Yet another jelqing question

Vets, I know there are several jelqing questions in circulation at the moment - well probably always. :D But I think I have a different version of the jelqing question.

- When someone is trying to jelq at a certain erection level: Should an erection be had?

I see that certain guys watch porn to keep a partial erection. Whereas I start at completely flaccid and continue to jelq and/or kegel in enough blood to get to the engorgement level that I am after.

I think starting with an actual erection vs what I am doing are possibly very different.

Does it matter? Or is either interchangeable?

It honestly doesn’t matter. If you were to end up at the same erection level it is the same thing. The only difference is if your counting doing flaccid jelqing as part of your actual jelq routine. If that is true then the person starting out with the erection you are aiming for is getting a better routine because it is going to be longer. It also then goes by if you believe that higher erection jelqs equal higher gains.

I do the same thing you do to get myself to the erection I want but honestly I just do it because I feel that jerking off isn’t really a routine and jelqing with kegeling can get me to where I want to be and I feel more professional about doing it lol. Though I do not start counting my jelqs until I reach my destination erection.

It has been said: jelq at low erection give length gain, higher erection for girth. So you still can count the reps at low erection since it still an effective PE exercise.

Girth is my main target, so I do the same like john, start couting when the erection comes, even if I loose my erection at the middle game, I will not count.

Thanks guys.

OK, now I have a question about how hard to jelq?

Meaning, how hard should the pull out stage be (if that makes sense)?

The last couple of days my erections haven’t been as strong as they should be. And since I have only been jelqing lately, I can only really link it to possibly pulling out a little too much during jelqing. Is this possible?

About how forcefully should someone be pulling out while jelqing? I am sure that would vary depending the level of erection someone is shooting for, but any guideline would be good.

Do you mean how hard you should squeeze? If that’s the question, then I’d say YES, squeezing too hard gives problem to maintain the erection, and sometime it caused pain on the head.
I do overhand U grip (sometime O grip to push little more blood into the head), and this way I can squeeze little harder at both sides (left-right), and according to Westla, this is more effective jelq for girth gain.

Or maybe you mean the pull at the head on every stroke? I read somewhere, it mentioned if you jelq at lower erection, milk downward and pull at the end of the stroke, it helps lig stretch, while at higher erection, milk upward (penis towards chin), and hold tight at base, it works at tunica.

Well, hope someone with better knowledge will answer the questions in more detail.

That is more what I meant, I guess. Not how hard to squeeze, I think I have that right.

I jelq straight out and that would work more tunica, right? My inner penis (behind the balls) is a little sore, so I guess it is tunica. So is it possible to pull too hard during the outward phase of the jelq?

Is this individual to me, and/or should I dial it back during the outward stroke of the jelq?

Should I just be casually moving outward? Or should I be trying to have a mild, decent/fair, or significant amount of pull on the outward move of the jelq?

No one has an opinion on this ^?

What I do (not that it would do anything for you) ,But I start limp and jelq it up to a certain stage of plumpness. This I consider jelqing my length.

When It gets to plump/erect, I do a couple 440’s and uli’s.

Which really fattens it up. Then I will work it to full erection and lightly stroke it just to keep it there for circulation purposes.

After a minute or so, I let it start to go down. Once I hit approx. 75-80% erection level, I jelq again.

But this time it goes toward girth.

So in a way, I’m working both aspects in the same (divided) session.

I do the same thing. While I am working my way up to a certain engorgement, I consider that length jelqing. Then, after I begin to get thicker during the session (and it is more difficult to go back to say 40% erect) I consider that for girth, too.

But I am wondering about how hard I should be pulling during the outward motion on jelqing? Right now I am on an extremely abbreviated routine, and the last couple of days my erections weren’t what they should be.

When I say abbreviated, I don’t do manual stretches because I seem to not be able to stretch without putting pressure on, or pulling on the head.

I only jelq for 3 minutes!! And on top of that, I don’t do 2 days on, 1 off, like the Newbie routine recommends. I am now doing 1 on, 2 off. Today would be a training day but my unit is like a wet noodle?

I was doing a 1 on, 1 off routine but that seemed to be a bit much at times. So I went to 1 on, 2 off, yet here I am today, with my unit still seeming to be a bit too overworked.

That is why I asked if it is possible to be pulling out too hard on the outward motion of the jelq?

That is the only thing I can think of. Maybe I am consciously, or subconsciously, pulling out too hard to try to compensate for not being able to manual stretch, since I would like to add length. Does any of that seem to make sense?

How hard should I be pulling out during the outward motion of the jelq (as best is it’s possible to explain), mild, decent/fair, or a significant amount? It would seem that the obvious answer is to do less than I am currently doing. But I am not sure I can do much less than I already am and still consider that I am training?

Any advice would be appreciated.

No one has an opinion on these things?

Man, is this really unknown/uncharted territory or offensive?

For girth better stay above 50% erect

What do you mean by “HOW HARD”? The squeeze or the energy you put to pull? Try using different strength when you squeeze, you should not feel any soreness on the skin, you should feel significant amount of blood flowing towards you shaft and head, you should see you shaft and head are expanding on every stroke.

When I do jelq, I don’t push/pull outward very hard. If I use U grip, I squeeze harder, If I use OK grip, I don’t squeeze so hard, or I will feel pain at my the my head.

meiya777,

Thank you very much my friend for your insight and experience. I was beginning to think this thread could only be seen by me.

- What do you mean by “HOW HARD”? The squeeze or the energy you put to pull?

I meant the energy to pull out with.

- If I use OK grip, I don't squeeze so hard, or I will feel pain at my the my head.

I use the OK grip. But I don’t have any problems with pain in the glans.

- you should feel significant amount of blood flowing towards you shaft and head, you should see you shaft and head are expanding on every stroke.

I feel that.

But since I can’t manual stretch very well, I think I might have been putting too much force into the outward stroke of the jelq to compensate. How forceful should the the outward move be - mild, decent/fair, or a significant amount?

Thanks meiya.

-Tiv

Just experiment with the types of stress you put your unit on.

If your unit is sore now and looks like a “wet noodle”. You’ve probably given it too much.
Take a rest till everything feels good to go. :)

Start again, and use what you’ve learned from the previous sessions of PE.
More force doesn’t always mean more gains. More like more chance of injuries.

I say go for a decent amount of outward force. But “decent” is variable. Differs from person to person.

You probably know what’s best for yourself, go with that. :)

Dupon,

Thanks my friend.

- If your unit is sore now and looks like a “wet noodle”. You've probably given it too much.
Take a rest till everything feels good to go.

I am no longer sore, but my erections aren’t what they should be just yet.

- Just experiment with the types of stress you put your unit on.
Start again, and use what you've learned from the previous sessions of PE.

That is what I was thinking, too. I just asked because there probably is a generality that works for most guys, that is why I was asking for a baseline.

- More force doesn't always mean more gains. More like more chance of injuries.

I agree with that. Like I said, I think I was trying to compensate for not being able to manual stretch very well. I will have to dial it back a bit on the jelq. And then I am thinking I might transition into to very light hanging for a single set of say 3-5 minutes (a program that would mirror the Newbie routine in principle).

- I say go for a decent amount of outward force. But “decent” is variable. Differs from person to person.

I agree that decent would be interpreted differently by different guys, so I know that would be read different by everyone. But like said, I think I was trying to do a two-in-one exercise because of my problems with manual stretching (I can’t quite do it without putting too much pressure on my glans and tweaking a nerve).

But I will interpret ‘decent’ as dialing it back a bit from what I was doing, so your post was definitely helpful.

Thanks Dupon. :)

-Tiv