Point at which you feel kegal

Bigger,

I loose the tugback at 8:00.

On and off for 3 years, curent size, 7inches erect, by 5.5 erect girth.

Dimensions: 5” x 5” (BP/midshaft)
PE exp: none
Gains: none

Erection angle: 10:00
LOT: 10:00

Wow, I am excited now because of all the talk of high LOT=high gain potential.

Anyone have a lig stretch routine that has worked well?

I’ve been at it for 4 mos—quite surprised at response
currently: FL 3.5, FG 4.5
EBPL 6.875, EG 5.25
Gains: EL 1.125”
EG 0.75”
Hang 8lbs x 30 min: wet jelqx200,pump 15min @ 5hg
Penismaster x 4hrs daily

Erect angle—10

sorry—forgot myLOT is 8

LOT is 8:00
bpel 7.0
eg- 5.5

This is my 1st month of pe

LOT is about 9:00. That’s where the tug back seems to stop.

6.8 BPEL x 5.4 EG (17.4 x 13.7)

6.1 EG at the base

Erection angle by the clock is also 8:00 :( . It has decreased with age.

Start date for PE is 01-20-04

KO let me start with I am a total newbee.

I started PE about a month and a half ago. At that time I didn’t know how to measure my penis. So there is no reliable measurement to start with. I do however know that I have had some rather spectacular gains in size and girth since I figured out how to measure.

Started @ 6.25 BPE
5.5
Now @ 7.04 BPE
5.75

Now that I have finally figured out the LOT concept I have come to the conclusion that, there is not a lot more for me to gain by BTC hanging at this time. I think my time would be better spent on other hanging procedures.

I started w/ small weights and rapidly moved to 17lbs. , At that point I found that fatigue set in after three twenty-minute sets, I work at PE every morning except weekends. (The bird is home). Also work every other day w/ sets in the PM. Have done some jel work but mostly hang for my PE workouts.

This stuff is great it works for me and I am much happier than I was two months ago.

As I understand the LOT theory I would say that my perceived LOT is about 9:00 w/ absolutely nothing at 6:00. The tug is noticeably less at 9:00 than at 11:00

Erection was and still is at 10:30

Hey you guys are great and thank you for all the help. I sit here and observe what is going on every day and I have learned a tremendous amount in a short time.

PS. the bird thanks you too although she is not sure why just yet!! HEEE

pooch,

If your LOT is 9:00, you should still have some gains to come from lig stretch at the lower angles, especially BTC. You might stick with that.

Bigger

OK Bib I will stick w/ the BTL for a while yet.

I think I have the fatigue thing down now. At first I thought I was there with small weights and short sets. But as time went on I found that I was getting much better gain w/ more weight. Sometimes I get to the point were I can’t finish a set, just too extreme. Have had a little bit of problem w/ fluid build up but got that straightened out with proper wrap and making a hanger similar to the ones you market.

Question.

Is there a point were you should quit for say two or three months and then go back to a strenuous routing? The idea here is to let everything relax and soften, up so to speak.

How much time should I stay with my routine in order to cement my gains? I am religious about my workouts and have had some nice gains (to my mind.) At this point I do not want to loose the work I have put in.

Regards Pooch

Bib,

Just noted my LOT this morning at 7:00. I have a real strong pull at 8:00. Guess I’m not going to be getting any easy gains :(

I’ve been in PE for about 3 months, no gains yet….. ~6.25EL/ 5.6EG…Hopefully I won’t be stuck in the under 7” crowd for the rest of my life…..

Do you think there may be an exercise to raise the LOT?

Later,,

pooch,

>Is there a point were you should quit for say two or three months and then go back to a strenuous routing? The idea here is to let everything relax and soften, up so to speak. <

There are several good threads in this section concerning extended breaks and their benefits. I never had to do this, but I believe there is merit in it, especially for hard gainers. There is no doubt that with time off, your tissues will ‘atrophy’, and return to prePE normalcy.

>How much time should I stay with my routine in order to cement my gains? I am religious about my workouts and have had some nice gains (to my mind.) At this point I do not want to loose the work I have put in.<

At least a month or two. You really will not know till you begin your break. However, if they are not cemented, they will quickly return upon re-starting.

Russell,

>Do you think there may be an exercise to raise the LOT?<

Any exercise, generally hanging or stretching at the upper angles, that provides stresses to the tunica, should cause the entire tunica, both inner and outer to become longer. As the inner tunica stretches/grows, it should raise your LOT. Then you can work on lig stretch.

Bigger

Well as for me, i started to lose my tug back feeling starting from 0800, 0600 feels nothing at all but sensation of blood flow and slight pain around my base to balls if i pull it. So which sort of exercise or direction should i concentrate during the stretches?
Here’s my exercise :
5-10 min Hot Wrap
5 min Power Stretch [ Kegels ]
5 min DLD Stretch [ Reverse kegels ]
5-10 min Towel Raise for 5 times, 20s each
10-15 min Jelqs
5-10 min Fowfer or Testicles massage
5 min Hot Shower

So is there any of the exercise i should spend more time on, or change it to others, or any exercise should i add in my routines ?
Thanks for the feedback
Frnkmx

Fell nothing at 6.00. I am PEing about 8 week.

BPEL 6.25
EG 4.75

Been Peing since may Surious since july

but most tug back at 12:00

Slight to none at 6:00

What does it mean Bib?

i have alot of tu back untill i get to 6:00.

Thanks

I’m eager to compliment this theory with the routines found in this community =)

I’m a newbie PEer, started just yesterday and I’m really enjoying stretching, so much more than Jelqing haha.

Starting Dimensions

FL: Hard to tell cause I get stimulated so easily that when I’m about to measure it, it starts growing lol.

EL:5.5”

EG:4.5”

Erection Angle 10:00

LOT:Very low.. I can actually still see a tiny bit of tugback even at 6”00.darn ligs though stretching upwards does feel better for me than stretching downwards..

Any advice would be appreciated.