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PLEASE HELP- 18 months and no gains

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Originally posted by YGuy
How hard were you stretching in the past? And generally how long would your stretching routine last?

Its all in my 1st post at top. tried diff routines but all about 30mins worth of stretching (using reps). And stretching so hard my glans were hurting with the presure I was using to pull my dick out. Infact I now strctch so hard I can’t maintain the grip for more than 30sec.

Don’t know if this means anything to anybody but after I’d do a stretch my dick would be longer as soon as I let go of the stretch but it would slowly retract to its normal size within a few seconds (i could visually see this happen). Another thing when I strectch I can never feel any stretching sensation of the ligaments, no matter how hard I pull.

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Originally posted by Pen15
This has got me confused. I worked out that I had low LOT but my cock shoots up at about 10 or 11' o' clock when hard. I can point it even higher with a PC squeeze.

So do I have a low LOT???

You can have a low LOT and yet have a high erection angle. Unless I’m mistaken DLD claims a LOT of 6:00 yet a high erection angle, for example. (Sorry DLD if I got that wrong, but I recall that on a thread of yours).


Ciao

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Originally posted by Pen15

So do I have a low LOT???

Look for the visual of the tug back. When it stops tugging back, thats your LOT. If it is infact 6 o’clock, you should be doing SO and upper angles. If you don’t want to give hanging a shot, you can do it through manual stretches or A-stretches, as long as you’re stretching above your LOT.

I agree with Mike, in that I’d do PE atleast 5 days per week. Just make sure you’re getting a quality stretch each set. I also do 30 second sets, and I’ve gained mostly through that. I would recommend atleast 15 sets of stretching in various upper angles. (I do over 30 sets, but I’m nuts)

You might want to measure before and after PE session, to see if you notice any difference. You should notice a temporary increase in length. If there’s no difference, I don’t think you’re getting quality workouts.


"It doesn't matter where you start, it only matters where you end up."

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Originally posted by YGuy
Look for the visual of the tug back. When it stops tugging back, thats your LOT. If it is infact 6 o'clock, you should be doing SO and upper angles. If you don't want to give hanging a shot, you can do it through manual stretches or A-stretches, as long as you're stretching above your LOT.

I agree with Mike, in that I'd do PE atleast 5 days per week. Just make sure you're getting a quality stretch each set. I also do 30 second sets, and I've gained mostly through that. I would recommend atleast 15 sets of stretching in various upper angles. (I do over 30 sets, but I'm nuts)

That sounds interesting YGuy. What’s SO?

Also, would you mind giving me a bit more detail so I could use it as a workout. i.e. what directions?, is that 15 *30sec sets each direction?, what directions-positions-technique do you use to do the A-stretch for tunica stretching? and would you say I should do it 5 days in a row or use a split?

cheers.

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Originally posted by YGuy
You might want to measure before and after PE session, to see if you notice any difference. You should notice a temporary increase in length. If there's no difference, I don't think you're getting quality workouts.

Is that the flaccid or erect length I should be measuring? or both?

SO means Straight Out. (9:00) SU straight up, OTS over the shoulder etc etc


Ciao

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Also, would you mind giving me a bit more detail so I could use it as a workout. i.e. what directions?, is that 15 *30sec sets each direction?, what directions-positions-technique do you use to do the A-stretch for tunica stretching? and would you say I should do it 5 days in a row or use a split?

Yea 15 sets of 30 second stretches. If it feels like too much sets, start lower and work your way up. Add sets as you get more accustomed to the routine.

I hold the A stretch over a 90 degree angle, just for SO. I use manual stretching for the other angles, SU, left, right, and a few sets of SO. Most of my sets are SU.(atleast 16 sets alone of SU)

I would use a split. I just focus on getting 5 workout days per week. Usually I can’t go 3 straight days with my routine. By then my dick is completely worn out. Go by feel. Try 3on/1off. Depending on how your dick feels, extend to 4on/1off, etc.

I include 25mins of jelqing directly after. You can split that up if you want, or do it right after the stretch routine. But you should do 10mins or so of jelqing after a heavy stretch routine, to restore circulation.

And you should be doing your kegels.

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Is that the flaccid or erect length I should be measuring? or both?

I would measure your Bone Pressed Flaccid Stretch, as a way to mark progress. Measure before and after. Check the correlation between ELBP(erect length bp) and FSBP.


"It doesn't matter where you start, it only matters where you end up."

Your either doin something wrong or you have a stubbern dick

BigNastY,

I just have to know bro. What year is it where you are right now? Do you somehow have access to Thunders from 3 years ago or something? I’ve seen 4 threads in the past 30 minutes that you have returned from the grave lol. Seriously, I’m not trying to be a dick or anything I’m just curious.


New to the place? Start here.

This is me in case you ever want to know what kind of psycho you're dealing with.

Try alternating, from the jels, to stretching, to hanging, to pumping, to vacs.

I’d say drop it Pen15. If it’s not working after that amount of time then it means its not going to work for you.


WMW

Dude, this thread is 5 years old. Not likely he’s still around.


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Louis Pasteur

Ha haha :head: .


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