flaccid vs. erect penis size

Ophiosaurus

Erect size is more important to me but I have been thinking more and more about increasing my flaccid gains. I saw an old post in which you mentioned you had initially found this site while reading up on the Penimaster traction device. I recently purchased one of these myself. I have read in a variety of places, both on traction device sites and in studies that flaccid gains are supposed to be more pronounced then erect gains with these devices. Are you still using the Penimaster? Do you think that the Penimaster contributed to your existing gains?

I guess I’m more of a shower then as my flaccid is from 4.5”-5.5” NBPL x 5.5”-6” girth, my erect is 7.5” BPEL(7ish NBPEL) x 6” EG.
Before PE I was more boarder-line grower.

Erect is most important to me, I want to be 9” BPEL x 6.5” EG, but I would like a good 6”NBPL x 6”G Flaccid.

I think you are right, in general, however I was an exception. Even with gains to nearly 8.5 erect my flaccid size hardly changed at all; that was a real disappointment, wanting flaccid increase more than erect.

After talking with peforeal about this I started using his TheraP wrap idea, both cock and balls, later moving on to the ACE elbow wrap he discovered. The ACE is even better, imo. From that point on flaccid gain started happening (finally!) and after a year and a half I hang close in proportion to what my erect size is and no longer feel at all self conscious in a locker room or peeing in public places, etc., etc..

So, how do you use this and how does it work to increase flaccid hang?
Are you talking length or girth or both?

SNM

I almost always wake with a hard-on. I put the ACE on immediately when I get up and leave it on, taking it off only on those days when I PE later in the morning. I finish PE with an erection and put it back on then, too, for awhile. I’d say, on average, 4 - 5 hours a day total. The theory is that micro-tears which occur during PE then heal at a higher engorgement level than they would ordinarily. It helps during the wearing time to stimulate yourself into a semi or so from time to time; a full erection if you are in a place where that will work. The wrap will hold some of the subsequent fullness for some time. I have a sense that there may be an element of “training” your cock over time to remain larger flaccid than it might otherwise. Don’t know if that is valid or not.

I don’t know either for how long it works, after you stop, SNM; I still do the wrap often. Do I care how large I get flaccid? :) However I have gone as long as two weeks on vacation without doing this; no downward size decline at all. I’m hoping this is a permanent thing. The acid test is swimming for me. After being in a very cold pool I don’t turtle nearly to the degree I used to and later, when warm, the expansion comes right back.

Thanks, SNM

avocet8,

I am in Japan, so it is hard for me to get my hands on some of this stuff. Can you describe what the Ace elbow wrap is like so I can go out and find something similar? Also, when you wrap, is this the same thing as just wrapping after your PE. As far as how tight you should wrap it, I suppose not too tight, but tight enough to keep some of the blood in. Is that about right? I guess the wrap should be tightest at the base right? Thank you.

Here’s what it looks like. The tab he’s holding is useless for our purposes. You cut that off. The elbow band is about 2” wide.

It’s difficult to make it too tight, but don’t try to strangle yourself.

I actually might cop one.

I have had success in increasing flaccid length with the following two techniques:

1) Use a circle device or similar. Keeping the flaccid penis in an extended state for long periods of time relaxes the tissue in a flaccid state. I used a circle device for about six months solid and increased my flaccid hang by a good 2+”. People complain of the cost, but I found it to be an incredibly well-engineered device - worth every penny.

2) After a light pumping session in a cylinder approx. Your erect diameter, fill the cylinder, release vacuum and disconnect the line. In other words, there is no appreciable vacuum, just an air lock that doesn’t permit you to shrink. Keep this extended state for a long period of time (hours, with breaks and jelq every 20 min.) Again, this keeps tissues in a flaccid state for an extended period of time.

What is a circle device?

Erect length would be my goal.

I am between 5” and 6” bpfl pretty much all the time, going to just over 8.25” erect. That is about a 30% increase, lengthwise. I self-classify as a shower.

I don’t like the “grower-shower” definitions on the Glossary page here. They list “showers” as those who only have average EL. I would say, regardless of overall EL, a shower is one whose length increase, going from flaccid to erect, is under 40%.

I think most men , including me prefer a larger flaccid. It’s gives the perception of a larger dick. Flaccid gains came much quicker for me and that alone boosted my confidence.

I’m no longer ashamed of people seeing my soft dick as a result.

I used to have a small flaccid. Probably half my erect length. After 2 years of extending, my flaccid varies throughout the day now, but it’s never under 5 inches and when I’m relaxed it’s 6.5x5. For reference my erect length is 7.75 inches. I’m pretty sure that having it stretched out for long periods of time has contributed to my flaccid gains.