An Excellent Cross Section

You’ll see that the tunica is dense - and is comprised of two layers - the inner circular layer & the outer longitudinal layer.
If you look closely at the image, you’ll see that the bottom - the Corpus spongiosum - is not really compromised by much tunica.

Also, if you look at the top of the penis, you’ll see the Dorsal nerve, the Deep dorsal vein & the Dorsal artery - areas to be careful with.
Clearly, emphasizing a top-to-bottom grip while jelqing should be avoided for those 2 reasons: (1) Not much to really "gain" with the CS, & (2) The "danger zone" at the topside of the penis.

However, emphasizing the sides really works the biggest chambers (CC) and avoids that delicate network along the topside of the penis.
I’m beginning to suspect that super-intense work to the shaft (extreme ulis, pan rolls, etc.) probably promote a thickening of the tunica much quicker than an expansion of the CC/CS.
Furthermore, very intense stretching and/or hanging probably strengthens the ligs faster than it lengthens them.

I believe we need a different approach, hence the 2 threads I started…

A Newbie Again
A Newbie Again?

A New Track
A New Track

How much coffee have you had lately? Or what is your diet consisting of cuz it sounds to me like you’ve been eating some brain candy. :)

I got a question about the CS from that diagram … when you increase the size of the CS, does this happen without dilating the urethra?

Excellent work Wad. This brings an interesting question to mind. How can you lengthen the penis without lengthening the urethra?

It would seem to me at first glance (and I am a novice at this) that if you concentrated just on the CC then the tension in the urethra would prevent any length gains? Perhaps this could explain why some people seem to gain girth over length?

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Do you mean “Will the urethra dilate with PE?” or are you asking, “Will size increases of the CS constrict the urethra?” ???

First of all, I don’t think we get a great deal of growth from the CS; some, but not nearly as much as with the CC. Furthermore, I don’t think the CS would “pinch” the urethra really, because full expansion only occurs during a full erection (ever notice how it’s difficult to piss while fully erect, even before you ever PE’d?).

I don’t see any potential growth of the CS as contributing to any urethral/urination problems. But the urethra is undoubtedly pliable, or how else could a person gain 2” or more EL without separating the urethra from their pisshole? Growth is such a slow, gradual process. I believe that all the soft tissues of the penis will expand with PE - eventually.

This gets at the heart of what I was asking. The CS is essentially tethered to the CC (as I understand the physiology) so in order for the CC to grow lengthwise, the CS must grow also.

In addition, if the CS is not injured by microtears, the CS must grow via a different process than the CC grows. Since the CC grows by repairing tears and adding cells at the point of tears, the CS can not grow via the same process.

Also the CS would then be applying a growth constricting force to the CC (via the interconnecting tissues) so the CC would be encouraged to bulge out and grow widthwise. I will try to make I diagram.

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This is also one of the reasons that stretching should be done. With stretching, you’re imparting tractile stresses to the entire penis - CC, CS, tunica, urethra, ligaments, etc., etc. If there’s any chance of “growth lag,” stretching should, in theory, remedy any imbalances.

Hmmmm,
thats interesting. I don’t know if its been covered before, but I definitely learned something knew today.

Anyways heres my stupid image, in case anyone was confused before, you can now become more confused.

If I was going to go with a routine of just stretching and jelqing, I might try to focus at least some of the stretching on just the CS. But bear in mind this “advice” is coming from a novice.

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SEE: A New Track

I was speaking of part B and yeah, I’ve noticed that it’s hard to piss while erect. That hasn’t changed at all, just something I was wondering while looking over the diagram. Thanks for the info!

a good cross section showing the vascular system

Looking at that picture, do you need to have taught skin to aid the compression of the veins?

I think I need for outflow suppression than I have now (Used to be alot better before PE).

I think it is due to increased volume of penis, without increased blood inflow.

Some say this is incorrect, however I believe that you need sufficient inflow to cause the compression, to decrease the outflow.

My skin is really stretchy and I’ve lost the vascular look for whatever reason. Could it be due to the fact that I used moisturiser as my jelqing lube for a while?

Will it go back?

Or is it something else that causes the veins to constrict. So far BTB jelqing has shown promise.

Aha!

The second chart you’ve posted illustrates something I’ve never known.

It appears that the tunica, rather than merely ‘bundling’ the cc’s, also helps restrict the outflow of blood as erection occurs. You can see that the emissary veins have closed. Does this mean that tearing down the tunica is detrimental to erection strength?

I’m also interested in glans expansion, and I’ve been thinking that increasing the cs would facilitate this.

I don’t believe that PE “tears down the tunica,” as you’ve implied. I believe the opposite - that PE strengthens & thickens the tunica. But you are right in assuming that a degraded tunica would weaken your erections. In my case, PE not only enlarged my cock, but turned my erections into iron.

I just believe that strategic breaks from PE can help reduce some of the toughening, enabling you to hopefully experience a new growth phase - before it again becomes very resistant.

But many guys are under the false impression that the tunica “thins” as the penis expands with growth (like a balloon). But I don’t believe that to be the case at all. I believe that the stresses associated with PE act upon the tunica & ligaments similar to what weight training does for muscles - it thickens & strengthens them. This would explain my much firm erections after I took up PE. If my tunica was thinning at all, my previously weak erections would probably be nonexistent by now.