Old School P.E.

All I have to say is wow, you definitely built your first pump the year I was BORN! Haha, I am going to take a shot in the dark and say that you have a bit more experience than my month or so. :)

Fobs

I am surely quite happy that I discovered PE now, well, I guess any longer ago and all I would have cared about was playing with myself anyway, but I am 20 years old, and in about a months time I’ve gone from 5 5/8 BPEL to 6 1/8 BPEL and from 4 7/8 EG to 5 1/16 EG using the newbie routine from the home page.

All of you “Old Schoolers” rock for blazing the trail, because of you, I know what works and what doesn’t so I don’t have to waste time figuring out for myself. :D

Fobs

Thanks. I may finally be able to give hanging a fair trial. In the past, all of my hangers either hurt or they slipped to much.

The disturbing thing is that I was 14.5 years old at the time. I could have really hurt myself. Apparently, I used just enough common sense not to damage anything.

Thats all any of us really need, wailhung. Just enough.

Seriously, I second that. If it wasn’t for forums like Thunder’s, I would still be fumbling with poor technique and injury.

I’m on one of my triannual pilgrimages right now. :)

For those interested, an archive of Tom’s site.

So who exactly was Gary Griffin? Is he a ‘real’ person or just some guy the publishers made up?

A real whacko, long dead now.

GM

I was two clicks and a stolen credit card from buying “Facts and Fallacies” j/k. But did contain anything useful that you used? Did it talk about what the “tribes” did to achieve 16”? I briefly talked to a phalloplasty surgeon about the book and all he said was the guy wasn’t a doctor, whatever that concludes.

A phalloplasty surgeon has nothing to gain from tipping their hat to natural PE because the surgeon makes his dollars from surgery, not stretching, hanging, etc.

Was there anything useful. No. Griffin didn’t even have the remotest clue about the subject. I’ll put it to you this way, imagine if someone spent maybe one day skimming Thunder’s and then decided he was an expert on the subject and wrote a book off the top of head and you get the idea.

In Griffin’s book, the ADS (not called by that name) is mentioned in the version of an ADS that straps to the leg. Griffin’s book states that this is not a valid method. Why? No explaination. Perhaps because the reference material to this ADS strap was a (phony) first person account that was published in Penthouse and later reprinted in the book The Penthouse Letters?

And The Penthouse Letters also has an account of a man who used an extender like device called a Linga Pendulum. From the description is was a mini jes extender that the man wore ten hours a day. From the description of the impractical dimensions of the device, I’d probably say this was a made up account based on heresay. Has anyone ever heard of a Linga Pendulum? This letter was published somewhere around 1974.

We’re all newbies compared to guys like P9, or Pee9 or whatever the heck Aussie Rob is calling himself these days. He started PE back in the 70’s.

GM

I thought I had insight but never heard of Longa Pendulum. Some surgeons must get something from recommending the hanging products and extenders. They say they don’t but after lengthening surgery a stretching device is needed and most all stick to one product. If you check out the grip they are proud to state their product is recommended by Dr. Giunta, Reed, etc. And they also guarantee an inch in six months which is a little far-fetched. I haven’t seen that and I followed their program religiously every day. And if hundreds of thousands of phalloplasty procedures have been performed where are the thousands of 2-3 inch length gain pictures? I was ready to get the length procedure done but couldn’t understand why there were only 6 photos and only 1 with a 2 inch gain. Is it quite possible phalloplasty surgeons only give major length gains to people who have 3-5 inch penises who really need it!! I’ve never heard of Linga Pendulum.