Collected wisdom from the vets and good gainers

Y-Guy, that was so cool to read. I wish I has a printer hooked up so I could print it out. Thanks for helping me remember how cool pe is!

wow that was a good read

Damn I just realised that I haven’t replied to this yet. Thought i’d forgotten? Well you dont get out it that easy!

Reading about people that started really small makes me glad that I started average, or slightly above at 6.5nbp (7bp) x 5, but as some smart people say average doesnt cut it. I instinctively knew that I was average, I knew I wasnt small but as has been said before, I passed up a lot of chances with girls because of the size issue, and still do i’m afraid.

I was playing tennis with a football (dont ask) years ago when someone told me about this sex program type thing on TV, where often lots of female flesh got shown on it, among other things so I decided to watch it. For the life of me I cant remember what it was called, I dont think it was Eurotrash but it might have been. Something along those lines anyway. So I watched this program late night in my room, and turned the volume almost right down so noone would hear it (damn TV didnt have a headphones socket), and in the program penis enlargement was mentioned, specifically hanging. There was this guy from the waist down, with a censored thing over his dick, and a string hanging down with some weights on it. The guy said “….And I can tell you that this is not very comfortable!”. But good old me decided to do it anyway, and I wrapped my dick in toilet roll, tied a string to it and tied the other end to a 1.1kg weight whenever I worked out. Needless to say it did nothing.

Then the internet came to my attention, in late 99. The second thing I searched for was penis enlargement (the first was orgazmo, a film I was watching at the time). I remember being paranoid about searching for that in case some people would hack into my computer and laugh at me! The search led me to a PE forum, altpenis I think, I cant remember the name. There, some guy posted the full program of a PE paysite. I laughed and copied it to my PC (in a hidden folder deep in the windows folder lol). It was jelqing and manual stretching. I was jelqing flaccid, and it did nothing of course. But on the forum a link to the good old pub14.ezboard.com/bpeforums appeared mid 2000, and I went there and found cool people like bib, size, phat8, dance, still, chikkas, JAPP, and the rest of the gang who I cant be bothered to type all their names but are no less important. In fact I remember seeing so many posts by a guy called ‘wantmore’ that I thought that it was a defaut name for people that had not registered their own username (seriously). That wasnt true was it? ;)

I read up there and started jelqing properly, and hanging too. I decided hanging was the right way to go, and built a hanger based on the homemade bib. So I hung, increased the weight repeatedly, and got no gains. I tried different angles, and got no gains. I tried chikkas’ shock routine, and got no gains. I tried jelqing alone, and got no gains. Obviously I was getting rather pissed off at this, and like another cool guy, I made PE my number 1 priority, putting it before everything else! It still is actually. I copied hundreds of posts from the ezboard forum, especially bib’s, and the famous phat/dance conversations (I recommend this). Because I liked hanging, I could sit at the PC and read these posts if I was offline, or look at new ones on the internet if I was on (as well as porn and other stuff of course). Because of this time at the PC I became almost undefeatable at Quake, but that is another story.

But I still got no gains!!! So I switched back to the beginning and started fresh, with just a jelqing/uli/manual stretch workout, and I used supplements to try and increase blood flow during jelqing (A waste of time as it turned out). And at this time which was probably early 2001 I got a girlfriend for the first time in my life. I was still insecure, and she had to practically wrestle with me to get my pants off the first time. I talked to her about it sometimes, never saying outright that I was insecure but I think she guessed. She said I was average. Also, I was horrified to discover that she had told several of her friends about my size. Of course I expected it but I still didnt like it. Women talk. One day, we were out, me, her and two of her friends that I didnt know up until then. We went to pick them up and they seemed friendly, but after a few drinks things got a bit nasty, there were way too many penis jokes coming up in conversation (too many for coincidence). They knew I knew this, and I knew they knew that I knew they knew.
(Some of you might remember me ranting and whining about this girl on the other board)

So I decided to make PE my no 1 priority!! Oh, wait, it already is, bummer.

Around the time I finally broke up with her, thundersplace got going, and I decided not to register, I thought it was just another guy trying to get a PE site so he can make money off it (I didnt know thunder was seeker9, god knows how I missed that one). Actually, I hear thunder lives on a beach and has bikini clad women do his PE for him, so this may be true. But when I saw the rest of the bunch there I followed along, happy sheep that I am.

Then I got a bibhanger, which was really the most important part of my story, because with out the bib and bib’s advice I would not have been able to hang enough to gain. He is the coolest. After a lot of talking about clocks(dont ask), I did hanging routines plus ADS, using traction wraps and bungee cords and theraband later. I managed to increase the weight to over 30 pounds at BTC, and I bet most of 2002 was spent either working or sat at home with a bibhanger or ADS strap attached. I had all kinds of problems with skin, head pain, wrapping etc. I had to adapt and change a lot to keep in comfort.

Despite all this, I got no gains!!!! Arrrghhh!

Then, in Feb 2003 it finally happened, I got a 1/4 inch gain!!!! I was happy.

Then the next day it was gone! AAAARRRRRGGGHHHH!!!!!

I carried on doing what I was doing, and ordered some viagra to truly test, as I had (and had for a long while, I just forgot to mention), ED, which was OK at times and at others I couldnt get it up at all. I thought that with a viagra erection I could tell for sure, as I thought I was going mad. So it arrived in the post and I got good wood with the help of avril lavigne pics ;) , and I looked at it. It looked just the same size, and my heart sank. But I measured anyway, just to be sure. My eyes nearly popped out of my head.

Seven-point-five!!! 7.5!!!!
(the actual measurement was more like 7.4, but after 3 years and 4 months of gainless PE, I hope you dont mind if I round up)

I had actually gained more in the time between losing the gain and measuring again (which was roughly a month I think). Good Job!

Thats the SS4 story.

Here are some morals:

1. Discolouration - I have MAJOR bad discolouration on my foreskin. To the point where I could not show my dick to a girl without her thinking I am a freak. Keep an eye out!!! Some discolouration is expected, but dont let it build up, use wrapping techniques to stay on top of it.

2. Adaptation - You will have to realise that some things will not work for you. Manual moves may not. They did not for me. If something is not working after a few months, dont be afraid to shake things up.

3. Positive thinking - My gains came in a time when I really felt deep down that I was hitting the limiting factors as hard as I could. Did this play a part in the gains? Who knows, but it does not hurt to think positive so you have nothing to lose.

4. Knowldege - The most important thing. A hanger will not get you gains, knowledge will. Read over and over, even if you think you know it all.

5. Persistance - PE takes a long time for some, and a short time for others. I am convinced that everyone can gain if the persist.

6. Help other people - If you learn a lot about PE in your time on the forums, it is not just a good idea to pass your knowledge on to newbies, it is your responsibility. Karma makes the world go around!

7. Send me cash - PM me your credit card number and expiry date.

GOOD LUCK!
SS4

thanks SS4, you are the PE posterboy for #5

>>5. Persistance - PE takes a long time for some, and a short time for others. I am convinced that everyone can gain if the persist.>>

Great posts guys and thanks for sharing your success.

Your story is timely…Luvdadus

Thanks

There are no accidents————

I was getting the: oh, poor me, no gains, depressed, wife hasn’t noticed, blah, blah, blah; and now this great thread.

Thanks for the success and geting me back on track.

Hey guys, thanks for your kind words. Doing what we can.

Bump for the new guys.

Nice thread - haven’t posted anything for a long time. My thoughts are simple - everyone has a spare inch tucked away, beyond that seems to take a lot of work and dedication. I’m still working at it, but results get slower and harder to attain, and variation is necessary to trick the penis into giving out its extra little hidden increases.

I must have read this post about 20 times and every time I read it I get a new burst of inspiration. Thanks luv!

I figured I might chime in only because I’ve been at this “seriously” for about 5 years, experimenting with PE for over 15 years before that…

I am one of the few (from what I’ve gathered) who didn’t get into PE because I thought I was small or had a traumatic experience. At 6’3” and 215#, I always wanted a large hanging dick to my my body size, but it never really bothered me that I was a grower, not a shower. I have always been very confident in myself, never thinking I was small or big, I just knew I was good at fucking and wanted to do as much as I could. I was around 7”x5”, not exactly sure because I never measured correctly until after I found PEforums and learned how to measure properly. (I am not a details kind of guy, I’m just interested in the big picture.)

I’ve more than my fair share of tail, over 200 women that I can remember, three-somes, four-somes, swapping…even ventured into being a sort of male escort type thing. Not trying to brag, but just to state that I have been around the block and seen alot of crazy shit. I started a thread on the old PEforum board about a few a my sexual escapades. It was a lot of fun.

When I was in college, I “jelqed” (not having a clue what it was called or anything else) before a date or going to a club. I loved the added girth it gave me and the ladies all seemed to like it. I quickly got a rep in college for my “size”, and it was mostly because of the pump I got from the jelqing type exercises I did before going out. Looking back on it, I figure my temporary “jelqed” girth around 5.5 to 6. This was about 1984.

When I found PEforums in 1999, I was intrigued by some of the posts, mostly by Bib. His gains were mind boggling to me. I started doing a few stretches and jelqs, and saw minor changes in my penis, but no size increases. The small changes were to the “veinyness” of it and the increased firmness of my erections. It just looked better, meaner if you will. That motivated me to “kick it up a notch” and take it seriously, and see if my wife noticed. After several months, I measured a 1/4” gain in length and 1/4” in girth erect, and my flaccid size was dramatically increased, which paid immediate dividends to my desire for a bigger flaccid hang. I remember going to a club one night wearing a pair of jeans. I had several comments from friends and strangers about the huge bulge in my pants. I was hooked at that point.

My routine was variations of manual stretches, jelqs, squeeze jelqs and bends. I tried pumping, but I never had any permanent gains from them, and my erection quality went way down. Too frequently got the donut and got turned off by pumping. I never had the desire to hang. I had the biggest gains from manual stretches and squeeze jelqs 6 days a week. Every few months or some, situation permitting, I would do a “shock treatment” and spend the better part of a day stretching and jelqing - 8 -10 hours. The intensity is a shock routine is incredible. I continued this routine until I hit my largest size of 8 1/4” x 6 1/8” (7” at the base) and VERY veiny erect, and 6” x5” flaccid. I describe it as the shape of Peter North and the angle of TT Boy. My head has always been bigger than my girth…Goddamn mean looking. I figure I gained 1+” length, 1+” girth. My wife was so impressed by my new size, she had to “show it off”, and we had a couple of threesomes with some girlfriends of hers. :)

It quickly got to a point where I was big enough for her and went into maintenance mode for a year or so. I can now bottom out with the wife after she has given birth to our 2 kids. I went several months doing nothing at all, and then go a month doing 15 minutes a week here and there…very sporadic to say the least. But I maintained my size and erection quality. I still catch men and women staring at my bulge. I’ve caught a group of girls staring and embarrassed them by asking if they saw something they liked. I have fun with that part of PE.

Anyway, at Christmas my computer crashed and had to get a new one. I was remembering all the sites I had saved to favorites and PEforums came to mind. I measured for the first time in a long time and was pleasantly surprised I was still a hair over 8”x6”, but had “the bug” again.

I am back, serious as I was before. I want to see what my plateau is. If it’s 8.5 x 6.5, then so be it. If I can reach 10x8, then that’s where I’m headed. But I am going to keep doing this until I max out, wifey complaints and molars be damned.

Thunder,

this thread is a thing of beauty! I’ve got the whole thing on my computer. I’ve had no gains but this stuff is really encouraging! Great work……

Only an extremely small bit of encouragement/motivation, especially for younger guys - how I envy you, like others above, I spent most of my life embarrassed in men’s shower rooms - carefully read all the above, and then PUT IT TO USE!

You have the ability to pretty radically change and improve your sex life - and that is a MAJOR part of your existence! If only I knew 50 years ago what I know now, a significant area of my life (and my partners!) might have been greatly improved - it already is, but damn, I’m almost 70 years old, and haven’t nearly the remaining opportunity to fully enjoy my gains a younger man would…

You have the power and opportunity, and the examples of others here - DO put it all to good use, you’ll never regret it!

Thanks to all for writing your experiences down. They’re very encouraging to me and I’m sure others as well.

SS4JLQ: I never laughed so hard in my life.:) I spit up coffee all over my computer (gained 1/4 inch, then it was gone..) I’ll forward the bill.

Dude, you are the king. If you’re not a billionaire by now, just put half that much commitment into the goal and you will be in short order.