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DIY Phalback style vibrating pump cylinder

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I have a $20,000 Phalback and am logging my results

Is the "routine" something you think could be replicated with just a manual pump?


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@RedCommander… how intense is the vibration? If I have my pump and I have a massage "wand" of some sort; could I use that wand to replicate the vibration that you are receiving using the Phalback?

Originally Posted by Vintage

@RedCommander… how intense is the vibration?

According to the patent, the vibration is 3,600 RPM, 1.2mm peak to peak movement, give or take 0.5mm.

Originally Posted by deSol
According to the patent, the vibration is 3,600 RPM, 1.2mm peak to peak movement, give or take 0.5mm.

Some massage guns can get up to 3,200 RPM based on some searching around… might be worth a shot to try.

Currently adding vibration via my percussion massager to my hanging routine

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The chisel attachment seems to work the best.


“There are some people who always seem angry and continuously look for conflict. Walk away; the battle they are fighting isn’t with you, it is with themselves.” Unknown

New here from other forum. I have been researching this a little and have some insight, I think. You need a strong vibration that won’t be achievable with just a massage wand. I think you could use something like this, hope I can post a link.
https://www.ama … /dp/B0CNK8FLXS/

Also I would recommend a thick wall cylinder or maybe suffer an injury if a toy cylinder cracked under the strain.

I’m not a mechanical engineer but think the size and material of the mounting plate would affect the strength of the vibrations, might want to try and figure that out by watching the videos.

Could control the vacuum pump, vacuum release and the motor on/off times with a Arduino board.

Originally Posted by deSol

According to the patent, the vibration is 3,600 RPM, 1.2mm peak to peak movement, give or take 0.5mm.

That’s 60hz. Or just flat of a B on a bass guitar. Wonder if there’s a way of a way of retrofitting a speaker…

Tried the massage gun today:

1.) Great expansion

2.) Worst edema I’ve had since I started pumping (only been a month though)

3.) Best BPEL I’ve had coming out of tube

Originally Posted by Vintage

Tried the massage gun today:

1.) Great expansion

2.) Worst edema I’ve had since I started pumping (only been a month though)

3.) Best BPEL I’ve had coming out of tube

Gave it a try and had the same results. Felt huge but a lot of edema and even some burst blood vessels just under the surface of the skin.

Originally Posted by Beefwormer
Gave it a try and had the same results. Felt huge but a lot of edema and even some burst blood vessels just under the surface of the skin.

Did you hit the whole tube when using the massage gun? I wonder if hitting near base vs. glans makes a difference. I went up and down on all 4 sides. I was also at about 6 inHG when attempted.

I think it warrants some further experimentation.

What about duct taping the most powerful wand there is to the cylinder?

Originally Posted by Vintage
Did you hit the whole tube when using the massage gun? I wonder if hitting near base vs. glans makes a difference. I went up and down on all 4 sides. I was also at about 6 inHG when attempted.

I think it warrants some further experimentation.


I did 2x 10 minute sessions @ 5hg
I got some adhesive foam tape I had lying around and stuck one piece on the end of the flat attachment of the gun, and another on the top side of the cylinder near the base. I set the gun to the highest setting (3200rpm) and slowly moved it in until the 2 bits of foam tape were touching. I was then able to adjust the distance and angle until I got a nice vibration throughout my whole unit. Felt quite pleasant tbh.

I did just the one 10 minute session after hanging. I’ve been doing 10mts in the tube after my hour of hanging this cycle anyway so pretty easy to add it in.

I just muck around with how close the gun head is to the tube, and the angle of both the tube and the gun. Once you get it right you hit a sweet spot where it vibrates thru the whole tube and your whole unit and just feels “in sync” and very pleasurable. I just try and hold it in that goldylocks zone for the 10 mts.

This time no “bruising” and it came out fat and heavy but without that lumpy edema feel you get if you pump for too long or too high. Just thick and heavy.

I think there really could be something to all this so I’ll keep going and see where it leads

Vibration needs to be right-left or front-back according to the axis of the shaft? Do you think it is important?

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