[Newbie-Theory] Another POV to healing in elongated state & hard gainers

Ehlolo - yes, I think you’re right. I always make the second and third workouts of the day more gentle and faster, but they help to maintain the “feel” that I had when I first completed the initial, harder work out.

I got your point and now that I think of it I think you are right.

Cock rings should do the job. I can’t think of anything else to keep the penis engorged for girth gains.

I found wrapping your base with any cloth tight enough the most effective, because its’s comfortable and doesn’t squeeze too tight on the veins.

But my God this theory is working for me already. My penis has been hanging lower and staying engorged even after I wake up with just a boner.

A little confused about the ADC. Is it super tight like clamping at total constriction. (Anything less and I seem to completely loss engorgement).

Don’t understand how you can get a cock ring tight enough to maintain flaccid engorgement over your flaccid?

I did read the ADC ring thread and still confused what works.

A Velcro wrap over cloth?

I tend to wear a lasso type cock ring (fully adjustable) and il change the level of constriction throughout the day. I believe this approach has helped yield nearly all my girth gains which i wish i had recorded better. I’m almost certain that pre pe i was 4.6-4.7 and now I’m 5 or just under 5.1 with the lasso type cock ring at only a medium level constriction. i wear it all the time and during sex so as far as I’m concerned the 5.1 is pretty much normal right?

Today i decided to up the ’ keeping it plump’ approach out of interest. I simply threw on a cable clamp (not too tight) and edged for 5 mins and 3 different times throughout the day. Il perhaps report back if i end up making gains down the line with this new approach.

I just like to add i do pump/ clamp also in the evenings for 5/6 days per week.

Can you post a link to lasso ring or post picture?

Not sure how, but its from lovehoney.com

Just type is lasso cock ring and my one is called ‘the big daddy’ or something alike. Don’t be concerned about the name because as i said, its fully adjustable. They sell it in yellow or purple and its made from very comfortable material.

Thanks.

This design makes a lot more sense to me based on what we’re trying to accomplish.

0.02$: Been thinking (just my silly logic) about the cock ring and I’m having hard time trying to believe that will provide any “benefit” to our penis.

This is why:

PE will lead to changes in local (penis) metabolism, because there is edema there, fluid-build up and tears on the flash that requires “work” to fix it up … that is why our flaccid got bigger with PE … blood circulation is increased to deal with all those things.

Why would I add a cock ring to “disturb” this process?

Blood saturated with CO2 must left the penis quickly, heading to lungs, dump the CO2 and finish his job … so more oxygenated blood could come in and “support” the penis accelerated metabolism (results from PE). Cock ring will trap/clamp most of the blood outflow (blood with CO2), “limiting” the entrance of oxygenated blood to the penis.

Cock ring should be increasing the flaccid size further than normal, because there is a mild clamping going on … but will sacrifice the healing process (no healing = no growth). In short, temporary expansion that might go away as soon as the cock ring is removed.

ADS makes more sense, blood system is undisturbed.

Yeah, your logic makes sense.

But I have no scientific background to 100% accurately verify your theory. Nor can I verify anything I spout on here.
All I am doing is compiling data from what has worked.
Many seem to get girth gains by applying a cock ring.
Many say that they started gaining as soon as they started doing that and haven’t seen any progress before.

For me, all this is a numbers game.
The likelihood of something working for many indicates that it is likely going to work for me as well.
Whatever the biological reasoning/theories behind there are do not matter to me whatsoever. After all, I am only after gains; I am not trying to major in dick science!

So.. You might be right. But the amount of people applying cockrings, from my gathering, and also gaining thanks to it and actually attributing it to that outweights people who gain girth without. Obviously there are outliers/exceptions..
If you could show me in # that people gain more by not applying a cock ring for girth or ADS for length, I would instantly drop this idea and stop doing it (ADWrap atm)

Edit: Actually, I could write a little web crawler, collect data to all the gainers in the 0.5+ range in length & girth respectively, check their routines and see whether they did such a thing.
I think this would be very interesting.
The conclusions I could draw from that would then heavily rely on people accurately inputting their data on this site. Hmm..

Best regards :P

I’m not much good on the scientific side of things either.
Although regarding the edema part useless…..does edema prevent/ slow growth? The reason i ask is that edema is caused by histamine i believe so lowering histamine could help if so, i currently take quercetin which blocks the release of histamine and i have noticed less edema post workout. Hopefully this could help speed up the process.

One thing I’ve noticed recently, and I’m nit sure if its eq based is my recent sizes in measurement….

I’m 5.0meg natural

I’m 5.150meg with a cock ring not too tight, just enough to hold my unit and sack together nicely

I’m 5.250 if i throw a cable clamp on and simply get erect. This is without any edging or time spent in the clamp…simply clamp on and get erect.

I’m suspecting my pumping(3.5 months in) has increased my penis elasticity range but i simply don’t have the blood supply to use it to its maximum? I don’t know how i can improve this? Exercise more? Perhaps il take some Cialis and see then?

Problem is I’ve pe’d for so long now i cant quite remember how hard my erections were in the first place. My expansion levels are there but simply as if i don’t have enough blood or perhaps blood pressure down their to maximize it. Post routine I’m 5.3 with the cock ring which is only 0.1 more than if i literally threw on a cable clamp any time of day without the routine!

Sorry, i apologies for side tracking the thread he he.

I believe edema will always be present, even at the lightest routine. Will became a problem and hit negatively the growth if the swell and fluid-build up sticks for longer than usual (cannot tell for sure how long tho).

Histamine can have a role in edema but it is not the most common type I believe. Water retention alone can cause edema. Especially in feet/ankles and hand/wrist area. It can be caused by many things. Kidneys, liver, and heart problems are some of the most common.

Edema can absolutely expand tissue. However, once the edema goes the area effected usually returns to normal size. The skin can be the exception. It can be discolored and all stretched out depending on how much the skin is stretched and how fast.

I have seen edema that caused water to leak out of the skin. I have even seen someone’s feet split open. However, they had grown to like grapefruit size. It was insane.

I think the ideas of expansion due to fluid retention are interesting. I just think it is difficult to target where the fluids actually are. So difficult to also know what is expansion due to blood in the right areas and what is expansion due to either fluid build up or the bodies reaction to the damage being done. I am guessing the latter is not as helpful and might actually be doing harm.

Interesting subject brought up by OP.

I certainly agree with the mission statement of healing in an elongated state leading to better gains. It has been one of my chief aims when healing over night and in my opinion has aided in my gains.

After my workout in the bath at night (primarily length work using a fulcrum stretch) I wear an around the entire package cock-ring (silicon wrist band) to first keep my in an elongated and slightly engorged state. This band seems to have no issues with all day wearing as it doesn’t restrict outflow. Before I go to bed either with or without the ring on I will extend my dick downward and place it between my legs in the elongated state. From there I tend to lay on my side as it’s easier to keep it between the legs in that position. Whatever minor tears I’ve sustained from the prior evening always seem to be healed in the morning. I’ve noticed both erect and flaccid gains.

As a side note I also meditate for a portion of time on the base region of the penis where the exercise is aimed at before bed as well. I cannot be sure as to how much it has helped but I can only be sure that I’m doing something right and that I can feel something going on when I do it. (The meditation)