A Urologist’s View of Turtling

I’d rather be a snapping turtle than a tortoise, though. No wait, I want to be one of those Galapagos turtles.

Can I please hi-jack this thread to ask whether I should be doing bed fowfers even on rest days? :D

Now to un hi-jack. BG, I read your “Don’t measure it, weight it” thread a day or so ago and it was very useful, what with the “healing when elongated” stuff, and the things about flaccid gains. I will definitely try to take this into account because for me, PE is just as much (if not more) a practical thing than a sex life improvement thing. As a small guy, my unit used to turtle a lot and stick out like a weeny boner. I hated that. And of course there was the issue of pissing fully clothed in a public lavatory with a small turtled dick; the preperation for this task causes one to resemble Houdini trying to escape from a straightjacket. But this winter has been probably the first one ever where I have barely had to worry about turtling. That has been brilliant. And no doubt next winter will be even more brilliant.

So thanks for all the advice. I would question the doc’s assertion about gains not outweighing dangers, though. When penis enlargement serves an actual practical purpose, as it does for me, I look upon it as definitely worth the risk. My life overall is much easier now that I have something approaching normal hanging between my legs. Perhaps for someone who’s already significantly over average, it wouldn’t be worth it, but I think she made a bit of a blanket statement there.

Id say my dick is a ninja turtle actually. When Im most erect and extended Im barely over 6”X5” but when its cold out, or I’m nervous or I haven’t had enough water, my dick turtles to like 3”! Like one time back in highschool I was eating at a dennys and these fuckin pigs approached me and my friends and wanted to search us for weed because one of us left the pipe out in plain view in the car. They must have followed their noses, but anyway I somehow avoided them and ran to the restroom to take a piss while I dumped my bud, and when I pulled my dick out to pee he had almost pulled entirely inside my body! So I pulled the gopher out the hole and he screamed in pain. Talk about stress.

Maybe turtling is necessary for proper tissue repair and rebuild. The body knows what is best for itself. Penis enlargement is a long process. If rushed unnaturally (not allowing the penis to turtle) perhaps you are hampering your long term growth for short term results.

Hi guys!

First of all, let me tell you all that it was a very interesting thing, to have the opportunity to read your opinions on such an important issue like turtling.

Now I have a question for you, for those who do something “not to turtle”, for you that run away from turtling. What do you do? How do you do? Which are your favourite methods? Also, what are/were your gains?

I just thought we should re-start the discussion here, because I think this topic really deserves it.

G

I wrap a 1.5” wide x 16” long length of bandage as low to the base as I can get it, then put a 1.25” wide by 8” long strip of theraband over that, held by tape. It is just snug; easy to still urinate with it on, but stops retraction.

It would be impossible to say what this has contributed to gains, but it certainly helps flaccid hang and prevents turtling.

So this is perfectly normal and happens to everyone? I turtle when taking a dump and when your hanging pretty good after a session it’s a b*tch.

What about a cock ring after a PE session? I have to be honest, I’ve never tried it, but should it work on increasing your flacid gains?

G

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You will find girtha, if I recall uses PE weights, essentially metal rings covered in rubber or plastic (to avoid metal poisoning on your cock) around the head all day every day.

It just keeps the dick that half an inch longer that you need to give a good pull.

I’m a bit affraid of trying something so “extreme” (at least, that’s what it sounds to me… anyway, the whole concept of PE should sound extreme to so many of us, and we’re still into it).

Flacid gains are, definitely, one of my goals, because I have what I use to call a baby penis, when flacid. It usually turtles a lot, and now more than ever with all the PE I’ve been doing.

I’m not quite sure what I’m trying next… I also read the peforeal thread about wrapping the penis after a workout.

G

I am going threw this right now.after seemingly some gains in girth,I been doing it for about 2 to 3 weeks now.but not very intensly or regularly.maybe 15 jelqa a day and then stretching.then I got “serious” and really did it,I experienced Extream turtling were my penis turned into a popcorn shrimp.I gave it a day of rest and when I had erections I uli’d and kegeled(pumped?) till I lost my erection.now it has withdrawn into the fat pad and is very cold,It is hot as hell here but I have the heater on to relax it.

I think what might be happening is I’m brusing myself when uli’ing although I only do it till it creats a non-painful tension around the base to trap the penis at a tense state(the objective for girth,smooth muscle right?) hot showers don’t really do it.it gets ‘erect’ constantly,it’s like pripism,but these erections are smaller and colder and retracted mostly inside of me.

I thought about stretching because I was thinking the same as big girtha,That if I let it retract it will “Heal” more inward,and then I would be in a loop with stretching.I seem to have lost some length when doing a flacid stretch and even my absolute flacid is thinner then normal.

I am taking a few aspriine now hoping in will reduce any potential inflamation and allow blood to flow smoother.

Now I been thinking about what this means to the PE routine.prehapes I should be pulling out stretching now threwout the day to make sure it doesn’t HEAL shorter?

Thats another thing my penis feels rubbery,and less um sensative, iu wouldn’t say numb just were I could run my nail across my skin before I felt it very sharp,now I feel it less,

Is this just the ‘toughening’ of the skin talked about?

I am also wondering if I should be edging(in this case simple having erections and kegeling,or flexing the erections) while healing,kegeling pulls the penis inward,prehapes kegeling when healing causes it also to retract,were at first I thought erection+kegeling would mean better results as the trauma area is being flush with rich blood,and the expanded shape is being filled.but My erection state is at it’s very hardest about 1/3 as small as my previous erection state,which is weird as I read the hardness was due to the smooth muscle expanding into the limits of the tunica.so if it is smaller yet still rock hard then what does this mean?that the tunica has SHRUNK?!

Prehapes part of the turtling phenomenom is caused by a contraction of the tunica which creats periphreal pressure that compliments to the muscular retraction?in which cause is the stretching I have done to expand the tunica(which it WAS working,bigger,longer)all gone having the tunica contracted in a toughening “DEFENSE” to the trauma of the jelqing/stretching?

Or are all of these temporary and the tunica will relax giving back it’s original side plus a little more room for soft muscle,in which case I would assume that the soft muscle would expand from the previous trauma of the uli’ing?

I have searched the forums(and others) and find that there is no real definitive understanding of this or everyone has their own openions

Great post BG.

Funny seeing this thread pop up after so long. Glancing back over what I said, I pretty much feel the same on everything except, I don’t think you have to beat your dick to death for gains. In PE less is definitely more. Common sense here: A little bit of PE on a regular basis is more valuable than a lot of PE every once and a while. But I still stick by my sig, despite the good doctor’s advice: Do Everything, and Never let it Turtle.

I’ve gotten pretty much the same response from 2 different MDs with whom I’ve discussed PE (though neither of them is a urologist). They both see “gains” as damage. I wrote more about this in detail in one of the 2 PDFs in my sig.

Wad. PE reminds me of a line from the movie, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind:

“Doc will this cause brain damage?”

“Well, actually the treatment IS brain damage, but no more than a night of heavy drinking.”