Should Improving EQ Come before Increasing Size?

I was one month into PE until I started coming down with COVID-19 recently, which has shot my EQ to hell and made jelqing impossible for two weeks now. So, I’m likely restarting from near zero again once this blows over, which means I’m reevaluating what I’ve been doing right or wrong for when I resume. In particular, I’ve been wondering about whether it is better to improve EQ before working on increasing size; or does improvement in EQ in the experience of most here accompany gains in length and/or girth? From what I’ve gathered thus far, I’m guessing many people here would say to work on size, and the EQ will follow.

Still, I’ve been watching educational videos by the owner, Mike, of a (non-scammy, from what I can tell) PE product site, and he makes what seems to me a good point. He says that PE is like a pyramid that must be built in layers: hardness first, stamina second, and size last. The argument is that if your starting EQ is poor or mediocre, you can’t maximize (or even really know) the full size potential of what you already have. His recommendation, then, is to improve your well-being enough to increase hardness if you are not already operating at 100% most of the time. Otherwise, you will just be generating more volume in the penis that will have to be filled by a body in the same sub-par condition as the one that cannot fill the current volume. Not only does he see size gains before EQ as not helping in this case, but he thinks it could make the latter worse.

Once the hardness is in place, then Mike argues that stamina comes next if you’re lacking in that department as well. Only after that does working on size then make sense.

From what I have been reading at Thunder’s Place, however, there are a lot of personal testimonies suggesting that EQ, including both hardnesss and stamina, improved while doing PE for size gains.

What are people’s thoughts and experiences on this issue? I can see a reasonable argument to be made for both cases, but I’m still just a newbie. Should I follow Mike’s advice and get the EQ maxed out before doing anything about size, or should I keep calm and follow the newbie routine?

PE routines are easier if you aren’t getting hard during them. Sounds like this guy is putting theories out that don’t have the years of research that thundersplace has.

It all really depends on your goal. A good manual routine can grow size and help with erection quality. Hanging heavy can decrease EQ but the potential for length gains increases. It’s why a lot of the large gainers supplement with cialis.

A well-rounded routine will help all of the above simultaneously rather than focusing on them sequentially.

Who’s Mike?

The general answer here is ‘every penis is different’.

Hanging with light weights and zero manual exercises solved my ED issues and left me with a larger unit.

Think he is the total man shop owner

Correct—I didn’t mention his business’s name because I did not want to appear to be shilling.

To be clear, he is not saying that one should be erect while doing PE. I understand him to be saying that the benefits of PE will only really come to an already healthy penis that can reach full erection, so one should work on the latter first.

No worries. I’ve recommended his vac hanger in my threads.

I looked at his plan as a newbie and passed. His assessment of what is ‘active’ and ‘passive’ PE is just plain wrong.

That was my impression from what I’ve read here thus far, but I figured I’d ask the question directly just to make sure. Everyone’s responses above are in agreement on this point, so that’s good.

My goals are size and EQ, but also reducing my annoying left curve. Seriously, just getting rid of that alone would gain me a half inch or more without actually getting longer. I bought an ADS that hopefully will help target that specific problem.

Good to know. I had already seen the heating pad, all-day stretcher, and new extender frame from TMS recommended here, so I bought a few things during a recent sale and checked out the video series while I was at it—which is what prompted this thread.

Yeah, like I said, it sounded sensible to me, which is why it gave me pause; but it didn’t seem, well, necessary. It’s too much of a “waterfall” approach from a project perspective, where no progress on the next stage can be made until the prior stage is completed. Sticking with the project planning language, I want concurrent development of my goals if I can get them.

I have a natural upward and left curve as well.

I havnt had a woman complain, and even found that most can/will enjoy themselves if I stroke accordingly and take more time in certain positions (missionary, legs up, legs together in almost any position, and particularly her laying on her right side. The upward and left emphasis really seems to create more friction when she’s on her right side with legs together.)

I’m honestly looking forward to a bigger guy while still keeping the natural curves.

Just my two cents

Onward
-BW

Oh, it doesn’t seem to bother my wife at all—or at least she doesn’t say so. She doesn’t give me a lot of feedback, and I have to read what is working and not working for her more from her body language in the heat of the moment.

It’s more of a thing I don’t like, to be honest. I find it bothersome, especially because it seems to limit positions to some extent. It looks odd, too, but there’s only one other person who sees that beside me.

There’s no upward component to my curve. It’s mostly just to the left with a slight twist down. I know getting rid of it completely is unlikely, but it sure would be a nice extra to gain from PE from a personal satisfaction perspective to reduce it.

I was lamenting how hard it is to jelq with a high libido.

Ah—I definitely read it wrong. That makes more sense!