Should one sacrifice length exercises for girth

Ok, so I am 7.25” (give or take) x 5”.

If I want to be fatter, should my main focus be on girth exercises versus even doing length exercises.

From what I have read, doing dry jelqs, clamping, and horse squeezes are what are good for girth, whereas wet jelqing, stretching, etc.. Are good for length.

Keep in mind, I always stretch regardless before doing anything.

But.is it smart to mix both, or is it ok to do 1 or the other?

Thanks

I have never done any jelqing dry and the majority of my gains are a result of jelqing.

With regards to jelqing, I don’t think it depends as much on the type of jelqing as the erection level. My erection level while jelqing is always 75-95% and I think that the higher your erection level, the more you are going to be working girth.

I am not sure what you are asking when you say mix both, I assume you mean stretching and any girth exercise. According to XLMagnum, stretching before any type of girth workout is going to help your unit to be more pliable and therefore easier to make gains.

If you want to start concentrating on girth more, then you need to do exercises that hit girth better. Erect jelqs, clamping, squeezes, bends, sad sak slinky, etc…

When working girth hard, you want to make sure that you put light days in between intense workout days. And yes, you should stretch before girth exercises.

Thanks guys.

No, one should sacrifice a young calf on the new moon after 3 hours of meditation and horse squeezes.

For real the less erect you are when jelqing the more length you gain? Damn I’ll have to start doing my jelqs at a lower erection level I wanna focus on length.

Be sure of what you are doing. Try to get most of your length 1st, then work on girth later.

It does not matter if you want to mix or isolate. It is true that concentrating on length exercises will sacrifice some small amount of girth gains. Based on your stats, I would think you would want more girth (if you have excess capacity).

Your girth exercises should concentrate on maximizing expansion. Contrary to the above post, it would be best for you to jelq at an erection level below 50%. This is a bit of a misnomer, we should be talking about engorgement levels, you want your penis to be fully engorged but in a flaccid or near flaccid state. In this way when pressure is applied maximum expansion can be achieved, thereby weakening your balloon to accomodate more blood.

A fully engorged penis will hang down low and be close to maximum girth. This condition is absent arousal, if you squeeze hard at the base of your penis the resulting pressure will straighten out your cock into an erector (minus arousal). PE is best done in these 100% tumescent states completely lacking the hardness that is created by arousal and the venal valves shutting down. A lot of people here mistake this condition as being their new flaccid size, it is only an engorged member, as engorgement is continued your nearly full length starts to periscope as a condition of the appendage filling with blood.

In this state of engorgement you can get at nice girth gains and an improved and larger helmet. PE exercises are best done in this limp and engorged state, there are some exercises that promote widening of the arterioles (bigger pipes) that are best done under erect states. Erect and engorged are different animals and should be differentiated in this game of “a bigger boner.” Hang long, hang tough.

How does one achieve this engorged state??

90% + erect jelqing = targets ?
50% + semierect jelq = targets ?

I know this has been discussed many many times before, but the more I seem to read, the more twisted the story gets. Thanks in advance.

man_dingo :)

States of engorgement are achieved at low arousal levels. You want to “fluff” or massage your package to stimulate blood flow/engorging process. Jelqing or milking strokes help fill out the spaces of your chambers. An erection results after neural activity takes the state of arousal to a level that venal valves shut down in concert with maximal pressure which results in a rising erection angle. You want to avoid this due to the supreme hardness that results, a stiff pipe will not lend itself to manipulation.

Quality erections are always achieved through a slow build-up of arousal and the milking of the penis to take in as much blood as possible. Stunted erections are a result of achieving a high arousal level too soon or some discomfort factors that shut the valves down prematurely.

Shaking the penis will stimulate blood and tumescence. If you find yourself getting hard in the process, do some scrotum stretching to fend off higher levels of arousal/hardness. You want your vessel in a very swollen/engorged state and pliable.

At 90% erection levels (I assume this member is standing up and is not an engorgement level), you achieve arteriole widening which is important but very little else. At 50% you are able to work at girth enlarging by weakening and conditioning the chambers.

I could not disagree more. I have made almost all my gains doing jelqs with a high erection level. And while what you are saying makes some degree of sense, it is almost impossible to get any meaningful expansion at 50% erection level.

We are having trouble with semantics in this thread. A 50% erection to me would mean you can stand and have your penis at a right angle or near right angle to your body. I believe the ideal circumstances for effective jelqing to be achieved with 100% engorgement or your largest flaccid size (if this is your way of thinking). I do not recommend any pressure or hardness in the shaft (a little never hurt), you should be able to easily bend your penis at mid-shaft almost 90 degrees.

I do exercises with an erection (different degrees of hardness) to work arterioles. But when I concentrate on girth it is with an engorgement level of 100% absent hardness. It goes without saying a cock gets very hard under high erect states (it has to inorder to penetrate a tight hole), but if we engorge it is like a balloon; the balloon can still be grabbed in the middle and then both sides will expand (assuming you have not filled the balloon to rupture thresholds).

I refer to this condition as the “nerf state,” there is full engorgement although it can be squeezed at any area and both sides of the cylinder will almost touch. This is an excellent condition for gains because your vessel is completely full of blood but little hardness is present to interfere with expansion exercises, this state represents most males 5min after ejaculation. In this state the physiology is “loosey goosey” and aggressive expansion and deformation can occur. Shaft and head can be ballooned aggressively because the pressure gradient is absent but the blood is almost completely filling the appendage. Skin and chambers are very flexible and in a receptive state for swelling and inducing a permanent stretched state. You cannot get a larger scrotum by stretching a contracted sack, you have to induce effects that elongate it to the maximum and then apply serious isometric stretches to permanently deform it. The penis is similar in what physilogical state will best augment gains.

This is that “heavy, swollen appearance,” that people want in the shower rooms. One of the principle objectives of PE is to increase your penis’ holding capacity for blood. You start with the contents of a shot glass and with good technique you turn that 2 ouncer into a “Slurpy.” Hang long, hang tough.

I agree we were having trouble with semantics. The reason I wouldn’t call your penis standing at a right angle to your body 50% is because that would assume that your penis points straight up at a 100% erection. I bet there are some members whose max erection angle is at a right angle to their body.

@ Shilow, nice detailed posts you have going there. It might take me a couple of readings before everything registers but Im sure it’s going to be of use. Thanks mate ;)