Question About Stretching Theory.

Can someone move this to the Main Members Forum….( I can’t post there yet - not enough priviledges yet).

Considering the anatomy of the penis, it seems that tunica stretching occurs during any of the stretching techniques. Even If one has a high LOT, when stretching at a low angle, he would pull and stretch the ligaments to their max (meaning their max at that time). As he stretches, stress is also exerted throughout the tunica that is distal to the attachment of the ligaments at the base of the penis. Therefore tunica stretching still occurs. This should be especially true for those with low LOTs….or those who formerly had high LOTs but stretching lowered it. If the ligaments are so long or low that your LOT is low, then when stretching at a low angle….what is absorbing the force due to stretching? The fibrous tunica.

I do understand that stretching should include low and high angles, but to ensure a more evenly stretched tunica.

What say the vets about this?

Note - I am a newbie. However, I am somewhat knowledgable about physics and anatomy.

I’m not sure if you’re asking a question or making a statement that you want others to agree with. I think you’re correct that the tunica will take some stress during manual stretches even if you think you’re working on the ligaments.

Do you feel this is good, bad, helpful, or perhaps not giving the ligs as much stress as you’d like? If one is going to pull on his dick from behind the head, the tunica will no doubt be involved. The ligs will still get a workout, but perhaps not as much as one would think.

Would grasping the penis closer to the base make a difference? I don’t know… probably. Perhaps a “whole hand” grasping the penis and pulling only the base would make it better. Someone should do an experiment.

Yeah…I am making a statement. And asking for thoughts from others…opposing or agreeing.

The reason I am posting this is because of the suggestion of stretching high for low LOT and stretching low for high LOT. Besides, I would like to use the hanging technique so I was hoping to get enough input from the vets on my “hypothesis”. As of now, I am doing what the vets have already suggested. depending on what you’re input is, however, My routine may start to include some hanging. :D

“There was a thread awhile back that illustrated the respective forces depending on the angle of hang. It explained everything using illustrations.

I’ll sum it up.

Using a straight down hang or BTC, the majority of the force if not all of it is on the ligs and they will be taut due to this. Yes you are correct, some force may be on the tunica, but the MAJORITY of it lies on the ligs at the anchor point.

As the angle rises, the force is decreased on the ligs and is increased on the tunica. Finishing at the top, with a OTS hang, all of the force lies on the tunica and ligs receive no stress and they are loose and there is lots of slack.

So again to answer your question, yes you are correct, but for optimal hanging the above applies.”

Where is BBS? :)

scratch,

>Considering the anatomy of the penis, it seems that tunica stretching occurs during any of the stretching techniques. Even If one has a high LOT, when stretching at a low angle, he would pull and stretch the ligaments to their max (meaning their max at that time). As he stretches, stress is also exerted throughout the tunica that is distal to the attachment of the ligaments at the base of the penis. Therefore tunica stretching still occurs.<

You are correct in your observations. When writing about the tunica, I try to always be specific in siting the inner tunica or outer tunica as it relates to angle of hang, ligs, and LOT. The outer tunica will always receive stress with just about any exercise. It is the inner tunica that can be shortchanged in stress, by the ligs.

The only reason for a guy to know his LOT is to know the angle of hang or stretch that will be most efficient. A guy with a low LOT that stretches solely downward will place stress on the ligs which will not help him produce gains within the inner tunica. Depending on the LOT and angle of stress, some stress may be placed on the inner tunica, but it will probably be lessened by the ligs.

A guy with a high LOT can make gains from stretching or hanging upward. But he will probably make more gains, faster, by stretching the ligs, and lowering his exit point.

>This should be especially true for those with low LOTs….or those who formerly had high LOTs but stretching lowered it. If the ligaments are so long or low that your LOT is low, then when stretching at a low angle….what is absorbing the force due to stretching? The fibrous tunica.<

If your LOT is naturally very low, say 6:00, then you may not engage the ligs at any angle except true BTC. But I do not believe this would be the case for very many guys. For the vast majority of guys, the ligs will engage at some point, and the stresses will be divided, lessening for the inner tunica, and therefore lessening the opportunity for inner tunica deformation.

If an LOT is low due to a good bit of lig work, then whatever the angle of hang that produced that low LOT will still be engaging the ligs at that angle, thereby lessening the stresses on the inner tunica.

>I do understand that stretching should include low and high angles, but to ensure a more evenly stretched tunica.<

This point would raise the question; what regimen, concerning the angle of hang, would produce the most gains? My opinion is, if you stress the tunica at all angles every day, you might semi-deform many, if not all, of the tissues of the tunica. But I believe a more effective route, especially if a guy has limited time, is to stress the tissues of the tunica at one angle for months, completely fatiguing that one set of tissues consistantly, causing permanent deformation. Then, move on to another angle and repeat the process for months. Divide and conquer.

A simple division of structures to be stressed could look something like this: Skin, inner tunica, outer tunica, ligs, left CC, right CC, CS. But even individual tissues within these structures can be divided.

The tough tissues of the penis, the collagenous tissues are also the toughest limiting factors concerning gains. PE is acheived through CONTROLLED damage. Without actually severely tearing the collagenous tissues, it takes a good amount of time and stress to affect these tissues. I believe that concentrating effort on one area at a time will cause permanent deformation better than attempting to concentrate on all areas at the same time.

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So BIB you would recommend stretching to only one position at a higher angle, if I wanted to focus on tunica gains.