Effectiveness of the ADS

I have wench and Bib hangers. I’ve been using the bib because it handles more weight easier. I’ve been hanging in the area of 11 to 14 lbs. The wench is great though. It could handle that weight also but the Bib is easier to wrap for and it goes on and off quicker.

Hello Monty, it’s cool to know that, but my problem is that I don’t have a credit card already, so I will do the hanger that Ten for Seven did.

Here are two pictures of it. The inner of the hanger

It’s the most similar to the original Bib.
Later

Let me start by saying I’m biased against ADS because I hate having anything attached to or hanging from my penis during normal daily activity. It cramps my style.

With that said, this business about “tissues healing in an extended state” strikes me as highly suspect. The tunica is, at a microscopic level, an exceedingly folded structure. It’s about 5 to 10 times thicker when flaccid than erect. When you stretch the tunica, it unfolds by allowing elastic fibers to stretch out until the limits of its collagen matrix are reached. Hanging with heavy weights ever so slightly enlarges this collagen matrix (probably by micro-tearing).

It seems that for an ADS to keep the collagen matrix extended, it would have to hold the tunica at or near its fully loaded limit, i.e., that which caused the penis to extend beyond its previously greatest length. Otherwise, the tunica would not heal in its stretched state. I’m not aware of any ADS that does this.

Another point to consider is that healing from micro-tears takes place over a period of several days, not hours. Therefore, successive sets of heavy hanging, even on different days, will blast through any early stage healing or cross-linking at anything less than a fully extended state.

I think ADS may be effective in extending your flaccid length, but probably not for the right reasons. Penismith’s earlier thread “Why gains slow” introduced the fact that protracted penile hypoxia, which is caused by low blood flow (such as that which accompanies the use of ADS) causes the buildup of fibrotic tissue in the corpora cavernosa. This fibrotic tissue tends to stiffen the penis, even when flaccid, and may therefore “improve” flaccid hang. However, it’s probably not healthy and may even contribute to erectile dysfunction.

Like I said, I’m biased. So feel free to disagree.

Hey MM, I have to take issue with a couple of your arguments.

1. The ability of penile tissues to retract into a shorter length on their own is an example of what you call a folded structure. This folded structure when disallowed to obtain it’s folded state will grow to create that state in anyway it can. If as you say the tunica will enlarge its collagen matrix the growth will cease unless a greater and greater load is applied. That is not what I’ve experienced. I have seen consistent growth with inconsistent heaving hanging. If that didn’t take place then we would all reach a plateau that would eventually create massive heavy dicks that no amount of weight would influence.

2. I’m not sure that the tunica is the one of issue with an ADS. I know that the ligament is the principle supporting structure because it is the one tensioned in support of a peweight ADS. I don’t know about other ADS applications. I can only speak for what I’ve tested and use. When PEweights are mounted the ligament is stretched tight. That can readily be felt. As the ligament gives from heavy hanging sessions and the ADS the tunica has to grow along with other structures. If it didn’t then we would all be producing deformed penis’s. With the ligament running along the top side of the penis, if it stretched but the tunica didn’t then the overall effect would be a downward curve. Such has never been reported here. I appears that things tend to grow proportionally.

3. Erectile dysfunction has not been reported as a problem. To the contrary most members testify of improved functions. Many are reporting longer lasting erections during intercourse.

I know some express doubts that an increased flaccid length doesn’t mean greater erect length. I haven’t found that to be the case. If that were true then we would see greater flaccid lengths in comparison to erect lengths. Actually what I’ve seen is a consistent flaccid to erect differential usually in the area of 3/4” That hasn’t changed during the gain of the last 1 1/2 of my growth.

But then like you I’m biased

I disagree, I believe you will find that the angle you ADS at is critical. When you ADS down, as in most systems, you are really stretching the ligs. Once you reach a certain point, this is pretty much moot.