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If woman prefer a bigger dick than why am I small?

If larger than average is the preferred size dick, then I think the explanation is that it is a low priority. A woman is going to choose the guy who brings home the roasted mastadon, and makes the roundest wheel.


Horny Bastard

Originally Posted by kaan
Women may prefer big dicks, but that doesn’t mean there are many big-dicked guys avaible to any woman any time she wants. So the “average” woman, will match with the “average” guy, statistically :)

I beg to differ.

I think three things factor into this. First off, weather. We evolved during some Ice Ages if I’m not mistaken. Not a good place to get frostbite. Second, modern pollution is making dick size smaller with estrogen-like compounds everywhere. Third, while a woman may be able to extract some genes from a big dick any time she likes, or any other size dick she prefers, a key point for the survival and thriving of her children is will the father stick around long enough to help her raise them.


I think it's the woman's job to tighten up to fit her man--it's lots easier for us.

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I think that sexual selection is a two way street. Women who believe that they are very attractive tend to have higher criteria for men then women who feel less attractive. If a woman is butt-ugly then it doesn’t matter if she MUST have a cute guy over 6’2" tall with a 8x6 dick or not. She’ll ultimately settle for a lot less since attractive tall guys can have their pickings and will likely take the most beautiful girl available.

Here's a study that indicates this very idea:

"Both sexes assumed that a trimmer, taller male would be judged more attractive. Women definitely favored taller males, the majority endorsing the statement that being with a tall man made them feel more feminine. Most women indicated they wouldn’t date a shorter man. Almost a third insisted the man be taller than the woman and another third would date a man of their own height but no shorter.

Two groups particularly valued height, taller women and women rating themselves more attractive. But height preference often gave way to practicality: taller women were much more likely to accept a date from a shorter male. As one 5’10" women confessed, "My husband is six inches shorter than I. Initially, I refused to even consider him for this reason. In reality, I was able to train myself to accept something else."

"Women who rated themselves as more attractive were particularly concerned with larger [penis] size. Of women describing themselves as "much more attractive than average," 64 percent cared strongly or moderately about penis width, and 54 percent cared about penis length. Women who rated their own looks as average were about 20 percentage points lower."

http://www.psyc hologytoday.com … 101-000022.html

Originally Posted by zaneblue
I beg to differ.

I think three things factor into this. First off, weather. We evolved during some Ice Ages if I’m not mistaken. Not a good place to get frostbite. Second, modern pollution is making dick size smaller with estrogen-like compounds everywhere. Third, while a woman may be able to extract some genes from a big dick any time she likes, or any other size dick she prefers, a key point for the survival and thriving of her children is will the father stick around long enough to help her raise them.

I don’t really understand why all women (at least most of them) are saying this all the time: “size doesn’t matter..” .

I know that size does matter. I have the capability to deeply understand women, and understand their true feelings, whatever they may say.. :) .

I’m afraid “any” woman isn’t able to “extract” the genes from a big dick, “any time she likes” :D I suppose that “big dick” must like the woman too, am I not correct? ;) (also must agree to have a child, too..)

I don’t care what the estrogen-like compounds are, or the modern society pumps them , whatever. I take care of myself and my testesterones :) I recommend this everyone.

You gave answer to my question, without actually answering the question: :)

Do “big dicked” guys have an appeal for the females? Do they have an advantage over smaller ones, considering mating (i.e; sex) ? What’s your opinion as a woman?

Is this a plus for a man’s attraction in eyes of women, or not?


Start: 6.9 BPEL x 4.9 (17,5 x 12,5 cm)

Now: 7.7 BPEL x 5.7 (19,5 x 14,5 cm)


Last edited by kaan : 08-09-2006 at .

Originally Posted by mravg
Ha Ha.
Funny how not one person has answered that evolution has proven that 6x5 is the preferred size for women.
Is it that hard to even contemplate? That your average dick is just right?


It’s possible, but it’s just hard to know exactly where we are on the evolutionary chart. Have we stopped evolving or are we going to continue to evolve for a million years or even much longer? Apparently we started out with micropenises and due to sexual selection (including infidelity) both ours and chimps penises grew far more than the ape’s penises (as there is less cheating in ape communities since they live in harums).

As others have mentioned there have been times in history where sexual selection could not exist outiside of cheating (i.e. arranged marriages prevailed) and I’m sure that penis size growth slowed down in those periods.

It’s just hard to know when we’ve reached an equilibrium as far as ideal size. It takes millions of years for this stuff to happen since females have a long list of criteria from which she’ll select her male, cultures and customs often restrain women from choosing, etc… Wouldn’t it be funny if a million years ago they were having this very discussion about whatever penis average was back then (let’s guess 4.5”x4”)? That would be quite humorous if we ever learned that men worried back then that their average was not ideal and women assured them it was only to have their size increase another inch or so (just guessing) over the next million years where we now have that same discussion.

But if looks are used in sexual selection (as they are) and attractive people are best equiped to survive (earn more and therefore have better access to healthcare, education, food, etc..) then it goes to reason that the offspring of unattractive women (those who place far less importance on penis size) might be at a survival disadvantage. Their male offspring will grow up with less financial resources and their daughters less attractive thereby decreasing their chances of reproducing.

My guess is that the more open and sexually liberated women become the more important that penis size will become for sexual selection. And even then it will probably take millions of years because it still will be just one of many characteristics that women will use to weed out men and it probably still will be low on that list.

to add to my last post the more financially independent women become the more likely guys are going to be judged on their bodies, fashion sense, etc… You can see that happening right now in western society.

If anything has potentially slowed sexual evolution as it pertains to penis size that would be women’s financial and survival dependence on men since the beginning of time. The “provider” quality has probably trumped all criteria that women used to select their mates. That is all changing for the first time in the history of mankind.

Originally Posted by mravg
Ha Ha.
Funny how not one person has answered that evolution has proven that 6x5 is the preferred size for women.
Is it that hard to even contemplate? That your average dick is just right?


I was leaning in that direction

Originally Posted by penflex
A 6x5 dick gets the job done…[silly crap].

Originally Posted by kaan
I’m afraid “any” woman isn’t able to “extract” the genes from a big dick, “any time she likes” :D I suppose that “big dick” must like the woman too, am I not correct? ;) (also must agree to have a child, too..)

Must agree to have child? I thought we were talking about evolution. Birth control hasn’t been around all that long.

Big dicks aren’t all that rare. Unless the owner is a rock star or something surrounded by a large volume of women trying to get into his pants, just about any woman can get just about any single man to have sex with her once. Particularly if he’s a had a few beers!

Now you are all tantric and everything, so you are probably different, but the majority of unattached guys, if even an ugly woman came up to him directly and asked point blank to suck his cock—what’s he going to say? And an easy matter to hop on once he’s close to orgasm.

Relationships, now that’s a different thing, the odds are completely reversed. But sperm extraction? Very simple.

And I really can’t extrapolate from my own tastes to other women, I realized that last weekend. I watched the new Devil in Miss Jones, and I thought the old bald paunchy guy was the hottest man in the movie. Okay, a lot of that is my baldness fetish. Still. They had this guy who looked exactly like a romance novel cover with a personality to match but I like the old paunchy guy—without seeing his cock, and of course there were lots of big cocks in that movie. Something about his eyes.


I think it's the woman's job to tighten up to fit her man--it's lots easier for us.

Buy my book! The Orgasmic Diet by Marrena Lindberg


Last edited by zaneblue : 08-09-2006 at .

Guys, I think we are being degraded here :rolling:

(plus, still no answer ;) )


Start: 6.9 BPEL x 4.9 (17,5 x 12,5 cm)

Now: 7.7 BPEL x 5.7 (19,5 x 14,5 cm)

Lots of variables.

As mentioned over human history most women had much less of a choice to “select” than they do currently.

Smaller dicks are less probable to be injured or frostbit.

Jealousy could have the group of average sized guys “eliminating” the big size guy (back when clothing was not worn).

Physical size and strength are not directly related to penis size in most races.

Certain tribal cultures may well have contributed to larger penis sizes.

Many other variables.

You are also assuming that women had a choice in the matter or even cared. Consider births by rape, arranged marriage, prostitution, promiscuity, premarital sex ethics, psychoses, low sperm count, erectile dysfunction, homosexuality, asexualism.

Perhaps the man also had other more important qualities, intellect, athletic, leadership, wealth, fidelity, good looks, emotional compatibility. Larger penis size might be nice for a romp in the hay but it doesn’t say anything about a worthy mate/father.


BEFORE 5.75 EL 4.8 EG Vagina Length Database

NOW 32yrs old 8.5 BPSL 7.75 BPEL 5.5-5.75-6.25* upper/mid/base EG 5.0 BPFL glans tip 5.0 FG shaft Hang, Stretch, Jelq, Pump, Clamp

Goal 8.0 EL 6.0 EG Asian - Thai 5' 10" uncircumcised

The stoopid ugly people comment was made to contrast the "why is the average size 6X5" question. As in: for the same reason the world is filled with stoopid ugly people. Also, I apologize if my comments offended any stoopid ugly people.

Originally Posted by Nick666
I have another question: I have 6x5 dick, and after 3-4 years of PE I make it 8x6, and with my 8x6 dick I impregnate my girl and she has a baby boy, what dick will he have? a 6x5? an 8x6 ? somewhere in the middle?


Do natural Large Dicks grow genetically or does the guy earn them by being alphamale

Penis evolution?

Originally Posted by zaneblue
Unless the owner is a rock star or something surrounded by a large volume of women trying to get into his pants, just about any woman can get just about any single man to have sex with her once. Particularly if he’s a had a few beers!

I was all set to call you on that one but you covered your self. :)


Running a Massive Co-Front.

Originally Posted by Inoxia
I’m 21yrs old and I’m just under 6” NBPEL. My question is if women prefer an 8X6 inch cock than how throughout our evolution has a 6X5 inch dick predominated? It seems as though natural selection would have weeded us average guys out of existence.

In fact couldn’t’t we go as far to say that women most prefer a 6X5 dick since that is the predominant size after millions of years of evolution?

I am not sure that all women prefer an 8x6 inch dick. Although when a woman feels the thickness and probably just the sheer excitement of having a dick that large they may feel like that’s what they want. I believe that girth may be what they really want and not necessarily length. We live in a age where we think bigger is better. And in some cases, yes it is.

But to probably answer your question, do you really believe that a midget can do anything for a woman that five feet taller than him? No I don’t believe that he can. I think that dick size is for a reason. Tall women=deeper pussy. So bigger dicks may be required to satisfy them. So there has to be all sizes. But we are not here at thunders to stay at 6x5 or what ever size you are, we are trying and achieving larger dicks.


If you stretch it, it will grow. If you clamp it, she will know.


Last edited by iwillbbigger : 08-09-2006 at .

:down:

On the evolution thing: I just thought you’d all like to know that we have the largest penis size compared to other primates. I saw a discovery special on this. The conclution to why humans are larger than other primates is becuase early human women chose mates with large penis’.

This could mena that in another million years or so 8 inches will be the average penis size and people will be peing to get to 14 inches, lol.

Or maybe money and financial security has taken the place of penis size. It seems to be the trend that women want men with money over penis size.

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