment I have only had 48mm cylinder in use and I am filling it already real easily.
52mm cylinder is on its way already to be arrived anytime soon.
So far I have documented some measurements used as a baseline for this experiment.

Day 1
Baseline MSEG 14.7 cm
Initial MSEG-clamp freely 15.3 cm
Squished Clamp MSEG 17 cm
Day 2
Baseline MSEG 14.7 cm
Initial MSEG-clamp freely 15.3 cm
Squished Clamp MSEG 17.1 cm

Day 3
Baseline MSEG 14.7 cm
Initial MSEG-clamp freely 15.4 cm
Squished Clamp MSEG 17.2 cm

Great man i like how you think. I think you are approaching this girth from the right angle and looks like you got some result already but probably too early to tell.

What is this experimental two way clamp you are using. You got any photos?

And the limiting cilinder, how are you restricting the lenght? Is this to create a compression ala poison ratio? And what cilinder diameter are you using?

Look forward to seeing if your experiment pans out.


Genesis 2006 = 5.8" x 4.7" /// Round 3 2019: Hanging again = 7.99" x 5.5" /// ST Goal 2019 = 8" x 6" /// End Game 2020 = 9" x 6.5"

Originally Posted by manko007
Great man i like how you think. I think you are approaching this girth from the right angle and looks like you got some result already but probably too early to tell.

What is this experimental two way clamp you are using. You got any photos?

And the limiting cilinder, how are you restricting the lenght? Is this to create a compression ala poison ratio? And what cilinder diameter are you using?

Look forward to seeing if your experiment pans out.

In the cylinder the length is limited with sock roll as a cushion. Vacuum gets sucked through the textures and the glans is pushed against nicely by the vacuum pressure. Poisson effect forming naturally by the suction.

Diameters are 48mm and soon to be 52mm (2 ” ) at this point. I am filling this 48 mm tube now without compression, so remains to be found out what are the cylinders to use. I don´t know yet if the 52mm should be the starting size already. Will I need bigger one for step 3 already is about to found out in days.

Attached picture shows very robust prototype of the squisher. Which already works as you can see the Poisson has it effect on dildo.

This is only the starting point, it can develop to quite different directions as I am getting in to it.

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START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Haha that’s ingenious mate, Love it.

Originally Posted by capernicus1
Haha that’s ingenious mate, Love it.

Primitive tool. Passion for bigger


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

That’s great! What are you using at the end of the caulk gun?


My MaxVac Setup Longerstretch's Golf Weight and HTW setup My Log

Starting Size: circa 2003: 5 BPEL x 5.0 MSEG August 2007: 6 2/3 BPEL x 5.5 MSEG 04/22/08: 7.5 BPEL x 5.6 MSEG... On and Off again for a while... 11/25/13: 7.75 BPEL x 5.75 MSEG 08/01/19 BPEL 8.03 x 5.6 10/01/19 BPEL 8.19 x 5.6

Originally Posted by longerstretch
That’s great! What are you using at the end of the caulk gun?

As the cushion in the piston is used clean and softy sock roll in the plastic can. Next generation should have silicone cushion once I have it manufactured.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)


Last edited by Kyrpa : 09-03-2019 at .

The squisher looks insane! Are you able to get a good squish without the shaft going left or right? Do you feel like the shaft is expanding sideways as you predicted?

Once you are in the squisher, and have done some compressions, you may want to add another clamp say at middle shaft, to expand even more below and above that mid clamps point.


Genesis 2006 = 5.8" x 4.7" /// Round 3 2019: Hanging again = 7.99" x 5.5" /// ST Goal 2019 = 8" x 6" /// End Game 2020 = 9" x 6.5"

Originally Posted by manko007
The squisher looks insane! Are you able to get a good squish without the shaft going left or right? Do you feel like the shaft is expanding sideways as you predicted?

Once you are in the squisher, and have done some compressions, you may want to add another clamp say at middle shaft, to expand even more below and above that mid clamps point.

If you take a look on the caulk gun frame, it has braces at sides. The shaft of the penis seems to be expanding radially in every direction.
It expands against side braces , and continues to expand from ventral side and dorsal side, mainly ventral.
Those straps are needed for preventing the shaft folding under the compression. It attempts to fold upwards very easily , and I keep it under control by strap, my hands or US transducer.

At the moment there is no need for extra clamp as I need to have experience for confirming if it works or not.

Expansion is just ridiculous. Pre workout girth going full erect inside tube today was 14,8 cm MSEG, Squished girth was 17,2 cm.
With 80-90% erection after squisher 15,3 cm.

I need to fix some aspects , but it seems promising at this point.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Is there any post that describes all about your metho? I am a hard gained, tried a lot of things over more than 1 year with almost 0 gains, your thread gives me hope.

I tried your compression today while my head was in a vacuum cup and clamped. And using my other hand to control shaft bend. It seemed to expand radially quite nicely.


Genesis 2006 = 5.8" x 4.7" /// Round 3 2019: Hanging again = 7.99" x 5.5" /// ST Goal 2019 = 8" x 6" /// End Game 2020 = 9" x 6.5"

Originally Posted by eivbisi
Is there any post that describes all about your metho? I am a hard gained, tried a lot of things over more than 1 year with almost 0 gains, your thread gives me hope.

Hello eivbisi,

I am sure there is somewhere here in this thread, at least there are quite a lot describing things in detailed fashion.
But what I have been doing and few others have tried similar methods is something like this when simplified to basics:

Working 3 days at maximum and taking 2 days rest. Measuring BPFSL and trying to keep it gaining 1 mm every five days cycle.
Everything is based on the principle of elongating the BPFSL, if that is not happening, there will be no BPEL gains.

1. Stress Relaxation
Conditioning stretch 30 - 50 min . If possible using a stretching method which allows to fix the stretch in certain length rather than continuous load.

2. Ultrasound heated stretch
20 minutes stretching under elevated temperature, 41 - 43 C is the targeted heat inside your penis.

3. Cooling down stretch
Elongated penis is kept in extended state while tissues cool down. Best should be using extender at maximum length or manual stretching.
Personally I prefer cyclically performed manual stretching.

This is something you need to study a lot, there will be no one but you having your dick lengthening. This is not a basic stuff but not that complicated either.
Find out if there is something for you in this thread, that will help you.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)


Last edited by Kyrpa : 09-04-2019 at .

Do you find the head of your ultrasound heating up beyond 10 min? This is the first week I did 15 minutes of US during sets.


My MaxVac Setup Longerstretch's Golf Weight and HTW setup My Log

Starting Size: circa 2003: 5 BPEL x 5.0 MSEG August 2007: 6 2/3 BPEL x 5.5 MSEG 04/22/08: 7.5 BPEL x 5.6 MSEG... On and Off again for a while... 11/25/13: 7.75 BPEL x 5.75 MSEG 08/01/19 BPEL 8.03 x 5.6 10/01/19 BPEL 8.19 x 5.6

Originally Posted by longerstretch
Do you find the head of your ultrasound heating up beyond 10 min? This is the first week I did 15 minutes of US during sets.

This is without accurate temperature measurements, but I have noticed that heating beyond 10minutes it starts to be easier to maintain the heat. Also transducer starts to safety cut after reaching 43C occasionally.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

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