No jelqing, just hanging and clamping

Anyone tried this? I used to think of jelqing as the backbone of PE — that it was the meat and potatoes and other stuff was supplementary sorta. However, I’ve been toying with the idea of going with more the total divide and conquer approach with the idea that maybe clamping is the most efficient way of developing girth and hanging is the most efficient way of gaining length. In part, my reasoning is that there is a race between gains and conditioning. That is, when you do exercises, you are creating gains/growth, but at the same time you are also increasing the strength of the force which tries to stop you from gaining — the “conditioning”, or thickening/toughening of tunica.

So, I’m thinking maybe by taking the two most focused exercises, it might be possible to maximize the ratio of growth to toughening/conditioning.

Another couple things that pointed me in this direction are (a) the inconvenience of lube, cleaning up, etc of jelqing — it forces a certain order in things in that I have to do it before showering and then reheat, etc to do other exercises (b) that Dr Adams in the chem PE thread apparently feels that jelqing is bad for toughening tunica and, rather, prescribes his patients to only do stretching even though his patients gain well in girth on the program.

Anyway, I’d like to hear people’s experiences with this kind of approach.

Most clampers jelq.

IMO, if you do these with any kind of intensity you will have to make a decision as to which one to drop. If you are talking low intensity/hours hanging, then I guess it is possible.

If I’m hanging with any significant time, I found it ridiculous to jelq a lot. I couldn’t even imagine throwing in some clamping.

If this Adams guy feels that jelqing is bad for tunica toughness, he would shit his drawers with clamping. :)

I don’t jelq. All of my gains have been from hanging and all day stretch devices. I put in a lot of time at a low weight (a minimum of about twelve sets a day).

I don’t jelq for girth since I don’t want a baseball bat shape.

I’m taking a deconditioning break, so no hanging for a while, but I have taken up clamping in the interim to work on my girth. I’m not sure how the clamping will effect my length gains when I get back to hanging but I’ll know soon enough.

Perhaps I need to read the FAQs more closely, but isn’t the baseball bat shape a symptom of jelqing while not semi-erect enough, and not an intrinsic problem with jelqing itself?

To be honest I’m not entirely sure about the dynamics of jelqing, since I don’t really do it, but I’ve always thought it would cause the baseball bat shape. I’ve read posts on the forum that imply it but I’m not sure if there are jelqing techniques that give an even growth (i.e. loosening the grip as the stroke travels up the shaft). Maybe some experienced jelqers could chime in.

I don’t think jelking is that good of a pe exercise. It seems to be good for overall penis health and erections. There are certainly many ways to enlarge your penis and jelking does not have to be part of any routine.

So what are you saying? Skip the newbie routine and go straight to clamping and hanging? You need to condition the penis so you don’t end up a) ripping it off, or b) exploding your dick.

Mr. F did you gain any girth while hanging?

No one is saying skip the newbie routine. Clamping and hanging are advanced exercises and you are right, you need to be conditioned.

Ok. It kinda came across as that, at least to me. I’m wondering if my dick is conditioned enough for the more advanced exercises. I started a thread about my first year of PE. I feel as if I am not working my dick hard enough. I’m starting to clamp a little now. Is 3 sets of 10 mins too much for a beginner?

If you have been PE’ing over a year, you should be fairly well conditioned. The best way to know what you can handle is to start off slowly and be aware of signs of injury, such as bruising, erection problems, etc. 3 sets of 10 minuites is fairly standard for clamping. Gradually increase the pressure as long as you feel you aren’t hurting yourself. If you feel like you eventually want to increase your workout intensity, it is better to increase the number of sets, then the intensity of sets, rather than the time per set. Keep that at 10 minutes.

Thanks. I’ll try that. :D

I did get base-girth from hanging, but it didn’t seem to affect the rest of the shaft so I now have a kind of hour-glass shape (I started off with a natural baseball bat shape). I’ve got about 1.5” to 2” of thicker shaft right at the base and then it gets a little thinner before increasing towards the top of the shaft (where it was always a little thicker).

patientone, apologies, at this stage of the game I just kind of assume that everybody’s already completed the newbie routine.

The newbie routine should definitely be followed before moving on to more advanced exercises, not only because they can help condition and prepare you for advanced techniques but also because newbie gains are probably the easiest to achieve just through the use of the newbie routine and without a financial outlay for devices etc. .