Pre-Stretching Tunica to allow more Girth Expansion

The case for doing Length work right before doing Girth work in order to gain girth:

Anatomically the tunica is build in a way that is keen on restricting the girth expansion. If it didn’t the penis would be wider then longer(which obviously would prevent procreation).

The tunica has two layers. One longitudinal(length) layer and one circular(girth) layer. Both containing and restricting the Smooth Muscle Cells in the CC which fill with blood to initiate the erection.
The longitudinal layer sits ABOVE the circular layer. THIS IS THE KEY.
Thus when an erection is initiated the circular layer is prevented to further expand by the longitudinal layer.

I think the longitudinal layer reaches its rigidity before the circular is able to.
Many know the effect where it seems that with a 80% flaccid or flushed dick it seems girth is bigger then when erect. This happens cause the circular layer is able to expand more when the restricting longitudinal layer isn’t at erection rigidity.

This is why Jelqing for girth is not recommended at 100% erection level. At 80% one can create more expansion with jelqs then a 100% erection level.
This out and inner layer concept is also evident with the Corpus Spongosium at the underside. It can expand quiet easy cause it misses the longitudinal layer restriction.

So to allow the circular layer to expand more we stretch the longitudinal layer before.
This means doing length work right before girth work.

Depending on where one stands in his PE journey the use of exercise, technique and intensity will differ.

The User Big Girtha who had a 2 inch girth gain jad most of his girth gains when he did hanging combined with clamping and horse squeezes between the sets. This is quiet intense and he had to deal with injuries(!). I recommend a much scaled down routine if one would apply this theory. In a sense the newbie routine with stretches and jelqs does apply this principle already.

The basic concept would be to prestretch the longitudinal length layer of the tunica before girth work.
Doing this could be achieved with manual stretches, extending/ADS and Hanging. Heat/warming up will help too.

Then right after that targeting the circular girth layer of the tunica.
Like with jelqs, pumping, squeezes, Uli’s, bends, compressors and clamping.

I recommend girth exercises right after the length exercises.
If one doesn’t go beyond the elastic properties of the length layer it will recoil back to square one after time.
I’m not sure if staying within that elastic range(compared to going into plastic/micro tear range) in the length layer will be enough to allow more Girth expansion. This needs testing and observing of PI ‘s and measurements.

I myself will try to do some low-weight hanging right before my girth routine and check if the girth expansion will be bigger.

Yep, nice one. As well, recalling a thread on this years ago, apparently the 2-layer arrangement yet some have 3 layers (thus potentially those finding getting big growth from PE most challenging) whilst some only have one layer (and thus get relatively huge growth from PE).

So as well, said protocol suggested here may well be *especially key* for those with 3 layers~

Thank you :) Great summary of a very important principle! Totally is in line with what I have been observing. I started working along this principle just a couple weeks ago. I’m excited to see if it will produce the girth gain I have been waiting for for quite some time, now.

I’ve heard different tidbits on why do length before girth and personally have never stressed doing either first but you make an excellent case as to why do length before girth…and in the same session.

I’m not sure I can but I will try to use this in my future workouts and see how it works.

I’ll try it, should you gain more length as well and how long should u wait after hanging and how much weight should in sets?Just trying to figure out he intensity of the routine.

Hmm… It does make sense. I have made some girth gains recently, some of which seemed to coincide with mild use of BB and SS stretches, though there are too many variables at play to make an actual statement. Yesterday I stretched for a few minutes before going into the clamp and today I’m especially sore, also I did hit a new maximum girth measurement. Coincidence, evidence or progress? Either way signs don’t contradict the statements, so I’d give it a plausible go. Maybe I’ll add a stretching session before girth work in future ‘on’ periods and see if there’s an improvement of gaining speed. Thanks for taking the effort to cast another theory into the ring! :)

It would probably depend on how intense the length exercise is.
If the length exercise is stretching the longitudinal tunica into the plastic range then its possible to gain length. If it stays within the elastic range maybe not.
Reaching the plastic range can happen if you stretch either for a very long time(extending) or through intense stretching/hanging.

As said in post #2(!) it is advised to do the girth exercise right after the length exercise, especially if one stays only within the elastic range cause otherwise the longitudinal layer will recoil back after time.

The intensity you need depends totally on your own state in your PE career. A newbie needs maybe only 10x 30second stretches while a veteran might need 5 hanging sets. Start as low as possible and intensify depending on you PI ‘s.

Great informative article.. Thanks a lot .:) )

The reason I was asking is that my pumping tube is set up for length ,not so much for girth.Is this a more girth routine or length,or both,just try to understand a little bit better thanks

Good idea which always had me curious, I remember it was discussed here Girthier at lower erection level and monty always talked about wantsmore’s fulcrum stretches giving excellent expansion if followed by clamping. Bundled stretches seem to work well, and as marinera’s intense routine suggested, I think the more we can work on girth with a flaccider-er penis the better, as as dicker said there will be no limits to the girth expansion. Anyone who does semi erect bends and compression can see this, they ruin my EQ too much though.

b balls, Its a theory on how to maximize girth expansion to achieve girth gains. So more for girth. If you want to gain length this theory doesn’t help you much I assume.
It still could lead to length gains but that is not the intent.

The idea is:
->Weakening the “longitudinal/LENGTH-layer”, to allow the “circular/GIRTH-layer” to expand easier.
The “longitudinal/LENGTH-layer” sits above the “circular/GIRTH-layer”, preventing the “circular/GIRTH-layer” from expanding.(refer to picture to understand whats going on)

I think for targeting the “longitudinal/LENGTH-layer”, flaccid stretching is better suited.
Its possible that the girth-layer prevents the length-layer from stretching when being expanded in the tube like in any erection.
Not sure if a narrow cyclinder set up for length would change that considerably. This would be a theme for another thread.

To achieve length stretching/hanging and ADS/extending are the way to go cause they directly effect the longitudinal-length-layer. Pumping with a length focused set up might still be a good idea.

Come to think of it, I always do my lightweight stretching routine before ANY work. Including my most recent IPR work. So…I agree wholeheartedly.

Just had to revisit my log entries

Good one lol, look at the idiot with bad memory in post #2 from your link ;) . Everything was already mentioned in PE and sometimes by yourself.

"Wantsmore’s Fulcrums stretches, A and V stretches, bundled stretches. Stretches which hit directly on the tunica."
Is what you mentioned in the thread working especially well for stretching the tunica.

Inflicting girth expansion via flaccid exercise sounds intriguing but kind of hard to do isn’t it?

Not caring about the longitudinal layer will possibly still reap gains, even with higher % girth exercises, as the longitudinal-layer will still stretch along with the expansion from below. My idea is just that with it being weakened it might increase chances of more girth gains.

Same here. I always start with stretching which in my case is 32 minutes of stretching.

I also assumed, similar to other workouts, that it would seriously reduce the possibility of any injuries.

Thanks for the article dickerschwanz.