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Big PE decision - need input

Big PE decision - need input

Hello everyone, I have a big PE decision ahead of me and I’d like some input from PE brothers. :)

As you can tell from my signature, I have gained roughly 1” of BPEL. Not bad right? On the other hand, my girth has remained more or less the same (0.1” increase at most).

I’m still ~0.6” away from my BPEL goal, but BPEL gains are starting to get really slow and I’m tired and bored of all the stretching.

If I had more money, I’d probably get vacuum hanger, but that’s not an option right now, especially with Europe shipping/customs.

I’d like to start working on girth. I did some clamping in past, but only experimental for a month or so. Now I’d like to dedicate myself to it and see some bigger changes on my penis.

With my BPEL just shy of 7”, I can easily hit my girlfriend’s spot. I don’t think more length would make too much of a difference at this point, especially compared to change that girth could make.

So what do you think, should I pursue my length goal or switch to girth and work on length maybe some other time?

How’s you EQ? If it’s suffered due to all of the length work, I’m sure that doing some jelqing and Uli’s should add a bunch of girth. Clamping should do the same.


I'm a disciple of science.

Never had any EQ problems during the most of my PE career. As a matter of fact, stretching positively affects it.

As for girth routine, I’ll rely mostly on clamping and maybe some pumping. I’m not a big fan of manual girth exercises.

I say go for girth and to begin with try pumping, most people reckon it’s great for girth but I’ve gained more length from it and i believe Avocet did to so, what’s the worst than can happen ? You most likely get some girth and if not you may reach your length goal after all .

There’s no more enjoyable form of PE in my opinion.

UpTo7, post up your stretching routine, maybe I will point something out/add some tips to it to speed up your gains. How often you do girth workout? Any jelqs after stretching routine?

Originally Posted by Turnau

UpTo7, post up your stretching routine, maybe I will point something out/add some tips to it to speed up your gains. How often you do girth workout? Any jelqs after stretching routine?

It’s nothing special, I just do manual stretching with focus on ligaments (BTC and SD) and I gradually increase duration when I feel it’s needed. Before the break I did up to 45-55 minutes of stretching per session (usually 3 on 1 off or 3 on 1 off 2 on 1 off). After stretching I do some dry jelqing for penis health. Except for that short clamping experiment, I never had workouts that target specifically girth.

Originally Posted by UpTo7
It’s nothing special, I just do manual stretching with focus on ligaments (BTC and SD) and I gradually increase duration when I feel it’s needed. Before the break I did up to 45-55 minutes of stretching per session (usually 3 on 1 off or 3 on 1 off 2 on 1 off). After stretching I do some dry jelqing for penis health. Except for that short clamping experiment, I never had workouts that target specifically girth.

Bravo for being able to handle 45 minutes of stretching. After about 10 I become very bored. To be honest, I think 7 BPEL is a good place to stop gaining length considering the amount of time you will have to put in to achieve any gains after that point. Clamping for sure works but it is far easier to over do and requires you to really pay attention at all times to minimize the risk of injury. Also, discoloration is easily avoidable with due diligence. While I believe some are susceptible to it, I believe most people are irresponsible and that’s what turns it into permanent discoloration.

Originally Posted by UpTo7

It’s nothing special, I just do manual stretching with focus on ligaments (BTC and SD) and I gradually increase duration when I feel it’s needed. Before the break I did up to 45-55 minutes of stretching per session (usually 3 on 1 off or 3 on 1 off 2 on 1 off). After stretching I do some dry jelqing for penis health. Except for that short clamping experiment, I never had workouts that target specifically girth.

That is a lot of stretching time, I worked up to 30-35min of manual stretching and started having grip fatigue after couple months. Maybe its time to try different angle? I was always doing everything at once, like a/v stretches, stretching in every direction, twisted stretches where I would twist my unit and then stretch, but the best exercise for me was rotating stretch. When doing it, you can actually discover some weak spots (fatigue, pleasant dull sensation). I always was getting fatigue in my right side, maybe because penis was pointing little to the left. Some girth work after stretching is helpful to restore the blood circulation, but you know that. Maybe you have to start doing stretching every day instead of having days off?

Originally Posted by Turnau
That is a lot of stretching time, I worked up to 30-35min of manual stretching and started having grip fatigue after couple months. Maybe its time to try different angle? I was always doing everything at once, like a/v stretches, stretching in every direction, twisted stretches where I would twist my unit and then stretch, but the best exercise for me was rotating stretch. When doing it, you can actually discover some weak spots (fatigue, pleasant dull sensation). I always was getting fatigue in my right side, maybe because penis was pointing little to the left. Some girth work after stretching is helpful to restore the blood circulation, but you know that. Maybe you have to start doing stretching every day instead of having days off?


Indeed, grip fatigue is another problem, but I guess I could stretch so much because my hands are used to heavy loads thanks to gym.

When I started out I worked out all angles (SU, SO, SD, left, right). I also had a period with V stretches and A stretches, both manual and with assistance (cylindrical objects). Only in last few months (after gaining some decent length) have I dropped everything but SD stretching and started doing BTC stretching. It helped me gain more because of heavy ligament load.

I think there’s still room to gain length, but at this point I’d really like to try something else, I’m almost decided to go for girth, I’d just like to hear more opinions.

If it takes 1 hour of PE every day for another year (or even more) just to gain 0.5”, I think I’m better off going with girth. When it comes to girth exercises, my penis is still fresh and I think clamping would really pay off.

Besides, I can always take another deconditioning break and give it another try (be it length or girth).

Originally Posted by UM1991
Bravo for being able to handle 45 minutes of stretching. After about 10 I become very bored. To be honest, I think 7 BPEL is a good place to stop gaining length considering the amount of time you will have to put in to achieve any gains after that point. Clamping for sure works but it is far easier to over do and requires you to really pay attention at all times to minimize the risk of injury. Also, discoloration is easily avoidable with due diligence. While I believe some are susceptible to it, I believe most people are irresponsible and that’s what turns it into permanent discoloration.


Well, then you see where I’m coming from. :) 55 minutes of stretching is a lot. Especially compared to how easy clamping is. You just put it on and turn the stopwatch on while watching a movie and monitoring the color every minute or so.

I did a lot of research on clamping and I’ll be careful. I’ll start out with just 2 sets of 5 minutes and gradually increase to 3 sets of 10 minutes over the weeks/months.

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