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Can you put the link? Thanks.


03/27/2015 BPEL 5.5" former stats BPEL 6.8" Goal BPEL 8.5-9" former stats EG 5.2" EG goal 6"

I'm targetting length for now. Any advice would be appreciated, Thanks!

Just Google flexible heat tape.


Kdong Starting: 7.1 x 5.125 vol = 14.84 cu. in. Current: 7.1BPEL 5.5 MSEG = 17cu. in. GOAL --> 8.5 x 6.5 vol: 28.6 cu. in.

Took Time off, lost some gains-- Girth cemented

No PE since 2015 -- starting back up

Can the penis be heated long enough safely at that temp to reach the tunica?

Originally Posted by morbidangel
Can the penis be heated long enough safely at that temp to reach the tunica?

????

The tape has a thermostat that goes from 50 F to 425 F

50 F is cold
120 F is a hot but not scalding bath

Don’t turn the knob past 120


Kdong Starting: 7.1 x 5.125 vol = 14.84 cu. in. Current: 7.1BPEL 5.5 MSEG = 17cu. in. GOAL --> 8.5 x 6.5 vol: 28.6 cu. in.

Took Time off, lost some gains-- Girth cemented

No PE since 2015 -- starting back up

Originally Posted by kdong
Of note in the same book.

Cooling the stretched tissue, WHILE STILL EXTENDED UNDER TENSION, leads to the tissue restabilizing at the stretched length.

So, heat, stretch, hold, then cold to cement gains.

I used to submerge in ice water at the end of my clamping sessions (yes I’m serious), and it didn’t result in any permanent gains… but that’s just my experience.

Originally Posted by Mick
I used to submerge in ice water at the end of my clamping sessions (yes I’m serious), and it didn’t result in any permanent gains… but that’s just my experience.

I been recently clamping then going into my bathmate with Ice water as it helps hold that expandand state in the cold.

I linked a study in another thread on a study on how ice was shown to be better than heat for flexibility for hamstrings. It was believe to be cause of increased vasodilation caused by what’s called “the hunting reaction “here is how it could apply to PE.

“vasodilation (or vasodilatation) refers to the widening of blood vessels.[1] It results from relaxation of smooth muscle cells within the vessel walls, in particular in the large veins, large arteries, and smaller arterioles. In essence, the process is the opposite of vasoconstriction, which is the narrowing of blood vessels. . Vasodilation works to decrease TPR and blood pressure through relaxation of smooth muscle cells in the tunica media layer of large arteries and smaller arterioles.[5]”

Relaxation of smooth muscle for those that don’t the short version is how an erection becomes possible. This why it’s important to this.

“When extrementies are exposed to cold, vasoconstriction occurs first to reduce heat loss, resulting in strong cooling . Approximately five to ten minutes after the start of the cold exposure of the hand, the blood vessels in the finger tips will suddenly vasodilate. This is probably caused by a sudden decrease in the release of neurotransmitters from the sympathetic nerves to the muscular coat of the arteriovenous anastomoses due to local cold. The CIVD increases blood flow and subsequently the temperature of the extrementies”

So theory I have is this. The vasoconstriction on the skin causes shrinkage to keep the internal temp warmer. When vasodiolation occurs the tempatures will rise internally as well. So the vasoconstriction is helping to trapping the heat , then when vasodiolation occurs this will cause even more heat and internal tempature to rise, increasing blood flow, and the relaxation of smooth muscle. With the increase of internal temp the smooth muscle, tunica, and other structures should be easier to stretch and expand with ice water pumping, and be beneficial with someone with ED, or recovery from an injury. Though I do this at the end of my workouts.

I postes a larger post about the possible potential of ice water pumping. This is actually a smaller part from a larger posting with more links to other studies about the use of ice and expansion.

Mick, were you in an extended state when submerging the penis?

Originally Posted by Mick
I used to submerge in ice water at the end of my clamping sessions (yes I’m serious), and it didn’t result in any permanent gains… but that’s just my experience.

What do you mean extended state? I believe it was with the clamp still on. It would become really painful and I’m sure it was really dangerous and stupid. Anyway it didn’t work for me but it may for someone else.

What if you would pump with cool water to finish the training like morbidangel said? But not iced water.

I also a pump with gauge would be more recommended since you can keep pressure at around 3-4hg Just to keep the penis both stretched and thick.


Start 30/06/2016 - BPEL 13cm MSEG 11,50cm

Now - BPEL 16,20cm MSEG 12,00cm BPFSL 18,00cm BPELIT 18,00cm Clamped BPEL 17,50cm

DREAM! 19cm BPEL 17cm NBPEL 14cm MSEG

I thing is better make a clamp and immerse the penis in a glass with water and ice to cool the tissue in an expanded state, is that correct?


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Originally Posted by trigger
Great post and links. Now for an attempt at maths, so please correct me if I am wrong.
They talk of failure at 1.6 +/- 0.2 x 10(7) N/m.2. This means failure at approx 1,600,000 kg/metre squared
Take a flaccid tunica circumference of 100mm with a thickness of 1mm. It has a cross section area of 0.0001metre square (0.1x0.001). This means it can handle hanging 160kg (0.0001x1,600,000) before failure. This doesn’t take into account the load taken by the other structures, just the tunica. Bib has hung up to 60lb which is 27kg.
Most plastics have a tensile strength of approx 30,000,000N/m.2 so it is 2 times stronger than the tunica, most steel is about 25 times stronger, at 400Mpa.
Feel free to verify or find fault in my figures.

Great example and comparison. Thanks for the thought!

I think there’s another way to look at this. Either we can try to calculate the volume of our tunica and apply appropriate forces, or we can isolate and stress the tunica and measure deformation. The properties of TFL (tendon, fascia, ligaments) have been very well studied and discussed on Thunders in other threads. We can achieve permanent deformation of the tunica by deforming it into the plastic range, commonly quoted as a strain/elongation of ~4%+

For example, if your non-stressed flaccid length was 6”, you would require ~0.24” of deformation to achieve plastic deformation, assuming an exercise that isolates the tunica


B: ~7.5 x 5.5 MSEG C: 8.25 x 6 MSEG . G: 9 x 6.5 MSEG

Currently developing a unified theory of PE

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Like ligaments, aponeuroses, and tendons, fascia is made up of fibrous connective tissue containing closely packed bundles of collagen fibers oriented in a wavy pattern parallel to the direction of pull. Fascia is consequently flexible and able to resist great unidirectional tension forces until the wavy pattern of fibers has been straightened out by the pulling force. These collagen fibers are produced by fibroblasts located within the fascia.

It s like they re talking about PE, LOL :) ))

Deep fascia is a layer of dense fibrous connective tissue which surrounds individual muscles, and also divide groups of muscles into fascial compartments. This fascia has a high density of elastin fibre that determines its extensibility or resilience.[10] Deep fascia was originally considered to be essentially avascular. However, more recent investigations confirmed a rich presence of thin blood vessels.[11] Deep fascia is also richly supplied with sensory receptors.[12] Examples of deep fascia are fascia lata, fascia cruris, brachial fascia, plantar fascia, thoracolumbar fascia and Buck’s fascia.

I also do an ocasional ice water shower for 5-10 minutes, I love it. But I guess it s just my body type to like it, I don t have a permanent turtling effect from cold water, actually I often saw enlargement from the cold as my testicles came into my body my penis sort of ballooned to a fatter, harder state. It gets harder and remains in an enlarged state afterwards too

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