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Originally Posted by Davey Cockett
Thanks for the advice GlandMaster but I don’t know what you’re talking about. Are you suggesting a psychological reason for my addiction or a physical one? Because a person doesn’t need either to become addicted to something. Any lab rat if given the choice between heroin and food will choose the heroin. If there is a root to my addiction it is called our biochemical nature. Luckily I’ve never even considered using hard drugs, smoking, or alcohol. The only addictions I’ve allowed myself to have are sex, coffee.

Here is the root of the problem: A person has a background level of endorphins being circulated in the brain. Endorphins make you feel good and happy. If, one day, a person trys heroin(or coffee, or running, or amphetamines) then that endorphin level increases temporarily but then comes back down eventually. Now the person knows what it felt like to feel more ‘good’ and his original endorphin level doesn’t meet the quota anymore. This is withdraw.

This is the usual way someone becomes addicted to something.. So how can the root of that addiction be killed? It can’t - because it happened in the past. In order to get over it you’d have to go through quite a bit of time in an ultra-low endorphin level by giving up your poison. And , as stated, I ALLOW myself coffee because it’s not nearly as bad as other things and it gives me energy to boot. I also think we’re all addicted to something. If I find coffee is hindering dick growth then I’ll reconsider because sex is an even better drug.

Any big gainers out there who also drink coffee? Speak up :)

1. No, not everyone is an addict.

2. Why if, everyone has the same brain chemistry, is everyone not an addict?

GM

*ssssshhhhhhhhhhh*

You popped and you’re also wrong.

Caffeine is absolutely a vasoconstrictor, no ‘urban myth’ about it. Now drinking coffee, even a pot of coffee, a day is unlikely to raise your body’s adrenal output to fight or flight levels (the way skydiving will as Glandmaster offered for comparison), but it will affect your circulatory system. Negatively, if your habit is serious enough, and especially if your overall fitness level is low.

Small amounts of caffeine are fine, the body can tolerate them. It’s true there are studies showing benefits to the intake of coffee (I’d hazard a guess this has to do with other aspects of what is found in coffee than the caffeine itself - decaf anyone?), but in moderation.

Green tea or White Tea (less so the more commercially available Black Tea) are also good for you; better in fact as the caffeine level is lower and their antioxidant values are extremely beneficial.

The Coke addict also has the intake of simple sugars to deal with - also bad for you. A Coke once in while … not so bad. If you live on the stuff … not so good. Ask your dentist. Or your waistline.

The psychology and physiology of addiction is a bit more complicated than was described. But caffeine is one of the easier addictions to beat. Easier than nicotine (another even more evil vasoconstrictor), and much easier than heroin. Please. All things are not equal.

High caffeine intake will affect flaccid hang. Don’t believe me? Substitute water for 3 days. See what happens. Is it bad for PE? Hard to say. I can’t imagine it’s good for PE, but it might be inconsequential. Depends on how much you do; if you describe yourself as an addict, maybe cut back?

I advocate of 1 cup of coffee in the morning, with 2 aspirin and a 8 oz. grapefruit juice, just before 20-40 minutes of aerobic exercise. Do this and you won’t need so much caffeine. Promise. And strong heart = strong cock.

Finally, anyone who hits a deer and gets a raging boner is a sick bastard.

The damage to your car alone should be a hard-on killer.

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Mr. Happy

Do you know how nicotine works as a vasoconstrictor ? Does it have long term effects or short term ones ?

Also, I have the feeling that what you are suggesting is that having a good fitness level (which means strong heart as well), will give you good blood circulation and that’s why caffeine won’t have any noticeable effect on it. Am I wrong here ?

1. Yes, everyone is an endorphin addict. Some just more-so than others.

2. Everyone doesn’t have the same brain chemistry, but they are more similar than dissimilar. Everyone needs endorphins and the way that addiction happens is exactly as I explained it above. There is no root that I can pluck to make the addiction tree go away. It would take simple discipline to live a purely ascetic lifestyle and if you’ve been living in an indulgent lifestyle then you can prepare for some serious withdraw and/or depression.

Regardless, I’ll likely drop the caffeine now because it’s an opportune time to. I’m exercising more which seems to be increasing my energy and endorphin levels. I’ll hopefully replace much of the caffeine with exercise. Also, even though I love the speed-high from caffeine it does put your nerves on the edge sometimes. Wish me luck. I’ll start by only doing 1-2 cups a day, then maybe in a few weeks stop it altogether but only if I replace it with tea or something because I’d be missing out on serious antioxidants which coffee is insanely rich in.

Originally Posted by GlandMaster
1. No, not everyone is an addict.

2. Why if, everyone has the same brain chemistry, is everyone not an addict?

GM

I think a good fitness level and good health in general are vital.

The stronger you are, health-wise, the more you can tolerate certainly.

As to long-term effects of nicotine … I don’t have facts and figures at my disposal; I’m not an expert in physiology, but I have done extensive reading. Your body will bounce back. It will bounce back fast or slow depending on how much you’ve been used to, how easily you can effect the change of habit, and how much other issues you might have contribute.

Diet. Metabolism. Mental outlook. Fitness level. These things are all interrelated.

They say if you quit smoking it takes approximately 2 years for your lungs to fully recover, but that most people who are otherwise healthy can get back 99% of their lung function. Sounds good right?

But is that equally true of someone who has been smoking for 30 years? Or someone who has had severe bronchitis chronically, or pnuemonia? My guess is not so much. There are variables. Generally though, the body has a tremendous ability to adapt. That’s in fact what PE is based on.

You go off the cigarettes the physical addition to nicotine leaves your body in three days (the psychological habit is the real bear). After three months or so your lungs begin to clear in earnest.

But, concerning your question, my guess, and it’s a guess, is it’s the time that the nicotine is finally clear of system, when you would no longer find it in your blood if they tested you for it, is when the vasoconstriction would likely end. As to the long lasting after effects - depends on what you’re doing. Did you quit smoking and take up running? Are you eating better? Are you eating more garlic? Are you taking fish oil supplements? L-Arginine? What else is in the mix?

Your body will adapt faster and shed the ill effects sooner depending on the balance of good habits vs. bad habits.

But caffeine is a vasoconstrictor and does dehydrate you. Reason: caffeine stays in your system longer than the water delivering it in the coke or cup of coffee.

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Last edited by Mr. Happy : 08-25-2006 at .

Originally Posted by Davey Cockett
I’d be missing out on serious antioxidants which coffee is insanely rich in.


Defend this.

What antioxidants is coffee rich in exactly?

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I had to add one more message and cheat my way up to a 20 post count :)

Because I think that once you reach 20 you can get an avatar.

Anyway I having reread those articles I just posted about coffee I may cut my cups of coffee to 1-2 cups of caffinated coffee but as many decaffeinated coffee cups as I want. Coffee = Health food

Edit: Bah I was wrong about the post count.

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