Can't do stretching because ALWAYS >20% erect?

Yeah but your not stretching blood, your stretching your cock. Logic tells you it is harder to stretch anything, the more rigid that thing is.

Prove me wrong, PLEASE! I want to stretch after Jelq. Get the messy shit out of the way, I can stretch all night if need be.

I’m just telling it the way it is for me - I simply find I just get a *much* better stretch after a good jelq session. I’d agree tho, stretching becomes rapidly less effective as soon as you’re anything other than flaccid, irrespective of how plumped.

People have different opinions of which should go first, but both are possible. If you want to stretch after jelking, you can jelk, then masturbate, then stretch. Usually I’m ready for a good release after jelking anyway, and that will deflate you enough that you can stretch.

Hey, I just tried stretching AFTER jelqing last night, and I was a LOT more stretchable. I had always thought it better to stretch before jelqing, sort of like how they tell you to stretch before doing any kind of exercise.

Exactly! Tho as I said, I’d suggest doing some light stretches first during the warm-up, then jelq the hell out of it, then stretch stretch stretch!

I’ve also found that the best time to jelq is immediately I wake up. My dick’s nice and plump as well as being nice and warm (I’ve learned to do the bed fowfer almost without thinking about it now, so mostly I’ve been doing that all night first).

Luck and length!

K.

I see. I found it helpful, after jelqing, to just do nothing at all for about five minutes (with a warm towel wrap) to let the guy “relax” a little bit. He’d stiffened up a little once I’d started stretching, but I just stopped again for a few minutes, and the second time around, I was able to give it some good stretches.

I have the same problem and it can be a pain. Now I jelq before I go to sleep, and then I wake up, shower and stretch a little in the shower. Here’s the trick I learned, and it is getting out of the shower wet, while the house is a bit cool (60-65F). It keeps the blood in the right parts.

I cast my mind back to my Very early PE days. As new as a newbie can be.

When I stretched, my dick never really felt that plump. When I jelqed, I didn’t have to worry about erection levels or anything like that. This is telling me that no matter what you do- either it be stretch first, or jelq first, there is always going to be that level of plumpness now because this is just how your dick goes.

I believe this to be true at least to the guys that have PE’d quiet consistently for at least over a month. I know my stretches haven’t felt as beneficial to me lately as they did at the start of my PE career, or even jelqing has become a bit harder- but I attribute this to a more stronger/fitter healthier dick that can retain more blood than before.

So I think there is no trick to being able to stretch totally limp (no plumpness at all), because I think those days went out the window when your PE activities started coming up Daisey’s!

My Opinion anyway.