Originally Posted by billyballo
More than a quarter of a million of users,actually.
And of a quarter of a million users how many do you think have actually done one exercise. Most look around and don’t believe it or decide not to do the work.
We know weight lifting works. Yet how many people pay for a gym membership and actually keep going after 6 months. So imagine a free site where there is no financial incentive to do the work.
Bearded dragon would know better than me how many people actually entered any information in our PE database. But I guarantee it is no where near a quarter million people. Then think about all the people that do the work half ass and get no results.
Now in regards to pictures. I tell people all the time to measure themselves really well. Take some good pictures. They don’t even have to share this with anyone. Just for their own personal doubts later on.
I do this because I didn’t take great pictures. Yet I read other people telling me to take good pictures. For whatever reason people don’t feel enthusiastic to take pictures until after they made gains. Then they are believers and wish they had done a good job with documentation.
I laugh because I always ask people who doubt if they took good starting pictures. Surprise surprise most of them didn’t take pictures. If they did take pictures they are just as bad as the ones they call into question. Yet the doubters want people to do what they themselves chose not to do.
No matter what even when you find good pictures you will see what you want to see. If it is absolutely concrete evidence then you will believe it is photo shopped.
I have seen some good pictures on here. However, I am guessing nothing will ever meet your criteria. I am not here to convince you. As I said this site makes no money off of this. You say we are selling hope. Show me where the price tag for that is. Where is the buy button or the checkout for how much we are charging for this hope.
The only cost is that someone puts in their own valuable time. I am not going to force anyone to do that. If you don’t choose to do it then that is on you. All I expect from you is to follow the forum guidelines.