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Gaining volume with Kyrpa

Originally Posted by Gentlepsychopath
Kyrpa, how exactly you perform the bundled stretches? Also based on your knowledge about penis anotomy, which i trust, do you think that they are risky for the urethra?
The urethra is very sensitive and maybe isn’t supposed to bend this way.

Thanks!

Hi,

Thank you putting your trust on me. That sounds brave :)

There certainly will be risks involved with the bundled stretch and if I was to use it I would never do it on cold penis. It has to be heated by some way or another.
I have seen some perform bundled fulcrums which is something I would never do and strongly recommend not to do.
It puts a lot of localized stress for the pinched nerves to stretch them over the fulcrum.

More it is twisted the greater the risk. I really don´t know which is greater risk twisting the urethra or the dorsal nerves?
Anyway both of them being far from the center they actually form nice sweepingly contouring spiral when the penis is twisted around it´s axis.
Bundled shaft has to be treated carefully, tension must be applied gently and slowly increasing towards the end of the stretch.

The skin of the shaft is good to to be lubricated by some medium maybe oiled as the bundling cause lot of friction once the stretch is applied.
I do it with ultrasound conductive gel as I use to heat it prior or during.

I grab the non- lubricated glans with two hands and twist the shaft around the axis for 360 degrees aka one round and grip the glans with a v-grip.
Then I slowly increase the tension as I start to pull it while sitting. The most natural direction for me is to stretch it towards my hip bone.
Slowly applying the tension I can pull almost as hard as I can when stretched straight unit. This is the way when done in manual stretching.

When done as a heated ultrasound stretch I pull the bundle towards my knee with vacuum cup and elastic band. Here I can heat it easily with US ,shaft against my skin.
I keep less tension than stretching normally because the grip in the vacuum cup starts to loose when the tension is high and the bundle starts to roll open.
After five minutes I loosen the pull a little and twist 90 degrees more re-load and continue another 5 minutes.

Then twisting opposite direction and stretch against other leg for 10 minutes with the heat.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Hi Kyrpa, a couple quick questions for you…

How would you say your flaccid overall has changed during the US cycles? Is your NBPFL and FG different after or during your US growth periods?

How focused in the wavefront on your US machine. For example, my transducer has a 9.6cm^2 surface area. However, if I remove the head, the plate within is only 3cm^2. If I test it in cooking oil, 80% of the power is quite focused within about a 0.5cm^2 area. Is this how your machine is, or does the wavefront radiate outward more with a larger area?

Originally Posted by Tutt
Hi Kyrpa, a couple quick questions for you…

How would you say your flaccid overall has changed during the US cycles? Is your NBPFL and FG different after or during your US growth periods?

How focused in the wavefront on your US machine. For example, my transducer has a 9.6cm^2 surface area. However, if I remove the head, the plate within is only 3cm^2. If I test it in cooking oil, 80% of the power is quite focused within about a 0.5cm^2 area. Is this how your machine is, or does the wavefront radiate outward more with a larger area?

FL took a huge leap when the first ulrasound round provided initial difference on BPEL and BPFSL.
There after it has improved quite steadily. I am transforming from grower to shower. You can see it in my stats.
FG has improved also but the progress is that slow I am not measuring quite often.

The blood supply has improved during this time alot and I am not suffering from cold flaccid anymore.
I think I have increasde FL during the girth campaign too, but as it fluctuates I prefer to wait if is it real or not.

These transducers have ERA of 4cm^2 outside area being ~8.5 cm^2.

I have tested and I don´t know if the intensity is big enough to be seen it in oil?
Looking for the water bubbling it looks really uniform and unfocused. The beam enlargening slightly the deeper it goes.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Tutt
Hi Kyrpa, a couple quick questions for you…

How would you say your flaccid overall has changed during the US cycles? Is your NBPFL and FG different after or during your US growth periods?

How focused in the wavefront on your US machine. For example, my transducer has a 9.6cm^2 surface area. However, if I remove the head, the plate within is only 3cm^2. If I test it in cooking oil, 80% of the power is quite focused within about a 0.5cm^2 area. Is this how your machine is, or does the wavefront radiate outward more with a larger area?

I did the oil test. The ERA seems to be quite accurately what they claim.

There is a peak in the center but I would say not by the percentage you found.
I would estimate the peak having about 1,5 cm^2 of the center area.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
I did the oil test. The ERA seems to be quite accurately what they claim.

There is a peak in the center but I would say not by the percentage you found.
I would estimate the peak having about 1,5 cm^2 of the center area.

Yeah, I’ve tested it twice now through various methods. Mine is one of the 1Mhz machines on ebay from India that does 3.0W/cm^2. Basically this specific machine is capable of way too much power in a focused manner. To test heat the shaft I’ve had to turn it down to 1.0W to prevent pinching from the peak right in the center. Using a standoff I could heat the entire shaft in less than 3 minutes at 2.0W but I’d have to keep the handpiece moving very quickly.

Suddenly the machine just stopped working during my test. Given that it doesn’t really have what I would consider a safe power profile and it is now broken somehow, I’m just gonna buy a new machine from a more reputable medical instruments manufacturer.

The Dynatron 125 machine is intriguing because it is the only unit that can do 2Mhz.

The Soundcare Plus is interesting because it can run two sound heads simultaneously.

Otherwise I can just get 2 of the US Pro 2000. They are cheap and as you mentioned, have decent profile and running 2 or 3 of them in a row is arguably the best application. I wish the sound heads were more compact.

Originally Posted by Tutt
The Dynatron 125 machine is intriguing because it is the only unit that can do 2Mhz.

The Soundcare Plus is interesting because it can run two sound heads simultaneously.

Otherwise I can just get 2 of the US Pro 2000. They are cheap and as you mentioned, have decent profile and running 2 or 3 of them in a row is arguably the best application. I wish the sound heads were more compact.

Does the Soundcare use simultaneus channels? If it does it sounds interesting also. I thought you can toggle between channels only.

Dynatron should be the scientitist´s choice :)

Tutt, what if I will do is to make decent wave profile test using different levels of oil to be able to actually make a model out of the beam profile. What I was thinking if the amplitude should be seem forming different diameter circles at the surface of each oil level.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Hi Kyrpa

So today I found that heating the dorsal side stretched over a bar on my thighs worked better in terms of what I could feel. I’d ramped up intensity to 2.2 W/cm2 and after lingering 5 seconds in one place I could feel the heat and had to move it, but this was only on that bit of shaft highly stretched over the bar, in other parts of the shaft I didn’t feel it as much. When you use US, how long are you able to linger on one particular area before moving on?


Start: 6" BPEL x 5" EG (mid)

Current: 7.5" BPEL x 5.98" EG (average distal/mid/base shaft)

Goal: 8" BPEL x 6.5" EG (whole shaft)

Originally Posted by waterman888
Hi Kyrpa

So today I found that heating the dorsal side stretched over a bar on my thighs worked better in terms of what I could feel. I’d ramped up intensity to 2.2 W/cm2 and after lingering 5 seconds in one place I could feel the heat and had to move it, but this was only on that bit of shaft highly stretched over the bar, in other parts of the shaft I didn’t feel it as much. When you use US, how long are you able to linger on one particular area before moving on?

There is a thing I have been thinking a lot lately that poor results with extender heaters have to come from the backfiring effect waves reflecting back from skin to air boundary.
There is formula to calculate the reflection and it is giving really bad reflection on skin to air junction.
As a summary the colliding waves does not amplify but the resulting intensity is transducer intensity minus the reflection.
Product being really poor heating.
It looks like a epidemic problem for all the extender guys struggling to get the heat we do with the shaft firmly attached to the skin of the leg.

I am not able to stay at one please more than 5 seconds after it starts to feel too intense and unbearable.

I will try to prove my theory later on the ultrasound thread, but there might be help for the extender users if they wear ultrasound gel pad or standoff firmly against the skin at opposite site to transducer.
With the solution the backfiring air to skin boundary moves forward at least and affects the heating less.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

OK thanks for that. Actually now I think about it, the harder I pressed in, the quicker I could feel something… there is something about making good contact. I definitely use enough (too much) gel, so that’s not the issue. I think with intensity of 2.2 W which is a lot higher than you are using (I think) I should be feeling it quicker. So I’ll concentrate on pressing properly, but also I was thinking I should use a heated rice sock on the other side if doing it over the leg, as I’m guessing at the end of US the shaft should feel warm right? I know the skin temperature doesn’t increase too much but in your case, when you finish is there an indication that it’s all heated up correctly? Like maybe it gets a bit redder overall, or feels warm to touch? With mine I’m not sure I’m feeling too much heat after…. Could also be it’s a crap US machine!


Start: 6" BPEL x 5" EG (mid)

Current: 7.5" BPEL x 5.98" EG (average distal/mid/base shaft)

Goal: 8" BPEL x 6.5" EG (whole shaft)

Originally Posted by waterman888
OK thanks for that. Actually now I think about it, the harder I pressed in, the quicker I could feel something… there is something about making good contact. I definitely use enough (too much) gel, so that’s not the issue. I think with intensity of 2.2 W which is a lot higher than you are using (I think) I should be feeling it quicker. So I’ll concentrate on pressing properly, but also I was thinking I should use a heated rice sock on the other side if doing it over the leg, as I’m guessing at the end of US the shaft should feel warm right? I know the skin temperature doesn’t increase too much but in your case, when you finish is there an indication that it’s all heated up correctly? Like maybe it gets a bit redder overall, or feels warm to touch? With mine I’m not sure I’m feeling too much heat after…. Could also be it’s a crap US machine!


According to Manko the 3 MHZ should be felt significantly sooner.

In my case with the 1MHz , surely there is skin heating between the junction of shaft and thigh not only going reddish. At the to skin exposed in to air skin tem stays quite normal.

There are some doubts of the most affordable machines, which is the effective radiating area or how uniform of focused are the beams etc.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
According to Manko the 3 MHZ should be felt significantly sooner.

In my case with the 1MHz , surely there is skin heating between the junction of shaft and thigh not only going reddish. At the to skin exposed in to air skin tem stays quite normal.

There are some doubts of the most affordable machines, which is the effective radiating area or how uniform of focused are the beams etc.

Yes, I believe Manko bought a better quality unit didn’t he. I’ll try tomorrow with it OTL again and check for temperature between shaft/thigh and colour as well - if there isn’t much after 10 mins on that side then it could be the machine. Or it could just be my technique which I need to modify (press harder)…. will check.


Start: 6" BPEL x 5" EG (mid)

Current: 7.5" BPEL x 5.98" EG (average distal/mid/base shaft)

Goal: 8" BPEL x 6.5" EG (whole shaft)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Does the Soundcare use simultaneus channels? If it does it sounds interesting also. I thought you can toggle between channels only.

Dynatron should be the scientitist´s choice :)

Tutt, what if I will do is to make decent wave profile test using different levels of oil to be able to actually make a model out of the beam profile. What I was thinking if the amplitude should be seem forming different diameter circles at the surface of each oil level.

I use the Soundcare plus. Yes there are two transducers - you have to select between either the 1cm or the 5cm head. Unfortunately, you can’t run them both at the same time. When I initially purchased it, I thought I would use the 1cm head to focus more on the dorsal cord, and the larger one for more general heating, but I quickly discovered I only use the larger head because it heats the entire width of my penis which I feel is better. I unplugged the 1cm transducer and put it in storage. So in my opinion, I wouldn’t pay more to have two transducers, unless you CAN run them at the same time, but I haven’t found one that does that. With that said, the Soundcare plus is great. It does the job like a professional machine.

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Also the vacuum head has modification as I have mounted a female vacuum valve on tip of it. For producing vacuum LeLuv pistol pump with a gauge is used.

After many experiments I have found a set up with blue diaphragm and sluice to have minimum slippage with them. When vacuum is produced I remove the plastic ring off from sluice and let it float as a cock ring on the surface at edge of the sluice.

Hi

After my blister, I’m thinking to try out what worked for you - the Bib works OK for me, but it’s not perfect as I have to take breaks halfway. So I’d like to see if I can get the PMP to work for me as well. I have a pump already with what looks like the same female valve on it (on my cylinder it’s screwed into the end of the pump with a male thread and there is an o-ring where it meets the cylinder). I’ve been looking for a similar female thread to retrofit onto one of my PMP heads with but can’t seem to find the specific part on its own. Do you remember where you got yours from?

Thanks


Start: 6" BPEL x 5" EG (mid)

Current: 7.5" BPEL x 5.98" EG (average distal/mid/base shaft)

Goal: 8" BPEL x 6.5" EG (whole shaft)

Originally Posted by waterman888
Hi

After my blister, I’m thinking to try out what worked for you - the Bib works OK for me, but it’s not perfect as I have to take breaks halfway. So I’d like to see if I can get the PMP to work for me as well. I have a pump already with what looks like the same female valve on it (on my cylinder it’s screwed into the end of the pump with a male thread and there is an o-ring where it meets the cylinder). I’ve been looking for a similar female thread to retrofit onto one of my PMP heads with but can’t seem to find the specific part on its own. Do you remember where you got yours from?

Thanks

I have to warn you about the PMP. I tend to have blisters with it if I am not careful. With the inner diaphragm I can´t get the grip needed, and without it blisters come if I use too much heated rice sock or the stretching time gets too long. Otherwise the grip and seal is fine using two of those sleeve sluices one inside another, releasing only the inner one off from ring.

The female valve is LeLuv (which are not long living parts). Not much points for the quality. You should buy few of them to have spares.

There is no thread to connect it actually . The original connector failed and I fixed this one using my favorite DIY component, heat shrink tube. It has failed once as it started to leak but I re-fixed it.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

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