Hey Bib

I was wondering if you could give some input on turning flaccid stretch into erect length.

On the surface, it seems logical to assume one’s FS would always be greater than an erect measurement, as the fs is much thinner than a hard on, allowing more of the tissue to expand forward and not around something. However, some have reported having identical fs and erect lengths, so who knows…

I tried to search for your personal history thread to no avail. If memory serves, I believe you mentioned your BPFS is longer than your BPEL. I also know you stated you hung for the length with only “light jelqing” to promote circulation. Can you quantify “light jelqing” into something more specific, like 3 second strokes at medium pressure for 5 minutes once per day, for example?

Do you feel that there is a direct correlation between ones BPFS and BPEL? Do you think this relationship will stay linear, with 1/4” of growth in BPFS resulting in the same gain in BPEL? Was that your experience? Or did you BPFS outpace your BPEL, and the jelqing closed the gap?

Anything you feel is relevant related to stretched versus erect gains and their relationship would be a good read :)

I am wondering about this too. After being directed by Bib to concentrate on tunica work because of my low LOT I have gained about 3/8 inch in FBPSL but I am still at the same ELBP. My FBPSL is about 1 1/4 inch more than more EBPL. That would seem ok for someone with a big unit but I am barely reaching 6 1/2 inches BPEL and have a FBPSL of 7 3/4 inches.

Thanks
Sappy1

RB,

>On the surface, it seems logical to assume one’s FS would always be greater than an erect measurement, as the fs is much thinner than a hard on, allowing more of the tissue to expand forward and not around something. However, some have reported having identical fs and erect lengths, so who knows…<

What you are saying is true. The FS will be the upper limit of the potential for EL. The final limiting factor is the length of the septum of the tunica. There are other factors involved in the display of that potential.

For one, I believe it does take a while for blood flow to adjust to the larger size. In order to fill the chambers to the same extent (turgidity) as before PE, something must happen. Either the blood pressure must increase, the vessels supplying the penis must become larger, or the vessels draining the penis must become smaller. I believe it is the middle option. As gains occur, the FS will increase automatically, and can be seen. I think there must be some adjustment for the erect measures to display that added potential. Jelking, especially behind the balls, or horse squeezes may help to display that potential by expaning the vessels supplying the penis.

Next is the difference between individuals of the amount of elastin material found in the shaft. Those with higher amounts, growers, will have a more difficult time in displaying the full FS as EL. Showers will not have this factor holding them back.

Related to the above is whether the individual has a high or low LOT. The ligs will stretch somewhat, and/or pull away from the base during a FS. This will not occur during an erection.

There are probably other factors that I cannot think of right now.

>I tried to search for your personal history thread to no avail. If memory serves, I believe you mentioned your BPFS is longer than your BPEL.<

Yes, when I was hanging, my FS would be 1.25-1.5 inches longer than EL. Now it is about one inch longer. Before PE, they were about equal.

>I also know you stated you hung for the length with only “light jelqing” to promote circulation. Can you quantify “light jelqing” into something more specific, like 3 second strokes at medium pressure for 5 minutes once per day, for example?<

The amount I would jelq would vary. I did not have a set amount of time or stroke length. Light jelqing refers to the amount of hand pressure used, which was not much. My goal was to totally inflate the chambers to insure good blood flow to all the tissues after hanging. That’s it.

>Do you feel that there is a direct correlation between ones BPFS and BPEL?<

I believe there is a high correlation, but not exact.

>Do you think this relationship will stay linear, with 1/4” of growth in BPFS resulting in the same gain in BPEL?<

No, it did not for me.

>Or did you BPFS outpace your BPEL, and the jelqing closed the gap?<

I don’t think normal jelqing had anything to do with it directly. I think jelqing behind the balls really helped me to display the FS potential in EL. But I also think the vessels supplying the penis will naturally increase in size over time.

The difference in the two measures was a bell curve. It grew as my hanging career went on, and then reduced after I stopped hanging.

Bigger

Edited to correct the third paragraph. Thanks BattleHymn

Bib, do you think your use of the uli thing for girth after you got your hanging length was key in expanding the vessels and such that you state you feel are what brings ebpl closer to bpfsl? In other words, did your gap close once you started doing girth work?

Right now I am only stretching, and averaging 1/4” of gain per month in my bpfsl. I do very little jelqing, maybe once per week, and no girth work. I am a grower, and as long as my bpfsl keeps increasing, do you feel I will bring my erect length up when I start hitting the extreme uli’s?

Oh, by the way, thanks for that 1/2” of gain over the past two months based on your LOT theory and tunica concentration recommendation :)

RB,

>Bib, do you think your use of the uli thing for girth after you got your hanging length was key in expanding the vessels and such that you state you feel are what brings ebpl closer to bpfsl? In other words, did your gap close once you started doing girth work?<
The gap started to close maybe a little when I started girth work, but I do not think the ULI thing had much to do with it. The gap started to close because of added supply to my penis. After I stopped altogether, the gap closed over time.

>Right now I am only stretching, and averaging 1/4” of gain per month in my bpfsl. I do very little jelqing, maybe once per week, and no girth work. I am a grower, and as long as my bpfsl keeps increasing, do you feel I will bring my erect length up when I start hitting the extreme uli’s?<

For that purpose, I would recommend jelqing behind the balls, or horses. I don’t see how Ulis might help a lot.

>Oh, by the way, thanks for that 1/2” of gain over the past two months based on your LOT theory and tunica concentration recommendation <

I love it when a plan comes together.

Bigger

“For that purpose, I would recommend jelqing behind the balls, or horses. I don’t see how Ulis might help a lot.”

I’ve abandoned horses as they were the major culprit in skin discoloration for me.

Can you expand upon “jelqing behind the balls”? Is this just a normal pinky out palm down begin your jelq as close to your pubic bone as possible, or something different? If it’s different, how ‘bout a step by step so I can give it a whirl?

Also, did you jelq behind the balls as part of your light jelqing, or as a seperate issue? How much time and days per week did you spend on it?

Interesting thing happened to me.

My flaccid stretch was about .5 inch longer than my erect length after about a month of fruitless Peing. I took a break when I went away during christmas, and I lost that flaccid stretch advantage.

So my theory on gains is this:

Three stages:

1) Flaccid stretch length
2) Uncemented erect length
3) Cemented erect length

Of course is you don’t go to completion, it’s lost.

I don’t think that this is anything unique, and I’m sure I’ve heard people talk about this before.

RB,

>Can you expand upon “jelqing behind the balls”? Is this just a normal pinky out palm down begin your jelq as close to your pubic bone as possible, or something different? If it’s different, how ‘bout a step by step so I can give it a whirl?<

It is really not too hard. The more you do it, the easier it is. What I am writing about is the area between the PC and pubic bone.

Get above about a 70% erection. Spread your legs. Form a kind of cup between your thumb and first two fingers. Palpate upward in the area behind your balls. You should be able to feel the shaft. Put your thumb on one side, and your two fingers on the other. Jelq by forcing the blood toward the between your thumb and fingers. You will be pushing up somewhat using the pelvic floor as the other side which allows you to force the blood. You should notice your head really swell from this also.

Be sure to trim your fingernails first. The stroke should go into the scrotum a bit, from the PC to within the bounds of the scrotum.

>Also, did you jelq behind the balls as part of your light jelqing, or as a seperate issue? How much time and days per week did you spend on it? <

I did, and still do the BTB jelqing as part of my regular jelqing. When I was hanging, or doing the girth work, almost every day. Now, maybe once per week.

Bigger

Insane,

I think this is the general trend, yes. It was with me.

So,

NOW people want to do jelqing behind the balls. Other ways of doing it are using the back of your thumb or a karate chop kinda position, and pushing against your body. Its a great thing to do if you need an erection and you start to lose it, you can jelq BTB to get back to 100%.

SS4

I think I’ve got it, I’ll give it a go. Sounds like just the thing for my lingering morning wood while I’m waiting on the kids to come down for breakfast and the spouse is in the shower.

BTB, yet another abbreviation for the Glossary.

bigope started a male multiple orgasm forum, it can be found in the link section here.

One thing that is being discussed there is Dr. Lynn’s ballooning method. I know many feel he is a quack, and he’s not an md, but it seems like his method is exactly like behind the balls jelqing. He states that it superinflates the penis, but recommends one not do any upper shaft stimulation as that will bring the nerves into play. He states by avoiding these sensitive areas and establishing a rock hard fully inflated erection by ballooning or btb jelqing, the nerves are compressed and desensitized, allowing one to last for a much greater time during penetration as well as have a non-ejaculating orgasm…

I don’t know, but it sure sounds like fun :) Bib, did you ever encounter anything like this?

I seem to be drawing a blank on this BTB thingy.

Sounds like a neat thing for erections.

Can it be explained to a 2 year old?

When you are near erect, massage the part of your shaft that is between our scrotum and anus :)

Bib, what is it specifically about his part of the shaft that allows super inflation and blood flow? Why is it a potential weak link?

Obwan,

1. Get a 70% erecty-wection
2. Use your fingers to feel around between your ass and your ballsy-wallys.
3. This is your inner penis. To jelq this, you can push it against your body, with your fingertips, starting furthest back towards your ass and sliding your fingers towards your nutsack.

That work for you?

RB,

It simply pushes blood into the penis manually, no magic. Since it does not get much attention, I suppose over time it can be a weak link because it gets less massaging effect so more plaque buildup can occur. Thats my best guess anyway.
SS4