Rest or Rehab?

Hey man,

Sorry I keep hounding you, but to be honest so far this place has been better than my Urologist appointment..
I was kinda wondering what could’ve happened physically to cause my penis injury. I know it’s over stretching but I mean more on an anatomical level. I know your experience is far more than mine so I thought I would drop you another line. My guess is a strain to the tunica albuginea. What do you think? Is there a known part of the penis that gets over strained from stretching? What part would that be? And is it good at healing?

Thanks again for the help :)

Sorry TT that is way out of my wheelhouse. There are others here that are much more knowledgeable on the anatomical aspect and maybe one of them will chime in.

First off just want to clarify, what is a spontaneous erection?. Is it any type of erection that happens without physical stimulation? If not, then what is it exactly? Would you say it’s the last thing to come back after an injury?

Thanks

Hey 32quarters, back when I was really researching the P-Shot, I saw that using a pump twice per day for ten minutes for 6 weeks was part of the treatment plan. I also saw that the instructions were to use the pump up to 10 on the gauge!! According to “Thunders Place” that’s insane.. How did you use the pump after the treatment? If you choose not to go up to ten does it make the treatment less effective?

I think I need to give a little background so my answer will make sense. My entry into to PE is from my ED. My ED manifested itself basically overnight as one day I could get zero erection. I panicked, did a little research, found out about the p-shot, went to my doctor who suggested Gainswave first then p-shot later if I thought I still needed it. As part of the Gainswave treatment I was to pump twice a day for 10 min at -10inHG, so I did.

The GW treatment worked, I kept pumping. I didnt know any better about pressures but I did not have any issues. It wasnt until I did research, found Thunders, did more research, that I realized that the higher pressure can cause issues for lots of guys. Guess I was lucky in this case.

Hey man, I understand thanks for the info, just wanted to clarify so in case I get the procedure I will stay below 5

Have you tried l citrulline? It’s a supplement that creates Nitric Oxcide that fuels the cells in smooth muscles and dilates veins for more blood flow, it’s a part ingredient found in viagra so make sure it does not conflict with any medication you might take.

Spontaneous erections are located around the last 4 spinal cord segments on the lower back, if you stand up arch backwards, clentch buttocks and pretend to pee you can usually activate it, I can do it as a bedroom trick, careful to not actually pee hahaha iv had that happen to me too but somewhere between the two feelings I start to feel the build up that leads to rock hard without the feelings anymore, it never works with an empty bladder for me which is frustrating as when I achieve erection all I can think about is taking a piss so its like a struggle to get it back down so I can relieve myself but wanting to stay hard but never the same after the pee.

You could possibly look into why your body doesn’t produce sufficient NO as a factor otherwise its probably physical instead of chemical, or other factors like a weak ischiocavernosus or bulbocavernosus muscle that restricts the blood flow to keep the penis erect.

Long time ago I read about plaque when I was going through my injury that calcium was the culprit and vitamin K helps reduces it as preventative measures.

Please do your own research as both these supplements mentioned can be deadly if combined with medication or other supplements

Hope this helps

Hey 32quarters,
How would you compare an annual P-Shot to on going treatment with Cialis for ED? Correct me if I’m wrong. From what I’ve read the P-Shot is regenerating new blood vessels for increase blood flow but Cialis is bringing more blood through blood vessels that are already there. Which has worked best for you?

TT- I’m going to refer you to my progress thread to provide my history with the p-shot. Here’s the link:
32quarters progress

I had a p-shot a week ago and it was a 1 year maintenance refresher. As you can read in my progress thread I had positive results from the p-shot in treating my curve. I viewed the annual refresher shots as insurance- no downside and maybe a little upside. Other than the first shots I have not experienced any significant results from them, and so far have not from this latest one. Maybe a slight change in sensitivity, but that is not an issue for me. This is very likely the last time I will have this treatment.

I do think others have also had positive results from them so I do not discount their value as a treatment. I have found a treatment set that works for me and a p shot is not a critical part of it. They are pricey.

I take 5mg tadilafil (cialis) daily. If I don’t take it for a few days I do see a drop off in performance. It is a necessity for me.

Gainswave provided an extremely positive result and I now own my own eswt machine and try and stay on a regular treatment cycle. It is also a necessity for me. It knocked the ED back and keeps my dick functioning.

The c-ring tied all my treatments together and provides me consistency and confidence. I have only had one failure to perform since using the c ring, and I think The real issue was that I had overtrained PE that day. I try and manage my training schedule better.

We have great sex daily, frequently twice daily, way more than I ever would have expected to for someone at my age. I attribute that ability to regular eswt treatments, daily cialis and using a c ring.

Can you give me a link or the name of your eswt unit? Are you satisfied with your eswt unit? Do you know of any good resources to become more educated about how to use these?

Just to clarify, but it is important to understand that an ESWT unit, also called LI ESWT, is different than the ultrasound units that some guys use for adding heat.

I bought my unit on Alibaba and it is a Lingmei SW10 unit. I have over 350,000 pulses with it, which is about one third of its life cycle. A single treatment consists of between 3,000 to 5,000 pulses. I have not had any issues and am well pleased with it.

Truthfully, many of the Chinese units look just alike and have the same specs no matter which “company” you get them from. I’m guessing they all use the same plans and just put their company name on it.

Some useful links are:
Shockwave DIY
and
Cheap Shockwave (p. 2)

Hope this helps.

Very helpful posts 32.

What settings do you use on your machine?

If you read through the various medical articles and watch any of the youtube videos you will see there are multiple treatment procedures which have shown to be beneficial. Some are low energy, low pulse count, others are high energy high, pulse count, and the application location also changes. Some say top of penis, some say side, some say keep the wand moving constantly and others say base, middle and just under the glans.

I have tried many of them and also had benefit from them all, but I always come back to the same treatment, which works for me.

My basic treatment is energy set to 90mJ with the 10mm head and frequency of 12 Hz. I treat each side at base, middle, top with 500 pulses, 1500/side, then treat each crura for 500 pulses. Often I’ll hit the crura for 1,000 each side, but that is an uncomfortable position (squatting horse stance) for me so it gets only 500. Total treatment is 4,000 pulses. I’ll move the wand around a little so it’s not totally locked into one spot.

I’ve gone as high as 120mJ and frequency of 15Hz and as any as 10,000 pulses, not necessarily all these settings for the same treatment.

My stated treatment frequency is twice weekly for 3 weeks, then take 2 months off for recovery, but I don’t strictly adhere to this. I may get one a week then skip a couple of weeks as other things get in the way. In the over 18 months I’ve had my unit I’ve never gone more than 3 months between treatments. I have accepted that this is a requirement for me for life as ED is not curable.