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PE is just like Body Building

The similarities are amazing between Body Building and PE. The 3 most important things about Body Building are Training, Diet and Sleep. The same is true for PE. If you’re not gaining you are screwing up on one of the three.

I’m not talking about strength training or power lifting. That is a very important point. In fact putting to much stress on the penis (which is what power lifting is) will only toughen your collagen, not grow it. Just look at some of the strongest power lifters. Yes there bodies are huge, but there muscles don’t compare to that of a hypertrophy/body builder’s physique. Like Arnold Schwarzenegger. Looking at him you’d think he was the worlds strongest human. Yea he was strong of course. But not a power lifter. It’s called “Gymin for the Women”

You’re not trying to make your dick stronger, just make it bigger! I want you to reread that and really understand that point. Not trying to make your dick withstand more stress only enlarge it.

Building muscle is about Time Under Tension (TUT) not the amount of tension you put on it. Power lifting isn’t about time, its about quick powerful bursts and moving up in weight. I feel many PEers are just like confused body builders. Trying to do to much not gaining the size they want and causing injury to themselves.

After many years I have come to truly understand the foundation of PEing. It’s what the infamous “Less is More” post are referring to. As soon as you get a day with a weak erection you can be 100% sure that you have over trained. Thus you didn’t gain anything. You merely caused your body to make tougher collagen, which will make your gains harder in the future. The body is trying to protect the penis. You’re pulling and clamping on it to hard. So it sends more protein and vitamin C to repair the damaged tissue. After repair a tougher stronger tissue is left. Making your gains harder and harder in the future.

If you’re one of these guys who always gets weak erections from PEing, and you are wondering why you haven’t gained. My advice is take at least a month off, even two or three and come back to it. Or if you think you’ve been over training. Take a break.

My routine has got my dick bigger then ever right now. And I am doing the least I have ever done. 3 clamping sets on Saturday. 2 in the morning 1 evening. And maybe 3 sets on Sunday. Usually only 2 sets of clamping on Sunday. I do 1 set Wednesday. And that is all I’m doing.

1 clamp rep for me goes 5 min warm up, getting a solid erection, while doing some PC squeezes and manual clamping. During this stage I’m trying to get as big as possible before the clamp goes on. As soon as I think its ready and full I quickly put the wrap and clamp on. As to not lose any of the size I’ve been working on pre clamp. 5 mins in the clamp, then it comes off for 5 mins of manual clamps. And that’s it.

Diet, eat your body weight in protein. 1 gram per pound. So if you weigh 200lbs you need 200 grams of protein. May sound hard but if you’re having trouble pick up some Whey protein powder to get you to what you need. I get all my protein through food. And eat all different types of protein, not just one. Chicken, Tuna, Eggs, Milk, Beef. Along with this protein make sure you get vitamin C. Its crucial for collagen production. And humans can’t store or produce there own Vitamins C like most creatures on this planet. Get in some healthy fats, Polyunsaturated, Monounsaturated and regular Saturated fat. All these are crucial for Testosterone. Drink a gallon of water a day. I can’t state how important this is. A added bonus of this is your loads are gonna be huge. Seriously keep a towel by the bed cause she’s gonna need it after you start drinking this much water.Eat veggies and fruits. Eat whole foods and stay away from processed foods. Sleep 7-9 hours a day. This is when your body does repair and hormone release. And if you’re over weight drop those extra pounds. Simply cut your carbs and exercise. Easy way to lose weight, every morning get up and walk on an empty stomach. Your body has very little glycogen in the blood in the morning. So it has no choice other then to use what’s in your muscle and to use fat as fuel. And no carbs before bed. Just protein.

And that’s it. I hope I’ve helped some hard gainers out there. It’s all about erection quality. Don’t shrug off bad wood. It means you are over training plain and simple. When it happens take what ever you’ve been doing and do half that. I hope I have helped some people out.

Thanx thal! Good info :-)


Starting size: 7.48" X 5.51" Currently: 10.1" X 6.4"

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You don’t need much proteins to grow your dick.

Originally Posted by marinera
You don’t need much proteins to grow your dick.

For a non lifter its perfectly fine to eat 90% of your weight in protein. You want the amino acids available to repair your dick after each workout. True you don’t “need” the proteins because your body will break down tissue other places use those amino acids and repair your dick that way. It will break down muscle or one the first places your body breaks down tissue is actually the disc in your back. Your body is mainly water, then protein. So if you’re not taking enough protein in, do you think your body finds the penis necessary for survival?

Lets say your foot, heart and penis all need some repair. Your dick isn’t first on that list of “needed for survival”

Yeah, all my vertebral discs were consumed to grow my dick since I was eating less than 90% of my weight in protein.

:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by thal
I’m not talking about strength training or power lifting. That is a very important point. In fact putting to much stress on the penis (which is what power lifting is) will only toughen your collagen, not grow it. Just look at some of the strongest power lifters. Yes there bodies are huge, but there muscles don’t compare to that of a hypertrophy/body builder’s physique. Like Arnold Schwarzenegger. Looking at him you’d think he was the worlds strongest human. Yea he was strong of course. But not a power lifter. It’s called "Gymin for the Women"


You are wrong and you should look up sarcoplasmic hypertrophy and myofibrillar hypertrophy.

http://www.t-na tion.com/free_o … an_powerlifters
Muscle hypertrophy - Wikipedia

Originally Posted by thal
Building muscle is about Time Under Tension (TUT) not the amount of tension you put on it. Power lifting isn’t about time, its about quick powerful bursts and moving up in weight. I feel many PEers are just like confused body builders. Trying to do to much not gaining the size they want and causing injury to themselves.


This is also wrong, at least from my experience. When it comes to bodybuilding, I’ve seen the most improvement with progressive overload approach. My muscles grew the most when I managed to break that psychical barrier and increase workload on compound exercises.

Originally Posted by UpTo7
You are wrong and you should look up sarcoplasmic hypertrophy and myofibrillar hypertrophy.

http://www.t-na tion.com/free_o … an_powerlifters
Muscle hypertrophy - Wikipedia

This is also wrong, at least from my experience. When it comes to bodybuilding, I’ve seen the most improvement with progressive overload approach. My muscles grew the most when I managed to break that psychical barrier and increase workload on compound exercises.

While you should mix up going heavy with hypertrophy any true body builder will tell you its about TUT and not benching 300 lbs. Taken from the T nation link. Most of his points in the article are inclusive studies and he stats that a few times… and I’ve had already read this article before you linked me. All you have to do is look at the pictures and decide for yourself.

"Bottom line is, bodybuilders seem better at high reps with a smooth cadence, whereas powerlifters seem more adept at low reps performed explosively.

Mr. Olympia Jay Cutler wrote some very honest and forthright commentary on strength and muscular size in his Muscular Development column in 2010. He listed his all-time best lifts along with his current strength. He used to train with much heavier weights several years back, but he’s more muscular now than he was back when he was much stronger. While he still goes heavy, these days he focuses more on quality than quantity"

I’m guessing your reps at a lighter weight were to quick. Most guys put on lighter weight and start going super fast. 1-2 seconds a rep. Look at the TUT. Its natural to pick up a light dumbbells lay back on the bench and start doing these explosive reps. As if you had heavier dumbbells in your hand. But to do a 5 sec rep with a light weight that is body building. Bringing yourself to failure with a lighter weight. It might not work for you. But for me it avoids joint pain, brings my heart rate up and I can really feel that lactic acid build up. Which is so important for mass gain and growth hormone.

We are all different. Your body isn’t like mine. Great video by one of the best youtube guys on lifting and he’s good on general life advice. Check him out but watch this

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Last edited by thal : 05-05-2013 at .

I just wanted to say that powerlifters have plenty of muscle, it’s just not as prominent as bodybuilders’ muscle because they usually have more fat to accompany it and their muscle is more dense and less bloated (difference between myofibrillar and sarcoplasmic hypertrophy). Coincidentally, myofibrillar muscle is harder to gain and harder to lose compared to sarcoplasmic muscle.

I dislike comparing weight lifting to PE in general because there’s no muscle in penis at all. People seem to think they’re similar because both use weights/force and require time and dedication. There might be some similar principles involved, but at the core, they’re not same at all.

Also, I used my experience as an example because I keep repetitions in 7-10 range and do sets until failure. When I started increasing weights, my muscles finally started to grow. This especially goes for bench press and squats where relatively big weights are in question so there are mental blockades involved that you need to overcome.

Originally Posted by UpTo7
I just wanted to say that powerlifters have plenty of muscle, it’s just not as prominent as bodybuilders’ muscle because they usually have more fat to accompany it and their muscle is more dense and less bloated (difference between myofibrillar and sarcoplasmic hypertrophy). Coincidentally, myofibrillar muscle is harder to gain and harder to lose compared to sarcoplasmic muscle.

I dislike comparing weight lifting to PE in general because there’s no muscle in penis at all. People seem to think they’re similar because both use weights/force and require time and dedication. There might be some similar principles involved, but at the core, they’re not same at all.

Also, I used my experience as an example because I keep repetitions in 7-10 range and do sets until failure. When I started increasing weights, my muscles finally started to grow. This especially goes for bench press and squats where relatively big weights are in question so there are mental blockades involved that you need to overcome.

Fair enough. But I was comparing not muscle but the Training diet and recovery that body building has to have. As I stated at the start. Traction which is what we are doing shouldn’t be applied to the point of causing the body to build stronger reenforced collagen.

Muscle and the tissue in the penis one and the same…. collagen and the bodies ability to recover and build bigger then before. Pushing the body just far enough to grow but not damage it. There is a sweet spot that you must find between training to little and training to much. This is the same in PE and Body Building. So for me that is the core of gains.

I can understand this. :) I saw some really good results when I was working out a lot more. It may have just been me though.


5.3" NBPEL.

BPEL 6.5-6.7" Goal: Anything!

Girth: 5" but getting bigger. ;)

So what gains have you had?

Although I understand the comparison in the sense there has to be a routine and dedication the goals are dramatically different. PE is about the blood and improving blood carrying tissue. So, it is a much slower process and the physiology of the problem is a completely different arena. The penis is so small in a relative sense and the goals are completely different. But, if you have been successful at bodybuilding, the success paradigm can easily transfer to PE. There is a commitment and regiment that needs to be followed. Of course the outcomes are also different. Once your penis is big you can pretty much retire, in bodybuilding it is a lifetime kind of activity. Weight resistance is an exercise that must be employed for a lifetime.


Take anything and everything that DutyQuest has posted with a large grain of salt.

Haha, I have thought about this too. PE is definitely quite somewhat like bodybuilding.

Not trying to be contradictory, but Brian Shaw is a monster, bigger than any bodybuilder. 6’ 8” and 440lbs. Plus as far as powerlifting/strength, you never see a small guy squatting 500lb+.

As far as making the penis strong and not growing, I think I may have to slightly disagree. I think for the most part, strengthening the penis can indeed make it larger, but obviously this is not the primary goal.

Second, weight lifting over training is when the CNS is fatigued and overworked, not the muscles. I have gotten to the point in my weight lifting where I almost never feel sore, yet I cannot work out every day or I’ll be mentally fatigued and start falling sick. PE puts no strain on the CNS, so once it is conditioned, I see nothing limiting how often you can PE (as long is the tissue recovers fully between workouts).

Those are the two very important differences worth noting when approaching PE like bodybuilding. It’s similar, but still quite different.

Bro science is at it again.


Bpel: 8", Bpeg: 6", Mbeg: 5.75", Meg: 5.5", Aheg: 5.25", Heg: 4.5" - 11/18/11

Bpel: 8", Bpeg: 6", Mbeg: 5.875", Meg: 5.63", Aheg: 5.38", Heg: 4.75" - 5/18/12

Bpel:+1/4", Bpeg:6", Mbeg: 5.875", Meg:+1/16", Aheg: +1/16", Heg: +1/16" - 6/18/12

Watch out for modern whey powder, it is filled with nasty byproducts bad for the brain and kidneys, So are artificial flavors. I don’t care if you believe me, I’m strong and cut and try to go Meditterranean on the diet, good overall for heart, brain, and penis and quite natural. (Use rice, hemp powder, or even egg whites. Less processing means no marketing campaign convincing you to buy brain damaging excitotoxins that are “micronized!”)

I have been all over the place in EQ. That’s a result of arginine, blood flow, and so many complicated things. But when I started consuming ginger, garlic, ginseng, ginko, maca, muira puiama, astralagus, sarspadilla, fo-ti, feverfew, fenugreek, hops strobule, cinnamon, licorice, linden, hawthorn, et cetera plus vitamins, a funny thing happened.

(Gong smashing.) My boners were shot, they are quite healthy now. I also committed to PC exercise and overall rock solid physical fitness.

My boners are bigger. I measure above 5 girth consistently, just last night I got a nice thick measure of circumference. And I started life nearly suicidal because of so-so, nothing to write home about girth. And a small flaccid. Now my dick is bigger soft or hard, Not from taking it easy, or monitering EQ. Obviously that has some place, but severe stress induces changes. My extender was painful sometimes, but i wear it now with more rods than a year ago.

That cock filling up my palm, that soothing sensation of loving life and my dick and expanding in mass? That was no trick, that was a whole ton of daily work. That is why my dick is bigger, not because of days off. Anyway its proven in all extender studies, more time means more stress and response, meaning bigger dick.

Seriously train your ass off if you want a dick that changes your life. Get to know it so you can recover properly, definitely a noble goal. But unfortunately more work equals more dick.


Start: 5.75 x 4.5 Current: 7 x 5.25

Such Spartan training is for the champ. -Bruce Lee

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