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Gaining volume with Kyrpa

Originally Posted by jkst
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START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by waterman888
One other thing that comes to mind when using US, is how close to your balls you’re able to get? I guess without a conductive gel and US head in direct contact, there is no risk. I’m thinking this because you’ll be heating your whole shaft right down to the root presumably, which gets a bit close doesn’t it?

With the OTL stretch while heating I can go really far at the crus sacks not being any issue.
They tend to hung freely once the US is applied at the base of the shaft. I think it comes from muscular relaxation.
Using the extender for heated set it can be more tricky.

Contact with the testis has be avoided and we have to be carefull not to point the bean towards testis or prostate.
Other than that it feels good to treat the cruzes with US and the base heats much better if some strokes are pointed every now and then on the crus.

There will be EM field because of the transducer but to avoiding it you can always put your sacks inside the tinfoil.
I have had mobile phone in my jeans front pocket for almost 20 years though.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
With the OTL stretch while heating I can go really far at the crus sacks not being any issue.
They tend to hung freely once the US is applied at the base of the shaft. I think it comes from muscular relaxation.
Using the extender for heated set it can be more tricky.

Contact with the testis has be avoided and we have to be carefull not to point the bean towards testis or prostate.
Other than that it feels good to treat the cruzes with US and the base heats much better if some strokes are pointed every now and then on the crus.

There will be EM field because of the transducer but to avoiding it you can always put your sacks inside the tinfoil.
I have had mobile phone in my jeans front pocket for almost 20 years though.

OK thanks for this info.


Start: 6" BPEL x 5" EG (mid)

Current: 7.5" BPEL x 5.98" EG (average distal/mid/base shaft)

Goal: 8" BPEL x 6.5" EG (whole shaft)

Hi man, nice to see you are still making cock-science. You haven’t updated your stats though? Making progress as usual?

Me, I have plateaued a bit (especially length) I think but no worries, I’m here for a long run. Haven’t made official measurements though but feels like I have stopped or at least slowed down.


~United States of Elongation~

(Re-)Start 11/2017: 7,9"/5,55"

12/2020: 9,15"/6,30"

Originally Posted by UnitedStatesofE
Hi man, nice to see you are still making cock-science. You haven’t updated your stats though? Making progress as usual?

Me, I have plateaued a bit (especially length) I think but no worries, I’m here for a long run. Haven’t made official measurements though but feels like I have stopped or at least slowed down.

Hello,

I am still on the starting grid of the length period P4. And I have offical measurements on stats, but not on the signature.
12/28/2019 BPEL 22.2cm, MSEG 15.2cm, BPFSL 23.7 cm. Volume is up from the start by ~65%.

Started already two weeks ago and got a blisters for a start, now have few workouts done and gained back what I lost during the break from lengthwork.
I will put some info out as now I am getting back to rhythm.

And I am quite sure the gains are starting to slow down for me also like it was predictable to happen at some point.
Take a break if you need to. I will pull out what I can and propably take a longer decon after P4 myself.
I am not going to stay forever but not in any rush despite of it.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by waterman888

One other thing that comes to mind when using US, is how close to your balls you’re able to get? I guess without a conductive gel and US head in direct contact, there is no risk. I’m thinking this because you’ll be heating your whole shaft right down to the root presumably, which gets a bit close doesn’t it?

I have found that using a silicone cock ring around my balls keeps them lower, and out of the way when stretching straigh out. I place my hand on the opposite side of my penis to monitor heat and lots of gel when doing straight out stretching.

Kyrpa

Do you feel like your penis has heat or a warmth for 30-60 minutes after the ultrasound? With girth work are you going to use pumping?


"Relationships aren’t all about penetration." Mrs NicholasVan

Originally Posted by NicholasVan
Kyrpa

Do you feel like your penis has heat or a warmth for 30-60 minutes after the ultrasound? With girth work are you going to use pumping?

Not heat but it stays warmer for unknown time maybe the 30 - 60min you have observed.. According the measured results from both me and Manko the resting temperature stays elevated for 2-3 degrees celcius.
The ultrasound can accelerate the bloodflow and enzymatic reactions, as does the heat itself, and stays elevated some time.
That we can say being the benefits on healing and recuperation.

Yes , I have done pumping already. There are some notes on my log too.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Kyrpa, did you find any difference/advantage/disadvantage with doing the workout in the morning vs in the evening? I am guessing not?


Start: 6" BPEL x 5" EG (mid)

Current: 7.5" BPEL x 5.98" EG (average distal/mid/base shaft)

Goal: 8" BPEL x 6.5" EG (whole shaft)

Originally Posted by waterman888
Kyrpa, did you find any difference/advantage/disadvantage with doing the workout in the morning vs in the evening? I am guessing not?

No, and I have not given a single thought on the subject. And if there was I like to remove feel basis elements out of the equation as much as possible. With stress relaxation based stretching and using the therapeutic heat the value of the environmental variables are quite effectively minimized already.
The pre-exercise BPFSL(t0) surely varies and the longer the unit has become the more there is daily difference.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Hello Kyrpa,

I didn’t realized that I should be adding to this thread as I didn’t want to jam this tread but I will contribute to what I was able to do so far.

First, for anyone using the US Pro 2000 2nd Edition, it is a weaker unit compared to the 1st 1000 edition and based on the links that were provided by Kyrpa, yes, I used it on the highest intensity.

What I experienced after using the highest settings were extreme heat from the transducer head and on my shaft. At times I feel that I couldn’t handle the heat because the extra heat from the rice sock was too much on the opposite side of the shaft.

With the 6 days of this new method of PE, after coming back from a forced decon, I managed to hit 19.1 CM in BPFSL from 18 CM, however, the longest I’ve hit was 19.6 CM BPFSL sometime in 2014. So until I surpass this length then I can’t conclude if this method of PE to be successful yet.

Challenges
- I’m using a LG Hanger and I use the New Skin to apply on my glans and use a surgical tape on the tip of my glans. The challenge that I’m having is that using a vacuum type of hanger, the chamber with the silicone sleeve (even after cutting it shorter) it barely leaves about 50% of the shaft exposed to use the Ultrasound on. Not sure if its important to have the entirety of the shaft heated with the Ultrasound.
- So after using the LG Hanger and attaching myself in a SO slightly angled up by like 10 degrees to the wall using a bungee cord, I spend about 20 minutes in a cold stretch, then I take a break to allow my glans to recover from the pressure, then I go back to do a 20 minute session again but using the rice sock and ultrasound. At this point my glans are well beaten and its a risk for me to do manuals afterwards because of the risk of bleeding.

I’m waiting for my weight scale to see what weight I’m pulling from the bungee cord to see if I’m below or above the 4-6 KG of weight.


Current: BPEL - (Before 6.8' - 7') (Now 7' - 7.25')

Current: MSEG - 4.80' - 5.2'

Goal: 9x6

Originally Posted by Paradigm
Hello Kyrpa,

I didn’t realized that I should be adding to this thread as I didn’t want to jam this tread but I will contribute to what I was able to do so far.

First, for anyone using the US Pro 2000 2nd Edition, it is a weaker unit compared to the 1st 1000 edition and based on the links that were provided by Kyrpa, yes, I used it on the highest intensity.

What I experienced after using the highest settings were extreme heat from the transducer head and on my shaft. At times I feel that I couldn’t handle the heat because the extra heat from the rice sock was too much on the opposite side of the shaft.

With the 6 days of this new method of PE, after coming back from a forced decon, I managed to hit 19.1 CM in BPFSL from 18 CM, however, the longest I’ve hit was 19.6 CM BPFSL sometime in 2014. So until I surpass this length then I can’t conclude if this method of PE to be successful yet.

Challenges
- I’m using a LG Hanger and I use the New Skin to apply on my glans and use a surgical tape on the tip of my glans. The challenge that I’m having is that using a vacuum type of hanger, the chamber with the silicone sleeve (even after cutting it shorter) it barely leaves about 50% of the shaft exposed to use the Ultrasound on. Not sure if its important to have the entirety of the shaft heated with the Ultrasound.
- So after using the LG Hanger and attaching myself in a SO slightly angled up by like 10 degrees to the wall using a bungee cord, I spend about 20 minutes in a cold stretch, then I take a break to allow my glans to recover from the pressure, then I go back to do a 20 minute session again but using the rice sock and ultrasound. At this point my glans are well beaten and its a risk for me to do manuals afterwards because of the risk of bleeding.

I’m waiting for my weight scale to see what weight I’m pulling from the bungee cord to see if I’m below or above the 4-6 KG of weight.

Thanks for the input, I am composing a utlrasound thread where we can continue these postings later on. Now that you have found the setting I am sure you find the way keep the transducer moving at the pace you can tolerate the intensity.
Rice sock can have 60-70 C core temperature when there is 45 to 50 C touching temperature so you need to test it with the kitchen thermometer you have´t heated it too much.
You have already very quickly recovered some lost length and I am positive you gain some new length keeping this going.

Why don´t you try to apply ultrasound through the sleeve. Ultrasonic waves can travel through with a few percentage attenuation if the contact pathc is conducting.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
No, and I have not given a single thought on the subject. And if there was I like to remove feel basis elements out of the equation as much as possible. With stress relaxation based stretching and using the therapeutic heat the value of the environmental variables are quite effectively minimized already.
The pre-exercise BPFSL(t0) surely varies and the longer the unit has become the more there is daily difference.

OK thanks for this.


Start: 6" BPEL x 5" EG (mid)

Current: 7.5" BPEL x 5.98" EG (average distal/mid/base shaft)

Goal: 8" BPEL x 6.5" EG (whole shaft)

Period 4 (P4) for length first 27 days

Recovering lost length

BPEL 22.0m ->22.3 +0.3cm
BPFSL 23.6 cm->23.8 +0.2 cm
MSEG* 15.2 +0.0 cm
*Documented mseg is average from base (16.3), midshaft (15.0) and behind the glans girth (14.3) for more accurate volume calculation

I have had such a delayed start for the period so let´s see if I can catch up previous runs later.
I have gained back the length lost during the girth campaign in sort of slow fashion.

Started with a 2 on 2 off schedule and starting the second cycle I got blood blister in my glans.
Small one and it healed in few days still needing to take some days off from vacuum stretching.
It came out like all the previous fluid blisters from the start of the period and from extended session with out head cap.
Hopefully I got this on my mind at least now for the future starts.

There after I continued with the 2 o 2 off cycles and had many extra rest days between. Strain percentage kept staying unusually low and I extended the conditioning stretch for 40 to 50 minutes. P3 conditioning strains getting at the 1.6- 1.8 % range now they were approximately the 1.2 %.

It did not give me any edge so I put rice sock heating for the conditioning stretch.
Putting the heating on I instantly found out getting prone to form fluid blisters if the stretch continued that long , so I had to limit it to max 40 minutes with the heat.
After this I have kept it there and used the rice sock heating on conditioning stretch getting strain back to the desired level.

BPEL has got over the previous best already but the BPFSL keeps lagging behind. It looks that I have come to the point not progressively putting more input by stress on the tissues I am reaching the level of diminishing returns.

I will keep the loading at the bracket I have earlier tested which allows me to increase the load only marginally.
I can increase the conditioning stretch load from 2.2 kg to 2.5 kg. Respectively the heated loading can be elevated to 3.7 kg.
Previously tried the 4 kg load being at verge of being too much to handle.

For the manual stretching I have already operated at the level the grip can hold and the glans can bear, so no increase in that sector.
Only tweak in manual stretching is that I have slightly increased the time. This came from applying few bundled stretches in..

The routine looks like this at the moment

Phase 1 CONDITIONING STRETCH
Measuring t_0 BPFSL
Stress Relaxation stretch for 40 minutes with rice sock heating. Load 2.2 kg. Using elastic band and hook scale.
Stress relaxation is produced by putting the tension and then letting the vacuum cup rest in the edge of the sofa not pulling any further. Every 5 minute
reloading the band.

Phase 2 HEATED STRETCH
Stretched OTL with the elastic band for 12,5 minutes each side. Load 3.2 kg. Heating with two 1.6w /cm^2 1MHz transducers. The shaft laying firmly
against the skin of my thigh the heat is felt very easily and by the dual approach the heat is distributed nicely all around the shaft after 5 to 8 minutes.
Stress Relaxation happening the band have to be re-loaded once per side.

Phase 3 MANUAL STRETCHING
Interval timer for 16 stretches 30 second work and 15 second rest.
Stretching all imaginable direction mirroring each side. Manual fulcrums and bundled stretches included in.
The load approximately between 6 to 9 kg,based on previous testing of the manual force.
Measuring t_3 BPFSL

Strain percentage have been evolving from 3.2 % to 4.2 %.
Lately it has been stabilized at around 3.7%


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)


Last edited by Kyrpa : 01-08-2020 at .

Kyrpa, how exactly you perform the bundled stretches? Also based on your knowledge about penis anotomy, which i trust, do you think that they are risky for the urethra?
The urethra is very sensitive and maybe isn’t supposed to bend this way.

Thanks!

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