PE and various supplements

Hello there, I’m not new about penis enlargement. I was lurking and posting on this forum around 2002/2003, doing exercises (hot-Wrap+jelq+stretches).

Now I have some daily privacy and I’m going to go back into the game.

In the while I got into nootropics/supplements, so I wanted some opinion about supplements + PE gains.
Especially regarding:

Dimethylethanolamine (DMAE, my favourite)
Piracetam/Aniracetam
Arginine+Lysine (Arginine quickens repair time of damaged tissue. Shouldn’t arginine be FUNDAMENTAL for PE gains?)
Yohimbine HCL
MDPV (Methylenedioxypyrovalerone), where still legal.

And:
FINASTERIDE/PALMETTO(Serenoa Repens): (are weaker erections and DHT lower levels COUNTER-PRODUCTIVE for PE gains?)

Thanks in advance.

Please use the search function, there are dozens of threads on this subject.

I tried, but it seems that (most of) the topics are not related to P.E.
They are instead about “MEN’S HEALTH”, especially about erection/prostate problems or brain boosting.

And nothing about Methylenedioxypyrovalerone

Second R Dopa. Search will take you far.

DMAE sounds like it has a mixed track record, according to the Wikipedia article: Dimethylethanolamine - Wikipedia
Piracetam is a brain booster; I’m not seeing anything there that would help with PE.
MDPV’s effects include vasoconstriction. That seems counterproductive for PE.

That leaves arginine, lysine, yohimbine and saw palmetto, all of which have been extensively discussed here. Some like arginine. Keep in mind there is more than one form of arginine.

Yeah isn’t MDPV an ecstasy analogue? I know it’s a psychoactive. Not sure why you’d think that would help you penis grow.

It is not an ecstasy analogue. It’s effects are more similar to Methylphenidate (Ritalin).
So it’s used by someone in low doses as study/concentration aid.
I wanted to know from somebody who uses/used it how much it can interfere with PE activity (Probably nobody, but hey I try).

Also, on some drugs forum, MDPV is said to have some sexual stimulant activity, from some users.

I’m into search, anyway. There are tons of threads, but you have to search good to find what you need :(

Ah ok. Well just about any psychoactive stimulant will usually increase sex drive. My understanding is that Ritalin, once absorbed in the body, basically becomes methamphetamine anyway, which definately (short term) increaes sex drive.

Use the Advanced Search for “Titles” in-case you were already doing so :)

DOH!! That’s why search was so disorganized.

Thanks!

How do you plan to take these supplements or think the may help in your routine?

DMAE - good nootropic, skeptical about it helping or hurting PE
Piracetam/aniracetam - I’ve been taking Piracetam for years, although I’ve never had the dramatic effects that some claim. But I know it works and may help stave off the effects of aging on my poor, addled brain. No effect on PE that I can think of.
Arginine+lysine - I’ve never been convinced that adding lysine to arginine does anything. Some people say that they are synergistic, but there’s also a lot of information which counters that. Arginine is good for sex, good for healing, and good for releasing NO2, which is good for vasodilation. However, bear in mind that arginine can make tumors grow faster. If you use it, don’t use the standard arginine hydrochloride, but use one of these (quoted from http://findarti cles.com/p/arti … 4/ai_n16113264/ )

* Arginine alpha-ketoglutarate (AAKG) Besides apparently improving uptake, the alpha-ketoglutarate molecule in AAKG is a precursor to another amino acid, glutamine, which the body can use to produce arginine. It’s like getting double the arginine in one dose.

* Arginine ketoisocaproate (AKIC) The ketoisocaproate part of AKIC has anticatabolic properties, meaning it helps to prevent muscle breakdown during strenuous exercise. It also plays a role in energy production and aids the removal of ammonia during workouts, which otherwise could induce muscle fatigue. Furthermore, in the body, ketoisocaproate gets converted to beta-hydroxy beta-methylbutyrate (HMB), which can increase muscle mass and prevent muscle breakdown.

* Arginine mallate This version contains malic acid, a molecule involved in energy production. Malic acid helps burn the lactic acid produced during workouts; the result is more energy for training.

* Arginine ethyl ester The latest arginine variation to make the scene, this is arginine with the addition of an acid and an alcohol. The ester group enhances an arginine molecule’s ability to pass across cell membranes, such as in the intestines—thus the easier absorption—as well as muscle cells.

Yohimbine can be good for sex, but I think it might be counterproductive with PE. It appears to be a vasoconstrictor, or at lest a renal vasocontrictor.

MDPV - no clue. Looks like it has some potential for abuse. I think I’d steer away from this one.

You should also go to the Cognitive Nutrition web site and check out L-Dopa and PEA among others. They could help with studies, along with sex drive.