I get a blank page, Rizlo.
marinera
Stretching the Tunica
Rizlo
http://books.go ogle.fr/books?i … page&q=&f=false
It’s in french.. and now I think that work.
You can edit my post with the new link
otherwise I’ll searsh the same in english but that will be difficult for me .
tomray
Originally Posted by Rizlo
Collagen can be extended permanently without fracture if it’s heated at 45°celcius and with light stretchs.
Where did you find that?
03/27/2015 BPEL 5.5" former stats BPEL 6.8" Goal BPEL 8.5-9" former stats EG 5.2" EG goal 6"
I'm targetting length for now. Any advice would be appreciated, Thanks!
Walter5169
No idea, I found this
Anything below 60-70 degrees C (threshold of colllagen denaturation) is pretty useless to work on collagen.
Collagen rejuvenates over the course of a month, it would be fun to use 70 C as warm up once every week and see what happens with PE.
kdong
Originally Posted by Walter5169
No idea, I found thisAnything below 60-70 degrees C (threshold of colllagen denaturation) is pretty useless to work on collagen.
Collagen rejuvenates over the course of a month, it would be fun to use 70 C as warm up once every week and see what happens with PE.
Do you realize that 70 C is 158 degrees F?
140 degree water will usually start to raise blisters in 5-10 seconds.
I’m not going anywhere near my dick with 160 degree ANYTHING.
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kdong
That paper describes using RF energy to heat the collagen microscopically, TO CAUSE CONTRACTION, for firming of skin and fascia. This is the opposite of what we want.
It is incorrect to state that lower temps will not work to allow stretching or deformation.
Kdong Starting: 7.1 x 5.125 vol = 14.84 cu. in. Current: 7.1BPEL 5.5 MSEG = 17cu. in. GOAL --> 8.5 x 6.5 vol: 28.6 cu. in.
Took Time off, lost some gains-- Girth cemented
No PE since 2015 -- starting back up
kdong
I just did a Google search and found that at 104 degrees F, a thermal transition in the microstructure of collagen occurs allowing greater plastic deformation. At 103 degrees tendon tissues undergo increased PERMANENT elongation from stretching.
Search temperature collagen deformation.
Kdong Starting: 7.1 x 5.125 vol = 14.84 cu. in. Current: 7.1BPEL 5.5 MSEG = 17cu. in. GOAL --> 8.5 x 6.5 vol: 28.6 cu. in.
Took Time off, lost some gains-- Girth cemented
No PE since 2015 -- starting back up
kdong
Of note in the same book.
Cooling the stretched tissue, WHILE STILL EXTENDED UNDER TENSION, leads to the tissue restabilizing at the stretched length.
So, heat, stretch, hold, then cold to cement gains.
Kdong Starting: 7.1 x 5.125 vol = 14.84 cu. in. Current: 7.1BPEL 5.5 MSEG = 17cu. in. GOAL --> 8.5 x 6.5 vol: 28.6 cu. in.
Took Time off, lost some gains-- Girth cemented
No PE since 2015 -- starting back up
tomray
I have to agree, I’ve done some research too, 104 F greater plastic deformation of collagen. That’s only 40 C , kinda too little if you ask me.
But, there’s a catch, if you warm, stretch and cool, the deformation will be longer, but thinner, I red in some article. So it’s long and thin in the end.
03/27/2015 BPEL 5.5" former stats BPEL 6.8" Goal BPEL 8.5-9" former stats EG 5.2" EG goal 6"
I'm targetting length for now. Any advice would be appreciated, Thanks!
kdong
Originally Posted by tomray
I have to agree, I’ve done some research too, 104 F greater plastic deformation of collagen. That’s only 40 C , kinda too little if you ask me.
But, there’s a catch, if you warm, stretch and cool, the deformation will be longer, but thinner, I red in some article. So it’s long and thin in the end.
Science of Flexibility - Michael J. Alter - Google Cărți
Yes, stretched fibers are longer and thinner, but growth occurs after.
Extenders result in girth increases. This is documented.
Kdong Starting: 7.1 x 5.125 vol = 14.84 cu. in. Current: 7.1BPEL 5.5 MSEG = 17cu. in. GOAL --> 8.5 x 6.5 vol: 28.6 cu. in.
Took Time off, lost some gains-- Girth cemented
No PE since 2015 -- starting back up
tomray
Then, stretching at low forces for how long? Heated at the same time, or only in the beginning?
03/27/2015 BPEL 5.5" former stats BPEL 6.8" Goal BPEL 8.5-9" former stats EG 5.2" EG goal 6"
I'm targetting length for now. Any advice would be appreciated, Thanks!
kdong
Obviously from the results with extenders - the longer the better, and very gentle. Heat throughout.
Cool under TENSION.
Kdong Starting: 7.1 x 5.125 vol = 14.84 cu. in. Current: 7.1BPEL 5.5 MSEG = 17cu. in. GOAL --> 8.5 x 6.5 vol: 28.6 cu. in.
Took Time off, lost some gains-- Girth cemented
No PE since 2015 -- starting back up
tomray
Heat throughout, that’s the problem.
03/27/2015 BPEL 5.5" former stats BPEL 6.8" Goal BPEL 8.5-9" former stats EG 5.2" EG goal 6"
I'm targetting length for now. Any advice would be appreciated, Thanks!
kdong
Originally Posted by tomray
Heat throughout, that’s the problem.
Heat lamp.
Hot tub.
Heating pad.
Radiant space heater.
Hell, if you are adventurous
Insulated MonoTape Heating Tape Element | HTS Amptek | Heating Tape Store
Just kidding about that tape ( 900 C).
But you can buy low temp heating tape, if you look hard enough.
Kdong Starting: 7.1 x 5.125 vol = 14.84 cu. in. Current: 7.1BPEL 5.5 MSEG = 17cu. in. GOAL --> 8.5 x 6.5 vol: 28.6 cu. in.
Took Time off, lost some gains-- Girth cemented
No PE since 2015 -- starting back up
kdong
After a quick search I found flexible tape with an adjustable thermostat 50 degrees to 425.
Kdong Starting: 7.1 x 5.125 vol = 14.84 cu. in. Current: 7.1BPEL 5.5 MSEG = 17cu. in. GOAL --> 8.5 x 6.5 vol: 28.6 cu. in.
Took Time off, lost some gains-- Girth cemented
No PE since 2015 -- starting back up
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