PE is just like Body Building

I really wish the PE-bodybuilding bro science posts would stop happening. Just because they have similarities does NOT mean you can apply BB principles to PE and vice-versa.

Not another one of these threads!

So much of what Thal said was spot on about sleep, diet, consistency, patience, etc. But you guys don’t understand that the penis is not a muscle. It doesn’t not respond to hypertrophy and the same protein synthesis and hormonal cycles. And whatever crap they’re spewing out about high protein diets and supplements, is still wrong. Look I’ll make it as painlessly simple as all possible. Stress to the penis through PE switches on a cycle of events that later results in small gains…. Just like with bodybuilding, you don’t gain from PE itself but from rest and recovery with repeated workouts. The one thing you need to keep under control here is inflammation which prevents recovery if it’s chronic. This means #1 not doing too much to begin with, #2 not PEing again before you’ve recovered, and #3 not further stressing your penis with more PE, sex, or masturbation than it can handle. The rest of the bro science about drinking whey, eating lots of protein, etc is just crap that TP has all heard before.

Consumer reports released information on different protein. With the exception of Muscle Milk and another brand (I don’t remember), most of the common brands like Optimum Nutrition were definitely safe. Heavy metal contamination was fairly low.

Second of all, take protein in conjunction with all of those herbs and see if the results are the same. You changed two variables, so you cannot determine if the protein made you worse, or the herbs make you better.

No where did I stat the penis was a muscle. And I don’t know where you guys got that from or why everyone is so quick to point that out to me. But thank you all for reminding why I stopped coming to this site. I’m out. Goodluck guys.

Because you can’t deal with different opinions?

Yes you did!:D

That’s fine leave, TP could do without another knuckle-headed newbie telling us all how he’s doing it right and we’re doing things wrong.

Take your bro science back to the bodybuilding boards where you can bump chests with the steroid jockeys who filled your head with this bunk in the first place.

Your beliefs are broscience as much as Thal’ ones, TGD; Thal has journed way earlier than you so apparently he is not a newbie. Now let me ask to some ENS if your post is as rude as it looks to me and I’ll be back.

Not gains, Mr. Phoenix, not gains in BPEL. Working out improved my erections, and my fat pad shrunk. So I gained NBPEL from working out because of my fat disappearing slowly. Not only that, my self-esteem boosted dramatically. So my gains benefited more psychological than physical. I’m much more mentally healthy. :)

Thal and TGD how about instead of arguing if either of you have any actual hard evidence ( ie links to studies or websites etc ) of the collagen remodelling process and how this applies to PE then please post it so
folks can discuss it properly or make up their own minds.

Isn’t that the whole point of a forum !

The point of forums generally is to support products or services.

Arguements stem from improper application of assertions, mostly via ad hominem comments.

Let’s keep the personal attacks and derision of opinion down and return to trying make our dicks bigger and reporting the methods and results.

Please.

Ok actually that post wasn’t that bad. Still not good though.

Let me make clear: everyone’ opinion on here is pretty much ‘broscience’ - my own too. There isn’t anything like ‘scientific knowledge’ of PE. There are a few things though we know we can use to back up our opinions, without resorting on name calling.

The penis is very different from any muscle; to demonstrate this, just think that even in people who are starving the penis doesn’t become smaller, differently from muscles. So the protein intake is not going to have any influence on the size of your penis once you are grown. Under the same perspective, even heavy administration of exogenous androgens isn’t going to make your penis grow - your muscles, yes, your penis not; there could be an indirect effect on how strong your erections are, it can lead to some litte temporary increse in size, but basically we can say the effects are about zero.

Add to that what is limiting the size of your penis is the Tunica Albuginea, which is very, very thin (and is not a muscle anyway); TA weighs a few grams, so increasing its lenght say 20% in 6 months (which would be a huge increase) would require a ridicolously low amount of food intake. For the same reasons, I don’t think any supplements is going to have any effect on the size of your penis. The sole supplement you need is elbow grease.

There may be several methodologies to get results, like concerning muscles actually. Some cyclists have great legs in spite of trainning on a daily basis a lot of hours, quite different from bodybuilding basics, as well as gymnastics do and so on. By the way the first don’t eat big amounts of protein.

PE could be similar in this sense, since there are a lot of different routines and methodologies translated into gains (namely, constant-relatively-low-intensity stimulus in the face of higher intensity and higher rest; more is more vs less is more; Xenolith’s SPR vs no rest or whatever). One of them is possibly the most suitable one for a single person, even it might be possible to find the most suitable ones for everyone, but I think the main reason for discrepancies is that there are several ways to get results, though is often hard to find them.

Marinera’s point concerning our opinions is really great. I also enjoyed Thal’s explanation about his PE methodology and findings, I guess his regresive “2 on 2 off 1 on 2 off” routine is more or less compatible with sparky’s, Xenolith’s, MX’s and other kind of ‘less is more’ researcher members as he said.

Cheers.

I wasn’t talking to you, dumbass.

But congratulations! Keep it up. ;)

Agreed with Thal and also men who gain easily from bodybuilding can also gain easy from PE

The two disciplines have nothing to do with each other. This statement is completely speculation and holds no water whatsoever.