HGH Effect On Gains

Well, except the ball, probably, those have been known to shrink…
Also, once the growth plates close, there will be no more growth - especially the hands and feet. What did probably grow though, was their ego.

Still, your post was great, definitely had a laugh from it :D

Think what you want. But I knew these guys when they were my size, big but normal, and then 20 years later they were a size 15 shoe and they had huge mitts that enveloped my entire hand when we shook hands. The growth plates also known as the epiphyseal plates only have to do with the length of the arms and legs. That’s why they say if you take steroids too soon you will stunt your growth and end up short. I know another fool who did that and he was 5’2” and 236 pounds. Yes the nuts shrink temporarily While youre on steroids but they grow back when you get off cycle. You sound like those guys on Reddit that say that penis enlargement doesn’t work.

I honestly cannot imagine the bone density of the hands and feet becoming so great to have increased their hands and shoe size by any degree. I don’t know anything about your experience, but from mine and my education, they dont gel. This is not to say i am questioning your authenticity, it is what it is. I have seen many of your posts here, very genuine-seeming guy, so take what I say just as it is meant to be - just 2 cents from a random guy in the med field… If I had personally experienced what you say, I would think differently so my perspective is as is right now, until I have information otherwise.
Still the head increasing in size? The heart and intestines? This just sounds off to me, and definitely worrying if it is the case. But yeah, the balls can just “bounce” back for the most part :laughing:

I don’t quite know what Reddit is, so i’m not sure if that was a compliment… Anyway from my experience so far, it hasn’t worked.

What does Jimmybob55 have to say about this? This has become an even more interesting topic

The growth plates on all humans are shut down by the end of your teens, girls earlier than boys. What you are referring to is a condition known as acomegaly; not all that healthy!

Agreed, at least in general anyway that is indeed how it goes. Acromegaly I had not considered but with the substantial elevation in HGH for 20 years, I believe this is likely the case! Definitely not at all healthy…

Bones grow well into old age, just not in length (Barring disease). 10% of human bones material is recycled every year and changes based on need (Mostly through stress). Vertebrae circumference increases as we age, facial bones change.

HGH just speeds up the process. Emulating Acromegaly takes large doses of long-term exogenous HGH.

As in, using such hormones for several decades for use in bodybuilding?

Sorry but bones do not grow once the plates have shut down. Oh they will remodel as all human tissue does but they won’t grow bigger. Do you know anyone that got taller as they got older?

The heart and the intestines growing is why the 300 pound bodybuilders now have giant distended bellies called bubble guts and that’s why their abdominal muscles tear and separate from the increase in mass of the intestines. And what’s killing many bodybuilders now is the enlarged heart that gets so big it can’t expand fully in the rib cage thats confining it. Lost a long time acquaintance at age 46 this year.

I’m not disagreeing in anyway with LZ or JB. I would be foolishly to as I’ve never touched a steroid or HGH or read medical book in my life. My question tho is can someone explain Barry Bonds or Mark Maguire? Those are two guys who we all know used both drugs and clearly their heads, hands and probably feet grew after using these substances.

Sorry to hear of your loss Steinroid.

Yup the heart grows due to cardiac myopathy because it’s failing; congestive heart failure. The intestines grow, endothelial cells proliferate and cause diabetes. Good drug to use don’t ya think? Iknowitonly happens to the other guy.

I mentioned the opposite. Not sure what you’re trying to get at.

I’ve no idea what the average bodybuilder uses in terms of HGH. But the stuff isn’t cheap and you could make the case that it isn’t feasible long term for your average competitor.

They give guys HGH in those anti aging clinics now with testosterone . But In doses of 2 - 4 iu. The damage and unwanted shit can begin from about 8 - 10 iu a day. Pros use 20 - 30 iu and up! Some take shots every 2 hours and add insulin to process even more carbs. Very dangerous shit.