Penis Surgery and Cotton

When I get a thought, sometimes it takes years to work through the cotton. This is one of those not quite fully formed thoughts, and I am posting here to try and tease it out. So please, pull away at it.

I was a hard gainer. 2 years = 1/8 inch I think. Then I got phalloplasty surgery. I think the process was to cut most of the suspensory ligaments, leaving only one or two. Well, at the time I considered it a total wash because I lost an inch erect length. In the 2 years and 4 months since, I have gained that inch back, plus another inch and almost three quarters. Now being slow, it didn’t really register with me that I had actually gained more than an inch a year. Yes I saw the numbers, but as I said I am slow. I didn’t really “feel” the increase until a few weeks ago, despite the ruler. I went to sleep with the same old dick, and when I took a piss in the morning a big one was in it’s place. Slow, that’s me.

Now here is the incomplete thought. Was my phalloplasty a complete waste of money after all? I went from slow gainer to fast gainer. At this rate, when my 3 year anniversary comes, I will be over 2 inches longer than before the surgery. That’s what, 3/4 inch a year (including the made up inch)? Heck, by September (the anniversary) I may even be an inch a year. And before the surgery, what - 1/16?

Now, surely my intensity and dedication went through the roof when I found I had lost an inch. Perhaps I would have gained this much just from that. I mean, I went from putting in half an hour a day to hours a day. So perhaps this cotton piece is just fluff. But what if, just what if, that $3,500 changed me from a slow to fast gainer? All the sudden, I am not feeling so bad about the investment. And I am wondering, where would I be if I had known enough to hang after surgery instead of doing the tugs the doctor recommended? Is this cotton piece of thought worthy of being pulled out and examined? Well?

I had both the lengthening and fat injection for girth done… what a nightmare…I had huge gains in the begining, (went from 7, to 8 inches in the begining) scar tissue and post op infection caused me to lose all my gain, until discovering “Thunders”. I’ve been applying technigues used here,since October, and went from 7inches bpel, to just shy of 8 inches bp. Since having the ligs cut, my lot is like at 8, so i found Bibs theory to be quite helpful in achieving gains. I’m focusing on length, have a current girth of just under 6 inches. final goal: 9x6 You guys are the best!!!! Do I think surgery makes us easy gainers, mabe, but remeber we always have the scar tissue to work past on the ligs, and tunica work with a low lot seems to be appropriate.

pleaser4unow,
Are you able to jelq? I was wondering how the girth portion of the procedure would affect PE exersizes such as jelqing or pumping.

Also, how long did it take the fat to “set”, and are your erections just as firm as before or are they kind of soft to the touch?

Hey Pirate,

I think the good news is that this would be a time to relieve your mind of the thought that you wasted money on the surgery. The evidence speaks for itself. After two years of little gain, you did what you thought best. Unfortunately, it wasn’t the quickest solution but here you are now more than two years down the road from that moment and voila!

Time to watch the interest from your investment grow! LOL

Hey, it’s Wood again! You are right of course, the interest has been piling up…

Sounds like you have a bull market going on in your pants. No, wait, you don’t have any pants, so that means you have a free swinging market.

Is this a tax free investment? Or do you have to give some of it over to Uncle Sam?

Piratesteve,

How is your erection angle after the surgery and all the ligaments stretches?

Titan, I like to think of it as a Free Range Penis. And my Uncle S. took already from the other head, so he leaves this one alone.

Magnum, after surgery and years of lig stretches my LOT is a solid 8, and my erection angle is 10. If I can recall, after surgery my erection angle dropped only marginally from it’s original 11:30 to say 11. The doctor said he reattached one ligament to keep that angle. I was kind of pissed, because I wanted it around 9. I am guessing that one ligament has been much of my difficulty, but I am not certain of that. Of course, now that I am hanging all that will probably go out the window.

Pirate,

Why did you want a 9 o’clock erection angle? I thought, the higher, the better.

Magnum,

All my life, leading up to the surgery anyway, there were some sex positions I really enjoyed, but were either painful or impossible due to my erection angle. Now that I have brought it down, I can enjoy these much more readily. So for some, higher may be better. As for me - I like it low.

Pirate, it sounds like they cut all the ligaments, then pull the penis forward, then attach the back lig to the front lig.

I think an erection angle of 9:30-10:30 is best.

Gottagrow,

That sounds exactly like the explanation my doctor gave me. Still don’t know how that would actually shrink my poor pirate penis. Perhaps my penis is as retarded as I am :idiot:

Pirate, the shrinkage would have happened from scar tissue forming on the ligs in a recoiled state. They say to stretch your dick daily after surgery, but I think the key is a light stretch for long periods of time, so hanging would be best. The longer the ligs stay in a slightly stretched state during each day, the more the ligs will heal in that state and if scar tissue does form, it will form without shorteining the ligs much. Stretching for 30 mins each day might not be enough after surgery. It probably needs prolongued periods of each day with a light to medium stretch.

If the ligs do shorten from scar tissue under the wrong conditions, it would shorten the external penis because it would pull the penis back as they shorten, as it now has a hollow behind the penis to pull it back to. If the ligs shortened before any penis is pulled out from PE or surgery, it would not shorten the penis as it would not have anywhere to pull the penis further back to.

Chas…. the fat injections dissapate over time, but you do hv residual scar tissue which does give you more girth. My cock was absolutley HUGE after surgery… even after the swelling went down, it was a big test for the wife to take it, but after time it went to a more normal state, but is definetly thicker.. (currently just a shy under 6”) I do use a Power Jelq now.. no problem.. I use an ads device, power jelq, and hang… (I figure if I do it all I can’t miss) i started pe in October and started at 7” in length, and am just shy of 8”…

Pleaser, Nice that you could recover almost an inch in just 3 months. I hope you continue and let us know how well you get past that point. It is good to hear your story, and know that not everybody has a bad experience with the huge investment in surgery. I know you haven’t posted much yet, but there are a whole lot of lurkers that are very interested in surgery. What you and I and other surgery veterans share can mean a lot to them. Can I ask who was your doctor? And how much you paid? I am sure inquiring minds want to know. Also, would tell us if you thought it was worth the trouble and expenditure? Thanks, there is just not enough information from us surgery maniacs!

Speaking of that, I had lengthening only in 2001 from Dr Giunta . I paid $3500. I am still eating beans and rice because of it. And until I posted this, I was thinking it was a complete waste. Now I am not so sure. Follow along and maybe we will all learn something about the most expensive (and perhaps dangerous) PE there is. I will say I liked the doctor, he promised me nothing I did not get, he did a wonderful job in that recovery was quick, scarring was minimal, and my penis was not mutilated. He has also always been very good at emails and communication. I just wish he had suggested more than just regular tugging to keep the length. If I did it again, I would wear an ADS constantly post-surgery for sure (and the only two ADS I have ever really had success with are the Circle Device and my own collaboration with CaptnHook the Pegleg - but there are a lot of other cool ones worth looking at in this list collected by Stevie31 too).

Gottagrow, assuming what you say is what happened to me (and from the sounds of it, it is exactly what happened) Would that make subsequent PE easier (my original cotton pulling thought) or harder because of the scarring? Is it your opinion my gains since surgery are more due to the increased intensity, or the fewer attachments? I am very interested in your thoughts on this one.