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Originally Posted by XL.com
I did a.few.days at 20 min. Of jelqing and that was not good for me. I wanted to see how things would go.

Diminished eq.and some.girth shrinkage. Ill rest and count the days when all seems better.

I think the smooth tissue takes longer to heal (or whatever takes place) to press against the tunica when girth work is intense.

I think 10 min. Every other day would be a better cadence.

If that’s where you want to start, then that’s perfectly fine. Just keep an eye on those PIs and your body will let you know when you’re ready to increase it. 10 minutes at 3 seconds each is 200 jelqs, and I think that’s a fine place to start. 400 probably is too much for any beginner. When you’re PIs improve, you can simply bump it up 1 minute at a time.

In my opinion (which is certainly arguable), jelqs are more of a blood vessel builder than anything. You’re shocking the vessels and encouraging them to get bigger, and you have to build up gradually. I pump, but I also jelq for that reason, and I’m seeing vessel growth from a total of 300 per day along with pumping. To give some proof to that, do five minutes and then take a two minute rest and look at the difference before completing the other five minutes. During that two minutes, the veins will swell, and then they’ll deflate when you start again. After the second five minutes, they’ll swell even more. After a few weeks, you’ll have new veins popping up everywhere.


Start: Oct '16 - 6.75" BPEL, 4.875" MSEG

Current: Oct 15, '22 - 7.875" BPEL, 5.875" MSEG

GOAL: 8" BPEL X 6" MSEG

Originally Posted by FixerUpper
If that’s where you want to start, then that’s perfectly fine. Just keep an eye on those PIs and your body will let you know when you’re ready to increase it. 10 minutes at 3 seconds each is 200 jelqs, and I think that’s a fine place to start. 400 probably is too much for any beginner. When you’re PIs improve, you can simply bump it up 1 minute at a time.

In my opinion (which is certainly arguable), jelqs are more of a blood vessel builder than anything. You’re shocking the vessels and encouraging them to get bigger, and you have to build up gradually. I pump, but I also jelq for that reason, and I’m seeing vessel growth from a total of 300 per day along with pumping. To give some proof to that, do five minutes and then take a two minute rest and look at the difference before completing the other five minutes. During that two minutes, the veins will swell, and then they’ll deflate when you start again. After the second five minutes, they’ll swell even more. After a few weeks, you’ll have new veins popping up everywhere.

I started with citulline malate powder yesterday. I report any differences.

Have u seen any widening effect by the sandwich style?


Goal 7.5 x 6.5

Start 4/22 6 x 5.25 BG

Current 11/22 6 x 5.5 BG 4-7/8" MG

Originally Posted by XL.com
I started with citulline malate powder yesterday. I report any differences.

Have u seen any widening effect by the sandwich style?

I don’t think it’s been long enough to tell the difference yet. I do like how well they focus on the CCs, though.

They don’t hit the superficial tissue very well, so I’m keeping regular jelqs in the mix with them, along with the light tension 440’s. Seems like a good combo


Start: Oct '16 - 6.75" BPEL, 4.875" MSEG

Current: Oct 15, '22 - 7.875" BPEL, 5.875" MSEG

GOAL: 8" BPEL X 6" MSEG

Originally Posted by naz.barb
Isn’t smaller size right after workout a neutral PI? It probably is just due to psychological factors/impression

I’ve thought a lot about the psychological factors with PE.

A little off topic here but I’m curious about the body’s reaction to PE, a persons standard amount of ‘tension’ they experience, and how they can/will exacerbate each other.

I’m sure most TP members are more than aware of a stressed body’s slower ability to heal, much less actually improve, and how much of this can be tied to a stressed mind.

I don’t have much of a sample size, but it seems that when I take time during my day to practice mindful breathing I can feel my penis relax, especially after a workout. I think it’s safe to assume that this can and will aid improvement. Has anybody else experienced this and can you provide further input?

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