WOW.doesn't this make you wanna quit P.E. even before you start.

Hey,

We can’t save them all…

John, I don’t think you’re being honest here.
No one has to do a donation here. This is a free site.
And you’ve said everything allready, your posts aren’t deleted, right? No shame then :)

I don’t need to know about how PE works (the scientific explanations;anatomy), neither to see it’s benefits, nor to persuade others about the techniques. If it works, it’s a FACT, and it’s a fact I’ve seen for myself.

What you meant was: thunder (and all the others) may be lying about PE to get the donations. You stated this in your previous post. Right? That is unkind.

John:

I didn’t take exception to your posting about the possibility that PE might not work. I agree somewhat on this. It certainly does not work for everyone, and who knows, it may not work permanently for any of us.

I myself have made some awesome gains. The reason I know this is, I have a bit of an amateur porn hobby. I like to film my dick in the hands of the women in my life. I have done this for many years with many different women. When I look at the difference in size of my dick now in some of the same hands and mouths that I filmed it in three years ago it looks like someone else’s dick. I don’t put too much faith in ruler measurements. Like Bib said, measurements are like the stock market, up and down. They vary from how hard your erections are and how fat or thin you are, and by how hard you push the ruler. But my video collection does not lie, and I’m pretty sure Mrz. G’s hands and mouth are not getting smaller. It’s true I’ve lost a lot of weight in the last few years, and that adds to the illusion, but even in spite of that there is no doubt in my mind that my total penile volume has increased drastically.

I’ll be the first to admit that all these gains might go away if I ever stop PE completely. That’s the problem and the only reasonable doubt for me; because I can’t stop, so I don’t know for sure that my gains are permanent. But I do know that even if they are not, it requires very little maintenance to keep my dick looking the way it looks. For me, three ten minute sets a day in a clamp or in a tube at 10 inhg would do it. So like West, I believe it was, has said before, “that’s permanent enough for me.”

The thing that bothered me about your post was saying T. makes money off this site, and the insinuation that we don’t push safety here. Those two ideas are ridiculous.

And as far as the hazards of PE are concerned, hell in ten years all of our dicks may fall off, but if this happens, you can’t say we didn’t warn people.

BG-

You mean we shouldn’t be grateful to all those good people who come here to save us from our own damn foolishness?

Aw nuts.

Yes, well, I’m reminded daily of the dangers by this nice lady doctor, but so far it must not have sunken in, because I wearing a clamp as I type this from her computer.

Alice is the biggest joke to ever grace the internet.

Poooooser.

I’ve only read the last page of this thread and whoever John is based on what I get from the conversation here is wrong for many reasons. PE does work, it might not work for people who don’t put a lot of effort into it like anything else in life or another reason PE might not work for some people is they haven’t studied the information all over this site enough or maybe they are not blessed with the perfect genetics (even though I still believe anyone can still make good gains in a reasonable amount of time - hard gainer or easy gainer), maybe they don’t take rest time enough to allow healing and gains to occur, maybe they overtrained there dicks, maybe they need to increase the intensity of there PE because there dicks adapted already to the stress. You see how many reasons there are why some people don’t gain and don’t believe in PE and then they give up and spread the word that PE doesn’t work to other people!?! It’s kinda funny in a way.

PE is no doubt real my friend. We are just all pioneers here figuring this out.

How come they always give the muscle respomse, what about the ligaments, and inner penis that we can all feel. Let them explain that, and let them tell bib and yguy you can’t gain.