Originally Posted by newyorktexan
I know some injected compounds have also been known to cause necrosis. Not good. But regardless, I view HA and similar subcutaneous fillers to be akin to breast “falsies” or even the old Kleenex in the bra trick by young girls: you’re not really growing, you’re just achieving a longer term version of “falsies.” Now, we here all have our own particular version of penis dysmorphia here, and everyone deserves happiness, but I would recommend first exhausting the traditional permanent structural methods archived here.
Girth is king some say, and especially among heterosexual partners, many report that width/girth/circumference has a more tangible effect on sexual pleasure (i.e. the being "filled up" and/or "stretched out" sensation), and those who enjoy being fun in the bedroom are going to be drawn to these types of benefits & advantages. And while you are right, everyone deserves happiness, it’s also responsible as a fraternal discussion community to point out the glaring dangers of DIY medical procedures. The "necrosis" you speak of is likely due to either poor injection technique creating blockages, needles (instead of cannulas) doing damage to internal vessels, nerves, and tissues, and so on. I suppose a really bad infection could also lead to a case of necrosis. I’m glad you cited this, all the more reason for anyone considering DIY medical procedures to take a step back and realize that if your penis (and its size) is that important to you, why even take the risk when it can be done in a setting (i.e. Doctor’s Office) that dramatically reduces ill-fated events.
Hyaluronic Acid (HA) has been used extensively in the body in Cosmetic Clinical settings with a strong efficacy profile. It’s actually a substance that’s naturally-occurring in your body, but is bio-engineered by medical-device companies to be cross-linked (and thus made suitable as a dermal filler for the purposes of creating volume). It isn’t a permanent filler, and the rate at which is breaks down/dissipates varies person-to-person, but it’s safe to say you’ll likely see annual maintenance (one a year appointments) to keep your desired size (or to add to it). The trade off for the non-permanence is that if you aren’t happy with the results, it’s not going to last forever, and to some extent can be reversible. I personally wouldn’t characterize them as "falsies" because unlike the "Kleenex in the bra trick," your penis is being enlarged (depending on the filler or method) through natural means, which even includes the creation of collagen and elastin (even if negligible compared to more permanent fillers like PMMA). The HA and the gel-like nature of the filler (of an already naturally occurring substance in your body) is providing you volume through means that trigger bodily mechanisms like water retention to aid in the creation of new size. These are real gains, not fake.
There are other temporary and permanent options which I think are viable as well, all having their pros & cons. I will note however that there are still some questionable methods being pushed somehow despite its long standing reputation of botchery, poor reviews, and questionable ethics, namely silicone implants (not those used for erectile dysfunction, but primarily for size enhancement) and silicone oil. Both are pushed & marketed heavily by two specific quacks which I will not name here, and unfortunately they’ve both (while having no association with each other) have convinced a handful of other physicians to employ these demonstrably poor methods of penis enlargement — so know you’ve been warned.
I do agree that "free" methods ought to be considered and/or exhausted first, but there is no denying that there are certain men (3 Groups in fact that I can think of) that can justify the aesthetic medical side of PE —> (1) the genuinely hard-gainers, who no matter how committed and how "correct" their regimens are, they either see no gains, painfully slow & incremental gains, or gains that simply don’t cement; (2) the legitimately "under-endowed" and "statistically thin" by which even modest gains through the traditional methods you speak of aren’t sufficient, much less guaranteed, to provide them the kind of gains needed not just to get out of the Snugger Fit condoms, but to entertain Magnum and beyond; and (3) guys who simply don’t have the time and/or privacy to undergo the rigors required to achieve gains, while simultaneously having a healthy amount of disposable income.
Dermal fillers (non-surgical) and tissue grafts (surgical) have come a long way in both success rates, the reduction of complications (largely by identifying what caused them in the first place after many years of trial & error dating back to the 90s, especially with the surgical stuff), and I think they have far exceeded what I considered to be my initial skepticisms in terms of what was safe and effective. Heck, one could argue that PE exercises possess inherent dangers, especially when there is no standardized methodology, leading to a variance in intensity, frequency, and technique, all of which if done poorly can lead to injury, sometimes irreparable (or unseeable until years after). I’m not trying to fear-monger, in fact I have used PE exercises myself to achieve length in the past and I enjoy pumping from time-to-time, however I say what I say to point out that the only advantage with manual/organic PE practices with respect to girth is that they are virtually free (minus the cost of any sort of traction or pumping device involved, which is usually negligible when compared against medical procedures).
This is certainly not for everyone, and no procedure is without risk, no matter how "relatively safe," "straight forward," & "outpatient" many of these procedures can be, which is why I’ll reiterate again how NOT WORTH IT it is to try and perform a medical procedure on yourself. I know I’ve been uneasy about "Chemical PE" which are supplemental/chemical injections that help induce erections among other things, but I’ve let it slide because it’s been a long-standing topic with the potential to point anyone researching in the right direction, and doesn’t appear to be nearly as complication-ridden as DIY medical procedures.
This is not my site/forum, so I don’t make the rules regarding this topic, but I hope you can see that my advice stems from having owned & operated a site (PhalloBoards dot com) that speaks about fillers & penis enlargement at length, with the next best/closest sources being places like Thunders or Reddit with very sporadic & sparse information, likely authored by those without the necessary credentials. In other words, my warnings & advice are immensely informed by virtue of my role in the online PE scene, and not meant to be judgmental or scathing — it’s in my best interest to do my best to mitigate any normalization of these kinds of experimentation(s), not just (sincerely) for your health’s sake, but to ensure the narrative surrounding these fillers aren’t marred by stories & rumors of consequences that are typical of DIY medical procedures. I hope my transparency in this regard goes the extra mile not only to the original poster, but to all others (i.e. lurkers) who have contemplated the same risky avenues of PE.
At 2500-3000 Euros, you really ought to consider it not just an investment in your penis, but an insurance with respect to risks, complications, and consequences. To be frank, if 2500-3000 Euros annually to acquire a fatter cock using a medical-grade dermal filler is outside your budgeting, you may find that improving your revenue/income flow to work more wonders for your confidence (and partner acquisition) than short-cuts with size enhancements. I say this truly respectfully because that price point for the volume provided (assuming the injection work is of good or high quality) is a VERY GOOD VALUE considering current market value/trends in this arena of cosmetic medicine. It just seems like you’re better reallocating this focus & desire for a larger penis into your overall livelihood and future, which will in turn allow you to be a regular recipient of regulated HA through the hands of an experienced injector. I hope that isn’t a condescending piece of advice, but when I said earlier that these kinds of procedures aren’t for everyone, it also implied disposable income (including subsequent annual budgeting for at least once-a-year appointments) in addition to means to address complications monetarily should your health insurance fail to cover everything. Now imagine a major DIY complication (which by the very nature of being something you aren’t qualified to do will increase the odds of complications considerably), you’ll find the costs of specialty treatments (example: Urologists who understand the issues at hand) will cost considerably more in the long run when compared to Clinical costs (vs. DIY costs); heck, even if you happen to live in a European country where virtually all possible complications are covered, you’ll still find yourself at considerably higher odds of having to undergo recovery because of this cavalier endeavor. Food for thought.
Can it work and have others done this kind of thing successfully? Yes, but often times they involved people who had prior experience with injections (e.g. Nurses, EMT’s, among others) and success stories are so far & few that whatever "Guide" you found online (even if very accurate) won’t necessarily mean you’ll perform it as adequately as needed or intended.
This was originally a response to user "newyorktexan," but I felt compelled to double down on my PSA because I realized now that it wasn’t just the original poster who needed to hear/see this. You ultimately decide what it is you wish to do, but it just seems so needlessly reckless when HA girth is so accessible at the best price points (in the face of inflation) for as long as I’ve followed it: we’re in the Golden Age of Modern Injectable Phalloplasty and you’d rather wing it… well, respectfully I will not support or condone it, but I will wish you the best in whatever it is you decide to do regardless.
