Part of a whole new perspective

Hello all,

I’ve been researching PE and considering making it a part of my “fitness” routine for over a year now. I am a very dedicated gym rat and look at PE as just another form of body exercise. Interesting actually.. I have read several threads where people ask “can I stop after reaching my goals?” etc. I really don’t think of it this way. I mean really.. I have committed to a lifestyle of fitness for muscle building and cardio health, so why should penis/sexual health be any different?

So.here is my story. I’m single (divorced) and currently have fairly good luck with women; however, I have recently had an experience that makes me realize some major changes are in order. I am very muscular but not that lean.also.my penis is an adequate 6.75” and I haven’t had many complaints; however, when I look back on my experiences with women.especially one particularly emotional breakup recently.I realize that I am just getting by when I could be so much more. I mean.I look OK and my penis is OK.Woman consider me to be intelligent and kind.even a bit dangerous and mysterious.the kind of man that they really enjoy keeping company with. They tell me I’m attractive and the sex is good to great (depending on the girl).I’m told my technique is amazing and my understanding of a woman’s body is almost unheard of.so.why am I not getting those oh-my-god you are the best I every had responses. Well.I’m telling you.it is simple.all that stuff is great and woman want it, but there are two things missing that tip the scales. You have to look great (not just good) and you have to be hung better than average. Woman are so polite about it.”you are fine”.. “I have no complaints”.”I don’t have issues with your size”, but when I have heard some women speak of other men.”oh my god he was huge”.”his cock was amazing”. I don’t know if it is physical or just psychological, but women do responds to the 8”+ cocks with serious lust. In addition, that rock hard body produces the same reaction. Ok.this has been long winded but I wanted to get this down.I am done being average or even a bit better than average. I have a good fitness ethic. I just need to expand it. I begins now.I will expand my gym routines.build that 10 hard body.I will do PE and achieve my goal of 8”.. It really is a war and I am now playing to win. It is all about balance and focus.I’m in.

Wish me luck.tomorrow I will take exact starting measurements and begin with the newbie routine. I am really glad for this forum.it seems like great place for support and counsel.

Hey man, I totally understand where you’re going with this, and I’ve been struggling to make the same sort of committment. Actually, I think reading this has given me enough reason to restart from the newbie routine and start hitting the gym hardcore. I think knowing that there’s someone out there going through the exact same thing that really helps. Thanks and Good Luck!

Thanks..

That is why I’m posting here. I figure alot of guys have the same experiences and it’s cool if we can help keep each other motivated. Man.I just hate getting lumped in with the “average”. I figure that about 3% of the men are getting about 90% of the great woman. I can get there.it just takes work!

I hear ya but I have once or twice got the “Holy Fuck”. I have a great body (I thank my x-girls for getting overweight because it made me go to the gym to set a good example), six pack abs, the whole bit. My negatives: I’m only 5’8” tall and my unit is only 6” bpel x 5.25 eg. Mind you, sometimes I think I blew it with a few one night stands when I was drunk and was swooning her with an unflattering flexible under average sweet pickle. Oh well. Anyway, the times that were really good were when I used my muscle to pick her up and dominate her (ex. push her against the wall or let her lay back while I’m standing and supporting her body with my arm). Also, I make alot of pleasure noises. That seemed to really work. Anywho, I’m no master but I think I may be on to something for those of us without balistic fucking missles.

Well I’m not much over 5’8” either but that has not been a real problem. Yes some women only want men who are 6’+ but I find plenty of women who’re in the 5’5” and shorter range that like my height just fine. As for the great bod and 6 pack abs, that is great. I have the muscle but need the definition. That kind of body will definitely get them into bed but it is the larger penis that makes them come back. Again, I think allot of it is psychological but in the end it makes no difference. My 6.75” gets good reviews, but it is the 7.5-8.0 guys who are getting chatted up when the girls get together. Even if I give them great Os, they seem to still want to be able to brag to their girlfriends about the big cock they slept with last night. If if didn’t believe it, I wouldn’t be starting PE. It took me while to even believe it would work. So many commercial web sites. I thought it was a scam and would just waste my time, but after finding Thunder’s place and a few other legit (not for $$$) sites, I have become a believer and am more than willing to put in the time.

It sounds like you have the bod and a good angle.I would say just hit the PE with the same dedication as your workouts.I don’t think you could loose.

Oh trust me 7seeks8, I just started PE but am putting dedication into it. I know that with a bigger rod I would get those screams I adore much much more. But, like you, I didn’t believe this stuff before either so I just concentrated on stuff I knew how to work on. The good thing, once I turned 30, most of the guys my age I hung out with began to lose their bodies as with many 30+ people. So now, women are much more impressed by me having a nice body. In my 20’s, I was just one of the crowd. Another thing, I know you say women talk about penis size to their friends and I know that’s true. However, I do know that many times penis size is exaggerated to their girlfriends in order to make them envious. One thing they can’t really exaggerate is whether you have a nice body or not. A picture speaks louder than words. If a woman can show you off without having to say a word about you, I believe that may keep her around or coming back to you. PE is much more tedious IMO than getting into shape. You are a lucky man for that. You’ve already got a good enough size and much closer to 8 than me. You lose that extra padding you say you have and you will be the man.

Well I truly agree with you guys that women dig Good looking men with great bodies and a super huge 8 + inch dick. I only wish we all could have all of it and life would be so much better. I’m not boasting when I write this but I’ve been a part time model , I work out in the gym so I have a good body and I have grown my dick to the size I always wanted it to be. Being a model I’ve been with some pretty Women . My experience says that it’s not just about looking nice or having a big dick. I’ve realised it’s more than that. This may seem weird but all women need to cared and loved. So if you wanna play casanova learn some soft skills. Learn what makes a woman happy. Make love to a woman the way she wants to be loved(fucked) . I agree this will come after some digging around . So if talk to your female friends and find out what they like while having sex.

Good bodies and big dicks come with dedication and hard work so keep working on it :-) I’m sorry if I sounded like Mr. Knowall but I’m just writing my opinions. Good luck

No, you are absolutely right. I’ve found in my experience also that if you want to have a long term relationship you need to fulfill a woman’s emotional needs much more than her sexual needs. However, if you want a girl to have you on her late night booty call phone list, you need to have something more than slow motion Barry White moves. She ain’t looking to slow dance. Long term relationships are great and I’m a committed to a woman now, but maybe I’m an oddball, I like purely sexual relationships better.

I agree completely that the “soft” skills are important as well. If you read my original post (top), you will see that these things are not the issue for me at all. Trust me, I understand sensitivity, and tender relationships. I have had first rate feedback from past lovers about all such things to include communication, understanding, and being open. The Problem: All these are great, but without the killer body, good looks, and big tool, this gets you labeled as “best friend” or “like a brother”. Ahhh! This was my lot in life for a long time. Once I started hitting the gym and getting quite muscular, this all changed. I am now also “dangerous”, “mysterious”, “sexy” and my personal favorite - “a fantasy”. OK guys.I hear you, but this stuff is not from me. I have heard this form women. So here I am.the better shape I’m in, the better the response and the more opportunity to use those “soft skills”. Loosing weight has reduced the fat pad and given me extra inches, but I still have a way to go. I have target goals to get body fat down to sub 10% (that should give me another effective inch) and use PE to get to the 8” mark. So there it is. Soft skills will help you get a date or keep a good relationship, but it is the body and dick that get you to the second date and let you have the opportunity to use those suave words..

A7S8

A ripped body definitely works wonders for picking up girls.

I never got any interest from girls mainly because I was 5”7, wore glasses and was pretty chubby.

I started kickboxing and general fitness and exercise about 3 months ago, and thanks to some pretty intense kickboxing and gym work, I’ve got a nicely defined 6 pack, with another 2 packs just waiting to be uncovered with some more running.

I was at a party/campout about 2 weeks ago, and after some drinking I took my shirt off, turns out some of the girls got some pictures of me topless. I met the said girls on the train two days ago on the way to another party and one asked me if I’d been hitting the gym. They both said that I was really buff and that if in a more private place they would rip my clothes off.

Now, I was on a public train, and I was desperately having to concentrate so I didn’t pop wood, it felt damn awesome to be considered hunky by two girls. Two cute girls..

So, I arranged to start running with one of the girls, and she was very keen on it. I can just imagine, running back to my house after a 30 minute run or so, and having her literally rip my clothes off and push me into the big walk in shower.

I mean, at my age, most guys are a good weight, none of them are chubby or fat as such, they’re all pretty skinny. But none of them have any real muscle definition, which girls really seem to go for. I’m probably the only guy from our friend group who has a bulging set of abs, pretty large biceps, and a perfectly firm ass.
It works so damn well, just get ripped, go to a party, and take your shirt off.

True A7S8 . A good body is definitely a magnet that attracts women to you. Apart from good body and soft skills I guess there is another important thing and that is your Level of CONFIDENCE. If you are at ease with yourself it becomes easy to put the other person to ease and believe me no one likes to be in an awkward position. I have a buddy who is average looking (he thinks the same) but he is good with the gals. I realised that he is just very confident about himself, Easy going and gutsy. He can approach anyone and talk to them like he has know them for ages. Call that breaking the ice.
Maybe you should work more on your confidence levels and see a difference ( I’m not assuming that you are inconfident) Good luck

Chow
GOD

It sounds to me that you are looking for women at the wrong places. I can’t believe that most women are that shallow. I wouldn’t take anything any of those women say serious. They certainly aren’t marriage material, so fuck em. Use them and throw them away. Those are the types of women that you would find mostly in Gyms and Bars. When you guys are interested in settling down, you need to look in other places.

True Graywolf! What about when you are not looking to settling down? I guess it’s good to have a great body and a great dick. No harm there. But I also believe that you shouldn’t work towards a good body & dick just to get the gals. IMO it’s more about maintaining good health and boosting your confidence so as to improve the other important aspects of your life.

Chow
GOD

Great body definitely helps getting them in the sack. After working out for 9 years I can tell both sides of the story.

I was stick thin and 7”, now I have a sprinters physique and carry 9”, guess what works the best?